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Honkai: Star Rail Discussion Thread

I hope the next arc gives more evidence for SW's EE because the current justification is so iffy lol

It will be so fun if Bronya and Seele meet SW....for obvious reasons. I also want Welt to pair up with them...for obvious reasons
 
Doggo said:
I hope the next arc gives more evidence for SW's EE because the current justification is so iffy lol

It will be so fun if Bronya and Seele meet SW....for obvious reasons. I also want Welt to pair up with them...for obvious reasons
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welt has been inactive from every story involving a hi3 expy (except mei and himeko ofc)
 
Mbpoops said:
welt has been inactive from every story involving a hi3 expy (except mei and himeko ofc)
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They have to make him relevant at some point. They are already giving Himeko a role afterall.

It feels useless to have his HI3 backstory and not use it. Void Archives has not even appeared yet
 
Doggo said:
They have to make him relevant at some point. They are already giving Himeko a role afterall.

It feels useless to have his HI3 backstory and not use it. Void Archives has not even appeared yet
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void archives in 8.5
 
Mbpoops said:
well not anymore its not 5D low 1-C and everyone scales to it (for some reason?)

i understand why it was downgraded but i dont agree. not only is it stated to be 10 spatial + 1 time and infinite (50 times), bubble worlds that form in the sea are always bigger in size and dimensions that the preceding one its literally stated in the VN. the problem was that the bubbles inherit their dimensions from the sea meaning those 7 compact dimensions came from the sea thus making the sea only 4D + 1 time (which again i dont agree with but wtv)

https://vsbattles.com/threads/accepted-sliming-all-honkai-scaling-gone-brutal.186792/ here ya go
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OH I see they are claiming that SoQ and Imaginary Tree are equal. But hasn't been stated and demonstrated numerous times that this isn't the case or no longer the case? I'll have to look at Hi3rd scans (which is literally hundreds) but I recall the difference in upscale being the Imaginary itself as well Imaginary Space.
 
Community_Gamer said:
OH I see they are claiming that SoQ and Imaginary Tree are equal. But hasn't been stated and demonstrated numerous times that this isn't the case or no longer the case? I'll have to look at Hi3rd scans (which is literally hundreds) but I recall the difference in upscale being the Imaginary itself as well Imaginary Space.
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theres also numerous statements of the tree and sea's rivalry basicaly saying they are on hte same dimensionality (which should still be 11D) i personally dont believe in tree > sea however imaginary space should be higher than the tree. the tree gets most its scaling from the 11D sea anyway
 
Mbpoops said:
theres also numerous statements of the tree and sea's rivalry basicaly saying they are on hte same dimensionality (which should still be 11D) i personally dont believe in tree > sea however imaginary space should be higher than the tree. the tree gets most its scaling from the 11D sea anyway
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OK, I've just read a lot of that thread and reviewed some information.

How I see it that SoQ is a bathtub that reflects the Real Space. This bathtub contains bubble of all sizes and shapes, eventually some of these bubbles pop and some merge with other bubbles and grow larger. However no matter how large they grow they still need their water source (SoQ).

Now when I say the bathtub contains bubbles of all sizes I mean bubble universes of all dimensionality and scale. This is why compacted smaller than 1-D worlds can exist as well as 11- D manifolds (and possibly infinite dimensions).

I think the confusion comes when discussing the functions of SoQ, specifically the Ether Bathtub and Anchor Points. Both are parts of the Sea of Quanta which in of itself is a very irregular chaotic space with various laws, dimensions, realms, and universes within it. We have to remember the SoQ is designed to contain all possible worlds, which would naturally include worlds smaller a line on a paper and world larger than our own universe.

Why is this realm so chaotic? Well we have to look at Real Space because that's what the Sea of Quanta is mirroring or at least TRYING to.
The leaf worlds are blatantly infinite number and scale but that also means there's that many being pruned from the Tree and falling into the SoQ. Some worlds are immediately erased, some are fragmented, and some reduce greatly. You gotta remember that bubble vary greatly in size so their reflection of reality isn't perfect.

As for Imaginary Space I was gonna go into the Cave Allegory but I've yapped enough.

TLDR: SoQ is a poor reflection of Real Space (not Imaginary Space), and as world of all possibilities it has functions that allow for all those worlds to exist simultaneously but not harmoniously like the Imaginary Tree (hence Order vs Chaos). Therefore equating them seems obtuse and missing the point. They rival each other because of nature of the realms and what they represent not just because they are equal in very metric. Also 5-D SoQ does not even compute (seriously did we read the same scans).


Yap over
 
Community_Gamer said:
TLDR: SoQ is a poor reflection of Real Space (not Imaginary Space), and as world of all possibilities it has functions that allow for all those worlds to exist simultaneously but not harmoniously like the Imaginary Tree (hence Order vs Chaos). Therefore equating them seems obtuse and missing the point. They rival each other because of nature of the realms and what they represent not just because they are equal in very metric. Also 5-D SoQ does not even compute (seriously did we read the same scans).


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He infact did not read the scans this is a really good explanation though
 
Mbpoops said:
He infact did not read the scans this is a really good explanation though
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If feel degenerate enough (and am I not pulled away by Tensura for various CRTs) I'll create a thread explaining both concepts and how the seemingly contradictory information isn't actually whatsoever but ahhhh not now
 
Community_Gamer said:
OK, I've just read a lot of that thread and reviewed some information.

How I see it that SoQ is a bathtub that reflects the Real Space. This bathtub contains bubble of all sizes and shapes, eventually some of these bubbles pop and some merge with other bubbles and grow larger. However no matter how large they grow they still need their water source (SoQ).

Now when I say the bathtub contains bubbles of all sizes I mean bubble universes of all dimensionality and scale. This is why compacted smaller than 1-D worlds can exist as well as 11- D manifolds (and possibly infinite dimensions).

I think the confusion comes when discussing the functions of SoQ, specifically the Ether Bathtub and Anchor Points. Both are parts of the Sea of Quanta which in of itself is a very irregular chaotic space with various laws, dimensions, realms, and universes within it. We have to remember the SoQ is designed to contain all possible worlds, which would naturally include worlds smaller a line on a paper and world larger than our own universe.

Why is this realm so chaotic? Well we have to look at Real Space because that's what the Sea of Quanta is mirroring or at least TRYING to.
The leaf worlds are blatantly infinite number and scale but that also means there's that many being pruned from the Tree and falling into the SoQ. Some worlds are immediately erased, some are fragmented, and some reduce greatly. You gotta remember that bubble vary greatly in size so their reflection of reality isn't perfect.

As for Imaginary Space I was gonna go into the Cave Allegory but I've yapped enough.

TLDR: SoQ is a poor reflection of Real Space (not Imaginary Space), and as world of all possibilities it has functions that allow for all those worlds to exist simultaneously but not harmoniously like the Imaginary Tree (hence Order vs Chaos). Therefore equating them seems obtuse and missing the point. They rival each other because of nature of the realms and what they represent not just because they are equal in very metric. Also 5-D SoQ does not even compute (seriously did we read the same scans).


Yap over
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Also the ether anchor point is a structure that exists in the sea of quanta between euclidean manifolds which are real coordinate space so the dimension of the sea should be signifigant coordinate space. You could also probably argue that the compact dimension come from ether anchors themselves and not the sea, as in the durandal VN, durandal entered the ether anchor of the bubble, which is the origin of space in a bubble world, where those dimensions were in a knot. Ether anchors themselves are higher dimensional structures that stabilize bubble worlds so the bubbles could just inherit the infinite dimensions from the sea and the compact ones from the anchor. Also the fact bubble worlds inherit are stated to choose their inheritence of dimensions from the sea
 
EddisherSound said:
Well, here's hoping you guys get 1-A back, would make the Kamen Rider Geats (and hopefully the Ultra Series as well) match more fair
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Kamen rider geats… the only kamen rider i watched (not counting power rangers) it was pretty good
 
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Hes back… the reason hsr even exists…
 
Community_Gamer said:
OK, I've just read a lot of that thread and reviewed some information.

How I see it that SoQ is a bathtub that reflects the Real Space. This bathtub contains bubble of all sizes and shapes, eventually some of these bubbles pop and some merge with other bubbles and grow larger. However no matter how large they grow they still need their water source (SoQ).

Now when I say the bathtub contains bubbles of all sizes I mean bubble universes of all dimensionality and scale. This is why compacted smaller than 1-D worlds can exist as well as 11- D manifolds (and possibly infinite dimensions).

I think the confusion comes when discussing the functions of SoQ, specifically the Ether Bathtub and Anchor Points. Both are parts of the Sea of Quanta which in of itself is a very irregular chaotic space with various laws, dimensions, realms, and universes within it. We have to remember the SoQ is designed to contain all possible worlds, which would naturally include worlds smaller a line on a paper and world larger than our own universe.

Why is this realm so chaotic? Well we have to look at Real Space because that's what the Sea of Quanta is mirroring or at least TRYING to.
The leaf worlds are blatantly infinite number and scale but that also means there's that many being pruned from the Tree and falling into the SoQ. Some worlds are immediately erased, some are fragmented, and some reduce greatly. You gotta remember that bubble vary greatly in size so their reflection of reality isn't perfect.

As for Imaginary Space I was gonna go into the Cave Allegory but I've yapped enough.

TLDR: SoQ is a poor reflection of Real Space (not Imaginary Space), and as world of all possibilities it has functions that allow for all those worlds to exist simultaneously but not harmoniously like the Imaginary Tree (hence Order vs Chaos). Therefore equating them seems obtuse and missing the point. They rival each other because of nature of the realms and what they represent not just because they are equal in very metric. Also 5-D SoQ does not even compute (seriously did we read the same scans).


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Bro isn’t gonna be ready for when I nuke everything to T2
 
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