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Never happening LMAO
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Honkai: Star Rail Discussion Thread
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link for this?
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which then scales back to yalls goat Kiana
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Its pretty easy when you think abt it. It wouldnt be a verse downscale just the characters
Mbpoops
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Nah low 1-A through imaginary singularity. Also did you link the orofiles in ur thread yet
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??? Aeons scale to the trunk of the Tree (L1-C), HI3 on the other hand scales to the branches (2-A) via Otto LMAO
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Can HSR even hang in T2. That shit sounds stacked even with Anus gone
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No one destroyed the imaginary tree in hsr only the real space which would be 2-A at most. Phainon carrying the verse fr. Kosten otto genuienly has better feats since he created a branch with bis authority over the tree
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Yes no lower than tier 2
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Actually… only the high tiers… and amped ones…
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Since when did Mbpoops start positive tracking
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And the Aeons reside in a realm higher than said real space, that's Low 1-C lol
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colon P
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Wasnt arguing aeons just the playable characters. Which is why i said phainon is carrying the verse fr
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There was a thread specifically about why being higher-dimensional doesn’t grant tiers
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Unironically the same thing could be applied with every 1-A characters rn that fails to destroy their own cosmology and only got that tier through their existence, you sure this is the path you wanna take?
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It’s not the same thing at all lol. Dimensions and higher 1-A layers are qualitatively transcendent differently
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They're the same thing, if you'd be required to destroy a Low 1-C construct despite yourself originating from said realm to even be classified onto said tier, Yumiella would lose its 1-A rating and Hanyuu Furude
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A Low 1-C construct is an infinitely sized universe which spans at least 5 dimensions. Nothing about being 5D has to do with inherently being capable of affecting an infinite sized anything.
Think of a 2D sheet of paper for a moment. You can poke your finger through it easily, but if the sheet was infinitely wide, you can’t actually destroy the entirety of it even if you’re technically dimensionally superior. So being higher-dimensional doesn’t actually imply any AP.
For 1-A it doesn’t work the same, because even “1-A atoms” are conditioned on the fact that all infinite extensions of all dimensions are undifferentiated into nothingness within it, so any movement within the 1-A realm is immediately greater than the whole unity of the underlying reality.
If you’re talking about combat-applicativeness like how LOTM has it, then sure. But Yumiella already does it as well (has no 1-A AP ratings), so I’m not sure why you brought it up.
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Actually I mixed up Yumiella with another thing but wtvr
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??? This literally just meant you have to be Infinite Low 1-C to even be classified as Low 1-C in the first place LMAOOO, when there's obvious superiority between Low 1-C and an Infinite Low 1-C one, I don't think you understand said thread very well then + Yumiella has 1-A AP ratings, it's on her Pre-Reincarnation key.
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Low 1-C isn’t being 5-dimensional.
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I though l1c-1B was whatever R^(insert real number) = tier whivh is the quantitative then l1A-h1A was qualitative bs
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If said R^R construct is of infinite size, yes. Otherwise, if it were merely being higher-dimensional, HSR would still be 1-B as of now
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H1C 1-B might be pushing it (at least imo) outside of ims
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As long as it's not sophistry I don't have any agenda. I do not care about tiers, I care about TRUTH. The reason I had issues with the downgrade is because I was seeing a lot misunderstandings, misinformation, and potential bs. So if you bring the truth then I'm with you all the way.
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Tensura is T2 atm (well be going for 1-C soon then 1-A later on) so no they cannot hang
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significant size only applies to tier 1 to low 1-A, afaik, because those things become irrelevant for 1-A
Due to the nature of 1-A, even the smallest size possible for 1-A will still be qualitatively superior to low 1-A and below because it is not reducible in any way to be able to exist as low 1-A or below. Although the FAQ did state some possible ways to circumvent this
1-A is mostly not about size but quality, so whether it is infinite or not is irrelevant
though im pretty sure we used to have ways to allow low 1-C without significant size. but idk of those even apply anymore since those have become strict and relegated to just 1-A jumps
Due to the nature of 1-A, even the smallest size possible for 1-A will still be qualitatively superior to low 1-A and below because it is not reducible in any way to be able to exist as low 1-A or below. Although the FAQ did state some possible ways to circumvent this
1-A is mostly not about size but quality, so whether it is infinite or not is irrelevant
though im pretty sure we used to have ways to allow low 1-C without significant size. but idk of those even apply anymore since those have become strict and relegated to just 1-A jumps
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This makes more sense tyty
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This is correct however it's a level of assumption that is basically required for power scaling to even function in the way it does. I agree that being a 5-D being doesn't necessarily mean you can destroy a 5-D universe let alone an infinite one. But being of that scale would more infinitely transcend a 4-D realm. The nature of their existence would be some large in magnitude we could conceptualize or comprehend it as there's no comparison.
So yes that 5-D being can maybe tear a sheet of 5-D paper and that's it but both paper and their existence wouldn't even register our existence.
Also I don't think you meant what you said with a paper analogy because a 2-D paper doesn't exist in our reality because it would lack depth. A better example might be a shadow (which isn't even 2-D but the closest example). If you know the Cave Allegory then that sums it up.
In the same that every 7-D atom is immeasurably greater than a 6-D atom, and every 6-D atom is immeasurably greater than a 5-D atom.
Only difference is that the distance between Infinite Dimensional and Outerversal is greater than 1-D and Infinite Dimensions (High Hyperversal).
I think real distinction why exist in a 1-A realm in inherently grants 1-A status is because of nature of the realm itself. These realms aren't mathematical or geometric in terms of their existence but archetypal, conceptual, or ideological in nature. They have no space or time to move in because they are beyond them. Being that exist in geometric dimensions require space and/or time exist in the way they do. So logically they cannot exist in realm entirely devoid or in this case beyond the idea of it.
Hopefully you understand what I meant. I'm equating existing in 1-A realms to those of dimensions but expolating the realm of those who exist in either one.
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