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Honkai: Star Rail Discussion Thread

this vs boothill and rappa = zulo bcs bro got jumped by bugs and rangers
also i remember aeons upscaling from durandal. LS
Every time Aeons upscaling from HI3 stuff was mentioned on vs wiki it was hilarious cause none of it would ever have scans
Just assumptions and vibes

and why hand that Zulo stuff been nuked it it was literally said the rangers assassinated him
Not fought head on.
 
more of an internal verse situation but "highest degree of HE" should also go at most like herrscher of LR level
 
Every time Aeons upscaling from HI3 stuff was mentioned on vs wiki it was hilarious cause none of it would ever have scans
Just assumptions and vibes

and why hand that Zulo stuff been nuked it it was literally said the rangers assassinated him
Not fought head on.
i did nuke zulo chainnscaling but no one bothered to remove it bcs i wasnt able to
 
Aigh, finished removing all the CM. Now I believe it’s time to eviscerate all the hax. If ya’ll got any blatant wank you think I’m not aware of, link it here
High level Honkai energy for Cocolia + Chrysos heirs (eg Phainon). They are given this rating purely for having Honkai in their body or being able to control it, which B rank Valkyries can even do. They don’t even show off Honkai manipulation on par with pre X-10 experiment Bronya during the Azure waters manga. nuke it. Make them low level with baseline HE resistance.

HDE 12D for Aeons via imaginary singularity, you know where it is, don’t even link it.

Remove highest degree HE from Nanook and Xipe. Without a very direct comparison from a reliable source we can’t compare them to the cocoon of finality. Give them Herrscher HE. For Nanook Lord Ravager level + Herrscher.
 
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High level Honkai energy for Cocolia + Chrysos heirs (eg Phainon). They are given this rating purely for having Honkai in their body or being able to control it, which B rank Valkyries can even do. They don’t even show off Honkai manipulation on par with pre X-10 experiment Bronya during the Azure waters manga. nuke it. Make them low level with baseline HE resistance.

HDE 12D via imaginary singularity, you know where it is, don’t even link it.

Remove highest degree HE from Nanook and Xipe. Without a very direct comparison from a reliable source we can’t compare them to the cocoon of finality. Give them Herrscher HE. For Nanook Lord Ravager level + Herrscher.
Stellaron being high level is okay considering it can ravage entire planets with relative ease, and someone like cocolia could infuse with it and have a good control over it so idt it should be low level.
Heirs is a different case but titans have several island to planet level feat so i also doubt their HE output will be low level
And same practically goes for lord ravagers considering we alr have zephyro and welt fight etc… i say this since i personally added HE to hsr
as for aeons the highest level is actually because they have entire control over the path and would have same thing with their HE
 
Stellaron being high level is okay considering it can ravage entire planets with relative ease, and someone like cocolia could infuse with it and have a good control over it so idt it should be low level.
Heirs is a different case but titans have several island to planet level feat so i also doubt their HE output will be low level
And same practically goes for lord ravagers considering we alr have zephyro and welt fight etc… i say this since i personally added HE to hsr
as for aeons the highest level is actually because they have entire control over the path and would have same thing with their HE
i dont fully understand why destruction feats = level of HE but eh i guess its fair but heirs nono give them low. aeons shouldnt have highest degree thats exclusive to the cocoon. also why do LRs have 6 layers?
 
I need the Absolute Nothingness scans on here: Honkai Impact 3rd, Story Chapter XXVIII: Beyond Will

I assume its js Imaginary Space being empty and the like, not that it literally does not exist.
 
Bro. A lot of this stuff has no scans. How am I gonna downgrade it if the mods dont see the points of contention
that’s so cooked

Stellaron being high level is okay considering it can ravage entire planets with relative ease, and someone like cocolia could infuse with it and have a good control over it so idt it should be low level.
Heirs is a different case but titans have several island to planet level feat so i also doubt their HE output will be low level
And same practically goes for lord ravagers considering we alr have zephyro and welt fight etc… i say this since i personally added HE to hsr
as for aeons the highest level is actually because they have entire control over the path and would have same thing with their HE
Thing is that Wendy’s got Herrscher Physiology and struggled vs low level b rankers
Kevin without Shamash (High level) is stronger than Welt (Herrscher)
Are Honkai energy levels not measures of proficiency or skill rather than raw power?

I’m open to Ravagers explicitly getting labeled as Herrscher level with 4 Layers of HE but someone pointed out how lower level Honkai users can beat higher ones (MANTIS vs Herrschers)
So just pure destructive output I’m not sure should be enough to say “yeah Cocolia manipulates HE as well as Bronya who’s Honkai adaptability was praised by Welt or Kevin who has Honkai beast DNA”
 
bruh i just realized the scan for aeons being in imaginary space doesnt even say they are apart of imaginary space just the element 😭
 
that’s so cooked


Thing is that Wendy’s got Herrscher Physiology and struggled vs low level b rankers
Kevin without Shamash (High level) is stronger than Welt (Herrscher)
Are Honkai energy levels not measures of proficiency or skill rather than raw power?
I dont think thats elaborated on the page, but what i know is that everyone with high level or above just scales this high (ignore base bronya and mei they should have low level)
I’m open to Ravagers explicitly getting labeled as Herrscher level with 4 Layers of HE but someone pointed out how lower level Honkai users can beat higher ones (MANTIS vs Herrschers)
They are but its just called Lord ravager level instead
So just pure destructive output I’m not sure should be enough to say “yeah Cocolia manipulates HE as well as Bronya who’s Honkai adaptability was praised by Welt or Kevin who has Honkai beast DNA”
Well stellaron is HE and it is that destructive and hard to control so its generally fine, as far as i know firefly could only temporaliry control stellaron in her body in 3.8 while cocolia didnt have that problem and only died from that after getting defeated
 
I dont think thats elaborated on the page, but what i know is that everyone with high level or above just scales this high (ignore base bronya and mei they should have low level)
Well they def don’t cause Wendy exists
If yes way more should be added to say why being a certain level of strength should mean high level by default.
They are but its just called Lord ravager level instead
Ravagers are just 4 layers? Why are people running around saying even Chrysos heirs got 6😭

Well stellaron is HE and it is that destructive and hard to control so its generally fine, as far as i know firefly could only temporaliry control stellaron in her body in 3.8 while cocolia didnt have that problem and only died from that after getting defeated
Tbf this interaction could’ve also happened between someone with no Honkai resistance vs low level Honkai resistance as FF doesn’t have Honkai resistance on her profile. The Gem of Serenity is also pretty dangerous to those who try to wield its power + destructive back in Moon Shadow and it’s only 2 layers and resisted by base Kiana.
 
I dont think thats elaborated on the page, but what i know is that everyone with high level or above just scales this high (ignore base bronya and mei they should have low level)

They are but its just called Lord ravager level instead
Cas said you made them 6 layers
Well stellaron is HE and it is that destructive and hard to control so its generally fine, as far as i know firefly could only temporaliry control stellaron in her body in 3.8 while cocolia didnt have that problem and only died from that after getting defeated
Im fine with stellaron being high level but coreflames nuh uh i dont think having nanook’s blood is enough for default high level
 
Cas said you made them 6 layers
Honestly for the HSR characters with Honkai since the Honkai layers blog didn’t mention them should just have their layers listed next to their level

Edit.
Like for Zephyro
Honkai Energy (Lord Ravager - 4 Layers; Slop about matching then eventually overpowering star of Eden with his white hole)
 
Well they def don’t cause Wendy exists
If yes way more should be added to say why being a certain level of strength should mean high level by default.
well being low level HE while you are ravaging planets (stellaron) is just weird bcs herrscher honkai energy is just weird like sry for vibescaling but its my opinion
Ravagers are just 4 layers? Why are people running around saying even Chrysos heirs got 6😭
Idk man…beats me
Tbf this interaction could’ve also happened between someone with no Honkai resistance vs low level Honkai resistance as FF doesn’t have Honkai resistance on her profile. The Gem of Serenity is also pretty dangerous to those who try to wield its power + destructive back in Moon Shadow and it’s only 2 layers and resisted by base Kiana.
Kiana is just HER + she has void core in her already (is it haste or serenity idk)
 
well being low level HE while you are ravaging planets (stellaron) is just weird bcs herrscher honkai energy is just weird like sry for vibescaling but its my opinion
Fair, even though I respectfully disagree. I’m a bigger fan of going for the lowest reasonable option in the event explicit feats are minimal like this since this is sadly just vibes as you said.

Idk man…beats me
Yeah my suggestion to slap layers on HSR characters profiles above would def help quell misinformation like that then
Kiana is just HER + she has void core in her already (is it haste or serenity idk
Kiana was low level during Moon Shadow tbf her proficiency and layers climb throughout the part 1 story despite technically already being the HoV.
sure but point out their scalings in summary too
Ok cool, cause yeah it’s cringe having Elysia’s profile say she’s slightly weaker than Kevin then a beyond infinite gap is between them LS wise
 
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