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Dude that was a painfully, absurdly obvious hyperbole wtf are you talkingAnd tell me where I said that Jedi see 10 hours into the future or anything like that?
They don't. Otherwise Anakin wouldn't get sliced, Maul wouldn't get sliced, Windu wouldn't get stabbed, Palpatine wouldn't get thrown, and Snoke wouldn't get sliced.They see recent time, maybe a few seconds at a time,
Literally all of these and likely more core main story plot points would be impossible if they constantly saw few seconds into the future.
I genuinely find it unbelievable that you didn't catch that as a hyperbole. Like I'm actually flabbergasted.I never said hours. Even within the examples I showed, they don't give examples of hours in the future.
It literally is. The main story that everyone is familiar with and that has actual mainstream relevance, which dictates and shows the core main story which everything else centers around are the movies.It's not a secondary source.
Everything else are side stories with little to no relevance to the overarching narrative.
I'm again not saying they're less canon or anything but both their relevance to the narrative and their general quality are unfathomably lower.
That doesn't mean everything has equal relevance or quality and consistency. If you're going to sit here and tell me that Glup Shytto having a dinner with Poobert Fartimer in a novel 99% of SW watchers don't even know exists is equally relevant to how Anakin became Darth Vader or how Luke became a jedi and defeated the sith them I'm going to call you a liar. Both lying to me and yourself.You really don't understand that in Star Wars all media have exactly the same narrative importance? None has more weight than the others. Half of Star Wars is made up of novels.
That's why you can't give me any feats for the precog from the movies and have to resort to inconsistent outliers from some randomass novel. Because these inconsistent outliers don't exist in the actual main story because the main story is actually trying to sustain some level of consistency and quality.
This is like asking me for any source that shows 2+2=4. The very definition of "secondary" is "less important" so the novel is by definition a secondary source.Give me a single source that shows novels are treated as a secondary source, or stop making up nonsense out of your own head.
You don't need a source for this, these are facts by definition.
Again this isn't some law this is literally just a thing of definitions and logic. A billion dollar movie that 99% of people are going to base their opinion of the series on is going to have a much higher production quality than a random novel some fat dude made in his basement that only 0.0001% of SW fans will ever read."any secondary source is very susceptible to contradictions because it's written by different authors"
Star Wars isn't a manga where a single author writes the script. Every media—whether it's movies, TV series, video games, etc.—has different teams and screenwriters. Even the movies and the original trilogy were all made by different directors and screenwriters. The argument you're using only applies to manga. Show me a single source on VSBattle where this applies to media other than manga.
You're literally proving this by the fact that this extremely inconsistent and contradictory level of precog you're trying to argue for Obi-Wan exists ONLY in a novel like this.
Idk what to tell you about that man. About what you'd expect from someone who thinks Big Chungus having a one night stand with Booby Fett in a novel nobody has ever read is equally important to Anakin killing Padme.
Define "secondary".That's not true.
Yeah ik, I literally pointed that out.Different works and different characters?
I called them "12" and "prepubescent". That's not teenagers.Why are you citing them being teenagers as an argument?
And I think it's pretty obvious why I pointed it out. Because it highlights how inexperienced and immature they are. Yk, things directly related to how cowardly you are or how strong your willpower is?
No that's not what I said. It's literally the opposite of what I said somehow."If even teenagers can resist, Obi-Wan should resist."
So you mean Obi-Wan should resist anything they resist? That doesn't even make sense.
I said even kids who are NOT even teenagers yet DON'T resist it but can overcome it because their mind/willpower is strong.
That's not even remotely related to what I said. Being written by 50 dudes instead of 1 dude doesn't mean your story is magically allowed inconsistencies.Because Naruto is a manga, belonging to a single individual, the author, in this case Kishimoto. When copyright belongs to a single individual, anything not written by him is secondary, because he is not the owner of the work.
Fun fact 2: Naruto franchise belongs to Shueisha not Kishimoto. While Kishimoto does often oversee basically everything we consider canon, Boruto was primarily written by 2 different people and the novels are primarily written by multiple different authors too.But this does not apply when works belong to a company itself. When that is the case, everything produced by the company for the franchise is primary source.
Fun fact 3: Kishimoto directly oversaw the movies creation. He was directly noted as the executive producer and stated in an interview that he directly wrote the script for it. Still we only got tertiary canon for its novelization that was directly published by the publishing right owner ShueishaYou mentioned that this novel is considered tertiary canon, right? Let's take a look at what the wiki classifies as tertiary canon.
And Naruto is owned by Shueisha. Isn't that funnyThis doesn't exist for Star Wars because there is no longer "The author of Star Wars," since the IP itself belonged to a company. And everything is produced by companies that Disney owns or oversees. Nothing is unsupervised.