Overwatch General Discussion Thread

[DaReaperMan]

Neat. I dont recall asking for your opinion on the matter.

Same thing I can say for you trying to start a debate with me, pal. But see you in 2030 when you actually do something with Overwatch, okay?

 

[Mbpoops]

Dude when tf are they gonna fix Anran's face model?

Shes so fine with the new face

 

[Emerald]

aight are there any feats that need to be calced for the verse?

 

[DaReaperMan]

aight are there any feats that need to be calced for the verse?

Everything for the past like 3 years from short stories to comics to cinematic shorts

 

[WeeklyBattles]

aight are there any feats that need to be calced for the verse?

Dozens

 

[Mbpoops]

We are taking perks into account for abilities and whatnot right?

 

[DaReaperMan]

We are taking perks into account for abilities and whatnot right?

They're like... iffy, but I wouldn't see why not.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

We are taking perks into account for abilities and whatnot right?

Yes, theyre canon

 

[Emerald]

Aight, I'mma try to calc some feats. If anyone has some suggestions, i could take a look

 

[ShockingPsychic]

Aight, I'mma try to calc some feats. If anyone has some

Give me like 20 mins

While I'm working on compiling those, Wuyang and Anran one-shot Null Sector omnics. Is that enough for 8-C?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Aight, I'mma try to calc some feats. If anyone has some suggestions, i could take a look

Torbjorn's artillery having power comparable to a volcanic eruption

Illari incinerating half a city and making miniature suns

The GBE of Sigma and Zarya's black holes

Genji deflecting illari's solar rifle

 

[DaReaperMan]

By the way who does Illiari fight in lore?

 

[Emerald]

When does Illari incinerate a city and makes mini suns?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

When does Illari incinerate a city

In her backstory video

and makes mini suns?

Its her ult

 

[WeeklyBattles]

By the way who does Illiari fight in lore?

iirc she had a brief fight with Soldier

 

[Mbpoops]

poke slop fighting poke slop

 

[ShockingPsychic]

• Wuyang makes a big wave
• Vendetta cleaves through a big robot
• Illari nukes a city

 

[DaReaperMan]

iirc she had a brief fight with Soldier

Okay yeah if that turns out true then one of my contentions with tier 7 is gone

 

[ShockingPsychic]

I do wanna raise that Illari's big feat of nuking the city was, presumably, when she was going all out in a controlled (even if it wasn't controlled enough, obviously...) environment. Part of her character is never wanting to cause that much destruction again, so I doubt she's unleashing her full power during other circumstances

 

[Emerald]

Illari nukes a city

Eh I doubt it was a city. The Origin Story shows the explosion taking out the ceremony room and nothing beyond that, and the Overwatch Website says the blast destroyed the entire chamber. We also see that the Inti Warrior's city is alright and well functioning in the short and illustrations. They also describe the destruction caused as just being the building/pyramid being in ruins, and Runasapi (the city itself) is still intact. The feat is probably High 8-C to 8-B tho
also its very much implied the blast that killed the Inti Warriors was caused by the same group that did the explosion on Overwatch HQ, the Conspiracy, and even Illari believes that normally an explosion caused by solar threading wouldnt happen and it was very much planned out to take out the remaining inti warriors but its a bit sus cause she still was the epicenter of the blast

 

[Emerald]

Checking some stuff out and discovered that Runasapi has the solar threading device and the building that got destroyed, will try to check out the measurements of the building on Blender

 

[Emerald]

Wuyang makes a big wave

Also Anran seemingly vaping the wave

 

[Emerald]

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:EmeraldBR/Overwatch:_Last_Child_of_The_Sun

 

[WeeklyBattles]

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:EmeraldBR/Overwatch:_Last_Child_of_The_Sun

Nice! Would this also include Illari's mini sun creation?

 

[Emerald]

Nice! Would this also include Illari's mini sun creation?

Idk, I can try to calc the sun's creation on a later day but I have my doubts if it scale to her ult or not. Since the explosion that happened in the story is treated as something related to the same explosion that destroyed Overwatch HQ and that the Conspiracy was likely behind that, so this whole thing is a bit shady rn

 

[Emerald]

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:EmeraldBR/Overwatch:_Last_Child_of_The_Sun

redid the calculation after receiving feedback from some CGM, went from 8-B to 8-A to 8-C to 8-B
Sent the calc to be evaluated btw

 

[WeeklyBattles]

redid the calculation after receiving feedback from some CGM, went from 8-B to 8-A to 8-C to 8-B
Sent the calc to be evaluated btw

Meh, still a bit feat compared to the rest of the stuff in the verse but not bad

 

[Emerald]

Hmm wonder if you can use Sojourn’s railgun to calc Genji’s speed?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Hmm wonder if you can use Sojourn’s railgun to calc Genji’s speed?

Illari's rifle would be better seeing as it's natural sunlight

 

[DaReaperMan]

Illari's rifle would be better seeing as it's natural sunlight

Gonna just step in to say that "Sunlight" or "Sun's rays" have other interpretations that aren't SoL

 

[Emerald]

Illari's gun is actually solar energy, much like the rest of her abilities

 

[Emerald]

also the fact most characters use weapons like revolvers, rifles, machine guns, rocket launchers, shotguns and they can get tagged would make them somewhere close to FTL to FTL+ would be very weird

 

[XXBenShapiroXx]

Can we even calc Zarya's ult and by extension Genji being able to deflect it

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Illari's gun is actually solar energy, much like the rest of her abilities

Yes, sunlight

 

[TheGatememer]

also the fact most characters use weapons like revolvers, rifles, machine guns, rocket launchers, shotguns and they can get tagged would make them somewhere close to FTL to FTL+ would be very weird

Meh, that just means that said weapons scale to FTL speeds. Assuming of course, the FTL feats in question are legit, and there are no scaling issues otherwise

 

[XXBenShapiroXx]

Meh, that just means that said weapons scale to FTL speeds. Assuming of course, the FTL feats in question are legit, and there are no scaling issues otherwise

Genji throwing shurikens at FTL speeds, Genji upscale, let's go

 

[WeeklyBattles]

also the fact most characters use weapons like revolvers, rifles, machine guns, rocket launchers, shotguns and they can get tagged would make them somewhere close to FTL to FTL+ would be very weird

That wouldnt be weird at all, we have tons of verses on this site that are FTL despite using a lot of normal guns, overwatch is no different

 

[Emerald]

redid the calculation after receiving feedback from some CGM, went from 8-B to 8-A to 8-C to 8-B
Sent the calc to be evaluated btw

High 8-C end got accepted

 

[Emerald]

Let's see if Illari's Solar Rifle matches the requirements for speed of light:

• The beam behaves in a reasonably realistic way, such as reflecting off non-magical mirrors or refracting and diffusing through liquids and materials.
• The beam is stated to move at the speed of light by reliable sources.
• The beam is stated to be composed/consisting of photons or light itself, again by reliable sources.
• The beam originates from a real source of light, such as the Sun or the flash of a camera.
  • Note that a beam does not automatically qualify for this requirement just by originating from a technological source.

• The beams were never shown reflecting off any materials.
• The beams are never stated to move at the speed of light
• The beams is stated to utilize solar energy, which is light and heat.
  • It should be noted that Illari can turn solar energy into electricity/sparks.
• The beam originates from solar energy

And now what criterias disqualify it for it being SoL

• The beam is shown to move at different speeds in the same material.
• The beam curves through the air or otherwise doesn't travel in straight lines (with the exception of realistic refraction or deflection).
• The beam primarily deals damage by means other than heating materials that absorb it.
  • A laser may cause explosions, but only if it rapidly vaporizes some matter, meaning that the target needs to be partially destroyed in the process.
• The beam is tangible and can be interacted with physically by normal humans, as if it was a solid, liquid or gas. It shouldn't disperse when being hit as a substance would, and should not be redirectable without using a mechanism like refraction.
  • While a laser can in theory push things, through radiation pressure or by causing explosions when vaporizing part of an object, those are niche circumstances and generally a laser should not primarily push things away like a physical projectile would.

• AFAIK it doesnt show a different speed
• The beam moves in a straight line every time
• The beam deals damage through the usage of solar energy which does the following:
  • Explodes an Omnic, breaking apart its armor.
  • A massive explosion that fragmented a massive stone wall.
  • Her Outburst shows force and can push her and others away.
  • Her Ult shoots a an explosive ball of solar energy that attaches to the target, slowing them down and detonates after taking a lot of damage
• The beam can be blocked by characters like Genji and the energy can push things away

 

[Emerald]

Can we even calc Zarya's ult and by extension Genji being able to deflect it

It would be something like 5-B just due to size alone. But other than that her black hole doesnt match the requirements to be a real black hole