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Many LS calcs should be usable for characters. Like Toshiro's Class T via Weather Manip as thats also done via pure Reiatsu, and thats all the way back at Soul Society Arc.
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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion
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Yeah, i was working on that as well. Yamamoto compressing his explosion back in the arrancar arc should also be an LS feat imo. Since he did with his physicals and not his zanpakuto.
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It's able to burn Yhwach who is resistant to Yamamoto's ZnT, which scales to FB Bankai.
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Yo guys, i have a question.
Is the darkness Soul King Yhwach uses the power of weakened Adnyeus or is it just his own power?
Is the darkness Soul King Yhwach uses the power of weakened Adnyeus or is it just his own power?
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It's reio's a cutt in half near death reio's power
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Would that reio still be above squad 0 characters or below them in power?
I was wondering because of Jugram ,who was shown to be able to use the darkness ,when switching The Balance with The Almighty.
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Yea way above S0 Jugram also has scaling to uryu which should also put him above S0
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Acasuality for Bleach Gods
The eternal primordial sea was a realm with no life and death. The casuality in this world prevented people and matter from being destroyed. Essential anything damaged will simply revert to it's original state. Even abilites didn't work. For example hikone tried to control hisagi's nerves to...
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Yeah i think one could use that as an argument for Jugram being above squad 0 + he also said that The Balance is more suited for battle than The Almighty so one could argue that he‘s even stronger without the darkness tbh.
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Aizen goes to court
This is Aizen on the trial of Chapter 423 (as seen in the image) Culling Game Arc Higuruma is used Higurama is aware of Soul Society's legal system Deadly Sentencing is already activated Aizen needs a not guilty verdict to win and can't plead guilty LET THE TRIAL COMMENCE!! Aizen: Higuruma: Tie:
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Chad vs Chopper | [0-0-0]
Speed equalized TYBW chad is used Egghead chopper is used Chopper starts with monster point Both start 40 meters away from each other Fight takes place in the human world A Bum: Luffy's last resort for food: Incon:
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That was True Shikai Ichigo powered up to the max as noted by SK Yhwach. Him using his reiatsu to the max in TS doesn’t mean Uryu or Renji scale since he never raised his reiatsu that high against Uryu.
Honestly, TS Ichigo should get a varies tier, it’s pretty obvious he tries harder against some opponents(Yhwach) than he does against others(Uryu)
It’d make much more sense if you plan on calcing the LS feat of Ichigo holding the weight of the 3 realms during the Irazusando test. The fact he could barely walk and almost exploded means it took almost everything out of him to do it. I.e his max reiatsu he showed against SK Yhwach. Uryu clashing with a holding back Ichigo doesn’t scale him to Ichigo’s highest output
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@Specterxxxx speaking of class Z, has there been any update for the LS feat you made for Kenpachi?
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Ehh, til Cour 4 comes out, we need more information to do something like this. The manga isn't clear enough.
Ohh, I don't think anyone scales aside God tiers as well and that would immeasurable LS, I don't need to calc it.
Let's see what Cour 4 holds for us.
Not yet, I am not really focused on LS for now tho, I plan on recalcing the kido oh yield calc but I am still working on the pixel scaling certain things for now. There are multiple LS feats to evaluate, Toshiro and Yama have their own LS feat i need to calc.
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boopAizen goes to court
This is Aizen on the trial of Chapter 423 (as seen in the image) Culling Game Arc Higuruma is used Higurama is aware of Soul Society's legal system Deadly Sentencing is already activated Aizen needs a not guilty verdict to win and can't plead guilty LET THE TRIAL COMMENCE!! Aizen: Higuruma: Tie:vsbattles.com
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I feel like the Yhwach lifting Wandenreich could maybe be recalced with the anime. But that's prob just me.
I mean… Uryu is not going to fight Ichigo at all… so…
And only Horn of Salvation/Blut Arterie Ichigo would scale.
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Hi, yes. I don't generally keep up with Bleach much, but 2 questions (It's not important, it's just out of personal curiousity for unrelated reasons.):
What calculated feat begins the basis for the scaling chain that puts Base Yhwach being at Small Planet Level?
What are the components of said scaling chain that lead to Base Yhwach at Small Planet Level?
What calculated feat begins the basis for the scaling chain that puts Base Yhwach being at Small Planet Level?
What are the components of said scaling chain that lead to Base Yhwach at Small Planet Level?
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Verse page, calculations, AP/durability statistics. Info is there.
iirc Post-Bankai Training Shikai Ichigo<(2x)Post-Bankai Training Bankai Ichigo<(5x)Post-Vizard Training Hollow Mask Ichigo<Base Arrancar Arc Grimmjow<(10x)Grimmjow's Gran Ray Cero<Final Grimmjow Fight Hollow Mask Ichigo<Base Ulquiorra<(10x) Ulquiorra's Res<(10x)Segunda Ulquiorra<(10x)Segunda Ulquiorra strongest attacks
Segunda Ulquiorra's strongest attacks=<Max Res Yammy
Regular Res Yammy= half of Max Res Yammy
Half power Post-Res Bankai Ichigo= Regular Res Yammy's AP
Half power Post-Res Bankai Ichigo<(2x)Full power Post-Res Bankai Ichigo<(10x)Post-Res Hollow Mask Ichigo
Post-Res Hollow Mask Ichigo<Fullbring Shikai Ichigo=Vol Quilge<(10x)Vol Quilge using Blut<TYBW Ayon
Vol Quilge absorbs Ayon and gains his power, which for statistical purpose is basically Vol Quilge+Vol Quilge's Blut or Vol Quilgex11
Vol Quilge x 11<Fullbring Bankai Ichigo<Base Base Yhwach<(10x)Base Base Yhwach's Blut
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True shikai Ichigo and Orihime with shun rikka were able withstand the clash of yhwach's reaistu before any powerup happened. By the end of cour 4, The God tier LS would most likely be immeasurable so I don't think there is a point in calcing yhwach's LS but I might do re do it.
Btw, Calc experts what do yall use for pixel scaling especially for mobile tho I do have a pc i would prefer a mobile option that would make things easier for me but I am willing to use pc alternatives if need be
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Problem is Yhwach was completely toying them
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Doesn't really mean anything, they might not scale to Yhwach but they scale to yhwach's casual reaistu, And ichigo, reio and basically every reio candidate is the source of the immeasurable scaling not just Yhwach.
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this isn’t me trying to argue it or anything, but can someone fill me in on why we don’t use timeline scaling like what’s been used for Dragon Ball for Bleach?
We know that the three realms are separate space-times and are specifically shown to have separate time axes, and Yhwach was going to destroy the three realms which should include their time axes as well considering he intended to return existence to it’s primordial state which should predate the time axes of the individual realms considering they didn’t exist yet
If someone could explain to me the difference between this and something like Goku destroying a space-time, that’d be great
We know that the three realms are separate space-times and are specifically shown to have separate time axes, and Yhwach was going to destroy the three realms which should include their time axes as well considering he intended to return existence to it’s primordial state which should predate the time axes of the individual realms considering they didn’t exist yet
If someone could explain to me the difference between this and something like Goku destroying a space-time, that’d be great
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We can but waiting for cour 4 to end first.
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Any Cosmology Upgrade will be done after Cour 4. The anime adaptation of the tybw arc has a bunch of anime only content, which gave us quite alot of new information.
Cour 4 will have like 5 episodes worth of anime only content so the chances that we get more information on the cosmology or better feats is pretty high.
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Naruto Uzumaki Vs Sosuke Aizen
Random encounter. Both combatants start 60 meters apart. Fights must end in death, KO, or incapacitation. Highest Interpretation Fights take place on Soul Society
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Brain damageNaruto Uzumaki Vs Sosuke Aizen
Random encounter. Both combatants start 60 meters apart. Fights must end in death, KO, or incapacitation. Highest Interpretation Fights take place on Soul Society
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Spacebattles momentNaruto Uzumaki Vs Sosuke Aizen
Random encounter. Both combatants start 60 meters apart. Fights must end in death, KO, or incapacitation. Highest Interpretation Fights take place on Soul Society
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don't bring spacebattle shit here people there are ******** and have a high level of intellectual arroganceNaruto Uzumaki Vs Sosuke Aizen
Random encounter. Both combatants start 60 meters apart. Fights must end in death, KO, or incapacitation. Highest Interpretation Fights take place on Soul Society
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Question! Yoruichi put up a better fight against Askin than Ichigo did, so shouldn't she scale above his at least his base True Shikai form? Not to mention, the reverse Yoruichi scaling makes no sense in her profile whatsoever on how she went from 4-A to High 6-A. Why not 4-A to 3-C instead?
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She has not been updated yet, though she is on my list of misc fixes along with Yushiro (She isn't scaling to Ichigo though since Askin won't either)
Also, the 4-A is just for the Armour, you can see she's not 4-A without it.
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That armor only works if she is going off against Arrancars, is Aizen an Arrancar? Besides the armor was only designed to protect Yoruichi from fracturing her arms against Hierro like she did carelessly against Yammy not stat boost.
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Bleach: Stats for a Naked Cat (Yoruichi Key Rework)
This should be very simple, Yoruichi’s Anti-Hierro Armor key should be reworked to a Late Arrancar Arc key so it can index her stats without the armor. As far as I’m aware, Yoruichi doesn’t have any notable feats without the armor in this arc, so her armorless stats would just upscale from her...
Nevermind, I just talked about it. Doesn't seem like there was much discussion anyways
Anyways, the main reason was because her armour had all the feats. Idk if you want to try and change that, I guess you could but you're going to need some proof, especially since it is indeed a stat boost.
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Edit: Apparently, I was involved in this? I completely forgot, so I'll try to find my own reasoning lolBleach: Stats for a Naked Cat (Yoruichi Key Rework)
This should be very simple, Yoruichi’s Anti-Hierro Armor key should be reworked to a Late Arrancar Arc key so it can index her stats without the armor. As far as I’m aware, Yoruichi doesn’t have any notable feats without the armor in this arc, so her armorless stats would just upscale from her...
Content revision thread debunked by the actual source material itself; protection and anti-hierro. Congrats. Now if you can kindly answer to me if Aizen is an Arrancar or does he have Hierro, I would appreciate it.
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Nice scan, it'd be even better if it actually did anything to disprove the thread.
Content revision thread debunked by the actual source material itself; protection and anti-hierro. Congrats. Now if you can kindly answer to me if Aizen is an Arrancar or does he have Hierro, I would appreciate it.
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It's not loading on my end, so unfortunately I can't see that.
What part of anti-hierro stated by Kisuke that you do you not understand? Perhaps English is not your language?
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As the scan says (tbh it's not loading on my end so I'm just going to copy the words), "Its high hardness has the ability to destroy resilient hierro"
Hierro is just an additional durability boost as shown in series. Thus, it increases power in order to surpass tough Hierro thanks to the high hardness of the armour.
Simple to understand.
If all you're going to do is throw insults, I am stopping this conversation here and going to RVR.
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"Insults"? I don't know, but aright I still forgive you. Is Kryptonite strong against Superman because its wielded by Batman or is Batman strong against Superman because he wields Kyptonite? Uryū once used an arrow that is specifically designed to work on Yhwach, no way we are now tossing Soul King Yhwach's scaling to Uryū as well. Situational equipment designed to specially work on specifical elements don't quantify as stat boosts.
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I don't have an opinion on Batman (idk shit about him)
Uryu's arrows were a power nullifying arrow.
If you want to prove Yoruichi should scale even without the armour, make a thread (as I edited in my first comment which you may not have seen).
I agreed that if her armour is scaling, she should only have individual parts scaling and I do still think her armour is a stats amp (especially since it's clearly meant to increase power to deal with durability).
However, I am overall neutral on whether or not Yoruichi should scale to Aizen without the armour. If you can create a convincing argument with scans that Yoruichi should scale to First Fusion Aizen, you can make a thread with proper scans and justifications and try to get it passed.
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FKT AP and Durability Revisions [Chapters ~320-420]
FKT Invasion AP and Durability The Final Arrancar Saga AP/Dura Threadshou. So this thread is broken down into like 3 sections. One focused on some calc implemenation/vague Espada stuff. One is all the characters. And one is the tidbits from SAFWY that aid in scaling. Agree: Tracer (add...
I wasn't involved in this one at all, so you can just search for Yoruichi and see if the reasoning is good enough or not.
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