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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

ReaperAndBlues said:
Now that Arc is gone to get the milk, there isn't really much defense here against downgrades. Plus, he lowkey is carrying the scaling on his back, especially involving speed and he's been telling everyone to leave the verse alone. Now the verse is left alone and nobody has the experience or knowledge left to hold his place, it's getting picked apart.
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Trust me I know lol. Me, IMade, Gin, and several others used to maintain it before Arc stepped in to take over.

But we’re all burnt out now or have too many responsibilities.

I think the last thing I really did was rework the verse page a few years ago with some friends.
 
M11UTD said:
Bleach has the weakest fanbase here by far.
Naruto fans managed to get uni+ upgrade from just the word “genesis”, NnT got an upgrade from “infinite lake”, FT about to get an upgrade from “limitless”.
Bleach has an entire set of “infinite” statements and cosmic destruction amd even a confirmed 4 dimensional space from databook (similar to Dragonball) yet they always fail to get an upgrade.
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Let‘s just use the „above the stars“ statement for the royal palace distance and call it a day.

And we‘ll give everyone who might disagree 5 bucks
 
ReaperAndBlues said:
Meanwhile, the other big 3 + Dragon Ball verses has their members that are still holding it down for them who have the experience to not only cover their butts but also throw out their grievances for Bleach. One Piece still has Kachon and whatnot, Naruto still has Godernet and UchihaSlayer, Dragon Ball has DDM, Hasty, LuffyRuffy. We don't have that kind of fire anymore, no Arc, no Deceived, no LordGinSama. Only one left here is Arcker.

Somebody gotta lock tf in before Cour 4 comes around.
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Just saying but you guys probably can get Bleach timelines to 5D if the next cour actually elaborate the nature of the "futures" Yhwach was talking about of course that is assuming Kubo would be this generous to share the information.
 
Mommyleona said:
"Why do you want to fix/remove bad/outdated calcs"
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It was quite peculiar to me because literally 90% of the verses on the wiki have similar, and way bigger issues compared to outdated calcs
But coincidentally everyone seems to like downgrading bleach
The timing is also quite odd, all at the time when the supporters aren't really actively defending the verse

Hence the curiosity
 
Mommyleona said:
There's nothing that can be done for those calcs, they're just wrong, have been for years
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Funniest part about those calcs if i remember them correctly,they have basically next to no use in the wiki,true Shikai ichigo's casual speed calc is literally not even used on his profile so like(it's only relevant on dangai Ichigo and monster Aizen and it's used as a likely)(meanwhile,basically just Hikone scales to their own thing,oh and cfyow Zaraki but like everyone use their possibly downscaling speed rating to FTL+ iirc or just use speed equal for a match) .
I really don't see a point to care about these two calcs in particular even if you go into full "downgrade bad" mode given how they barely affect the profiles tbh.
 
Tbh their are so many other ways you can calculate the soul palace distance to millions of km like ichigo in the anime zipping from city to in the soul palace some of those cities having mountain ranges on them we talking moving 100s of KM in seconds or less.
 
Hellscream said:
You can literally already do that lol
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SuperSonicTL said:
Just saying but you guys probably can get Bleach timelines to 5D if the next cour actually elaborate the nature of the "futures" Yhwach was talking about of course that is assuming Kubo would be this generous to share the information.
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Would not mind seeing these different timeline cameos … 👀

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M11UTD said:
Bleach has the weakest fanbase here by far.
Naruto fans managed to get uni+ upgrade from just the word “genesis”, NnT got an upgrade from “infinite lake”, FT about to get an upgrade from “limitless”.
Bleach has an entire set of “infinite” statements and cosmic destruction amd even a confirmed 4 dimensional space from databook (similar to Dragonball) yet they always fail to get an upgrade.
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Couldn’t be more accurate and I always find it funny.
 
Yea I haven't seen a character get universal+of a statement alone an interpretive statement at that.. Meanwhile bleach has many infinite statements,many world destroying,many cross dimensional feats. Yet still barely managed to get it
 
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ichimojii said:
Yea I haven't seen a character get universal+of a statement alone an interpretive statement at that.. Meanwhile bleach has many infinite statements,many world destroying,many cross dimensional feats. Yet still barely managed to get
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reminds me of the time where bleach god tiers were like 6-A. To this day, i don’t know how that came to be.
 
We can start by removing outdated or invalid calculations from the verse's page. Sometimes we might feel hopeless about this verse, but it was one of us who made the effort and brought the verse's God-tiers up to 3-C, 3-B.
To put it simply, in the manga, Yhwach gained FTL+ by shooting a dark beam from his finger. However, this scene was removed and not used in the anime. But it still remains on the verse page, and there are characters scaled to it.
I repeat: Let's not try to build a building before clearing the rubble.
 
M11UTD said:
Bleach has the weakest fanbase here by far.
Naruto fans managed to get uni+ upgrade from just the word “genesis”, NnT got an upgrade from “infinite lake”, FT about to get an upgrade from “limitless”.
Bleach has an entire set of “infinite” statements and cosmic destruction amd even a confirmed 4 dimensional space from databook (similar to Dragonball) yet they always fail to get an upgrade.
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Any high tier feats like that is getting postponed til the end of cour 4, thats why no one has created a CRT for that.

In the meantime however, there are a couple of things to do, but I have been incredibly busy rn. So I haven't fully worked on them yet for now.
 
Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye said:
Trust me I know lol. Me, IMade, Gin, and several others used to maintain it before Arc stepped in to take over.
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Before I stepped away, I knew Arc would keep things going for some time.

My last involvement was stopping Damage from removing all the statement CRTs and reducing the size of Seireitei and Las Noches in like 2021?

But honestly, it's hard to return because the Wiki for Bleach is not what I left it in and I don't even understand the scaling that was implemented anymore despite still being up to date with the anime. I'm somewhat active on SpaceBattles, but yeah hard to follow VSBW at all anymore.
 
Ralp0054 said:
We can start by removing outdated or invalid calculations from the verse's page. Sometimes we might feel hopeless about this verse, but it was one of us who made the effort and brought the verse's God-tiers up to 3-C, 3-B.
To put it simply, in the manga, Yhwach gained FTL+ by shooting a dark beam from his finger. However, this scene was removed and not used in the anime. But it still remains on the verse page, and there are characters scaled to it.
I repeat: Let's not try to build a building before clearing the rubble.
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We need to update a lot of things really, Reio realms shake needs to be updated (I am working on that atp though), A CRT of lille light beams needs to made, Ichigo’s kiko oh yield needs to be recalced and many other things to boot.

But barely anyone aside a few is doing anything about it so don't be shocked when a downgrade threads comes lol.

EDIT: This wasn't in direction to you, but to the fandom
 
Ralp0054 said:
To put it simply, in the manga, Yhwach gained FTL+ by shooting a dark beam from his finger. However, this scene was removed and not used in the anime. But it still remains on the verse page, and there are characters scaled to it.
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Should it be removed?
 
Specterxxxx said:
A lot of things should be removed, theoretical destructions should be removed as well. Recently, I saw Blanks creating a dimension page in the bleach ap section blog, don't know who put that, but that should be removed as well.
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The question is, why should they be removed?
 
Excellence616 said:
The question is, why should they be removed?
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The theoretical realm destruction is already. contradicted by new scaling and the already accepted senjumaru and senna calc that the realms are far bigger than they are.

Now we know the theoretical realm destruction is atleast low multi, not low star level. If we leave it in blog, it would confuse a lot of people when the values of the realm size in senjumaru's and senna calcs are different than the outdated planet level realm size in that calc.

As for the yhwach reaistu speed feat, I think Ralph made some anime FTL+ version that was in a different scene but idk. I think that would be removed when the speed scaling has been updated when the time comes.
 
Arkenis said:
Who are the most active/actively working on the verse?
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I want to help more and be an active supporter of the verse but i still have to go through every rule on this site and 100% learn how the scaling system works. i try to at least mention some things that might be helpful in the meantime but i‘m currently learning like a dog for my exams🗿

Once that is done, i‘ll try to be more active and help y‘all. Sorry if it takes some time 😅
 
Specterxxxx said:
A lot of things should be removed, theoretical destructions should be removed as well. Recently, I saw Blanks creating a dimension page in the bleach ap section blog, don't know who put that, but that should be removed as well.
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The Blank thing shouldn't be removed, it is just lowball-support calc for Senna, it's basically a calc of a feat no one scale, but it is very much legit.
 
M11UTD said:
Bleach has the weakest fanbase here by far.
Naruto fans managed to get uni+ upgrade from just the word “genesis”, NnT got an upgrade from “infinite lake”, FT about to get an upgrade from “limitless”.
Bleach has an entire set of “infinite” statements and cosmic destruction amd even a confirmed 4 dimensional space from databook (similar to Dragonball) yet they always fail to get an upgrade.
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See, that is true that no one has really done Uni+/Low Multi stuff for Bleach, but it's because everyone who has tried got "the talk" from Arc and/or Deceived about waiting until Cour 4 or until they vetted the changes. Anyone can shoot for an upgrade, but we're waiting until the story finishes to see if there are any possible further upgrades to be made (or downgrades).

Shit we don't even have a cosmology blog yet.
 
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