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Dandadan Discussion Thread

Is the "up to at least Small Building level+...up to Building level" rating on Okarun's profile for his full power supposed to say "at least Small Building level+...up to Building level" instead?

as in, is Okarun's 8-C rating for his full power, or something else?
 
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MochOath said:
Is the "up to at least Small Building level+...up to Building level" rating on Okarun's profile for his full power supposed to say "at least Small Building level+...up to Building level" instead?

as in, is Okarun's 8-C rating for his full power, or something else?
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and what is the justification/value for Okarun's Small Building level+ rating
there is no Small Building level+ calc on the verse page

thinking about adding values to the profiles
 
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MochOath said:
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and what is the justification/value for Okarun's Small Building level+ rating
there is no Small Building level+ calc on the verse page

thinking about adding values to the profiles
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Okarun scales from Momo, who has power greater than 3 Serpos, which puts him at 9-A+

That’s not the main point. It’s the Tier 7 calculation update, which will have an effect anyway. I still have his sandbox, but I don’t know how to do the scaling, so I left it as it is
 
Hello everyone. I have just made an account here because I wanted to talk about the infamous 100km/h speedcap.

In short, I believe that the speed cap is limited to Turbo Granny the YOKAI, not Okarun.

Yokai can already interact with the physical world, so there shouldn't be any logical explanation as to why yokai would want to acquire human vessels, unless that allows them to get stronger.
We know from chp 211 that yokai powers can be upgraded by humans, as Kouki Yukishiro did with the Lord of the Flies. So by logic, humans can utilize yokai powers and have a better performance than the spirits themselves, meaning they are not bound by any rules such as the 100km/h speed

That would explain why they even want to get human vessels and explain some ridiculous speed feats that Okarun pulled off in his battle against the Space Globalists and Brella Boy. I would like to hear your thoughts on this
 
GlobiYesHim said:
Hello everyone. I have just made an account here because I wanted to talk about the infamous 100km/h speedcap.

In short, I believe that the speed cap is limited to Turbo Granny the YOKAI, not Okarun.

Yokai can already interact with the physical world, so there shouldn't be any logical explanation as to why yokai would want to acquire human vessels, unless that allows them to get stronger.
We know from chp 211 that yokai powers can be upgraded by humans, as Kouki Yukishiro did with the Lord of the Flies. So by logic, humans can utilize yokai powers and have a better performance than the spirits themselves, meaning they are not bound by any rules such as the 100km/h speed

That would explain why they even want to get human vessels and explain some ridiculous speed feats that Okarun pulled off in his battle against the Space Globalists and Brella Boy. I would like to hear your thoughts on this
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that seems inconsistent since Turbo Granny is seen as an especially powerful spirit renowned for her speed.
it doesnt make sense for a top-tier, speedster-type spirit to be significantly slower than everyone else in the verse, including other spirits the gang fights
 
MochOath said:
that seems inconsistent since Turbo Granny is seen as an especially powerful spirit renowned for her speed.
it doesnt make sense for a top-tier, speedster-type spirit to be significantly slower than everyone else in the verse, including other spirits the gang fights
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Turbo Granny is the fastest of the spirits, not the power users. Humans are able to unlock the true potential of yokai powers. The fact that a humanoid or homunculus is being used to create the Ultimate Yokai should be another sign about humanity's true power
 
GlobiYesHim said:
Turbo Granny is the fastest of the spirits, not the power users. Humans are able to unlock the true potential of yokai powers. The fact that a humanoid or homunculus is being used to create the Ultimate Yokai should be another sign about humanity's true power
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yes, but other spirits are able to keep up with Okarun's speed even with Turbo Granny's powers
 
MochOath said:
yes, but other spirits are able to keep up with Okarun's speed even with Turbo Granny's powers
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Only Acrobatic Silky managed to outspeed him, but that was only because they were inside a building and he couldnt move as fast, which he points out. And the Evil Eye doesnt count because he's using Jiji as a human vessel. Same thing for Umbrella Boy.
 
GlobiYesHim said:
Only Acrobatic Silky managed to outspeed him, but that was only because they were inside a building and he couldnt move as fast, which he points out. And the Evil Eye doesnt count because he's using Jiji as a human vessel. Same thing for Umbrella Boy.
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it still doesnt make sense for every character to massively outspeed Turbo Granny, especially if its all hinging on a theory that Yokai need human vessels for a power amp
Evil Eye and the Fairy Tale Card are the only Yokai that actively sought out a human host, both with specific circumstances
Evil Eye possessed Jiji because his natural talent made him a perfect host
the Fairy Tale Card possessed Unji and Rin because he was just using them to escape from the box
 
I'm not saying they massively outspeed Turbo Granny, im saying that humans have the ability to wield yokai powers better than the yokai themselves, as essentially confirmed in Chapter 211. That's why all the feats we see in the manga battles dont make sense if we apply a 100km/h cap.

Also, we know from Turbo Granny in chapter 50 that if Evil Eyes tried to possess humans with normal or low spiritual power, their cells would break down and they would die. Why would Evil Eyes possess humans in the first place? To get stronger, but they needed a good vessel to contain their full power. That same logic can be applied to any other yokai. Doesn't Turbo Granny in the anime say that she would have liked to get him as her vessel too?
 
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GlobiYesHim said:
Hello everyone. I have just made an account here because I wanted to talk about the infamous 100km/h speedcap.

In short, I believe that the speed cap is limited to Turbo Granny the YOKAI, not Okarun.

Yokai can already interact with the physical world, so there shouldn't be any logical explanation as to why yokai would want to acquire human vessels, unless that allows them to get stronger.
We know from chp 211 that yokai powers can be upgraded by humans, as Kouki Yukishiro did with the Lord of the Flies. So by logic, humans can utilize yokai powers and have a better performance than the spirits themselves, meaning they are not bound by any rules such as the 100km/h speed

That would explain why they even want to get human vessels and explain some ridiculous speed feats that Okarun pulled off in his battle against the Space Globalists and Brella Boy. I would like to hear your thoughts on this
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1. Seiko got blitzed by Turbo Granny.
2. Turbo Granny and Okarun have the highest speed stats in the Dandadan Daizukan
3. Turbo Granny even stated that she’s faster than the Evil Eye possessing Jiji

I don’t think breaking the 100 km/h rule like this makes any sense. Even if humans can surpass a yokai’s physical body, that still case by case. If we’re only going by statements from the story, I don’t see any way that rule gets broken, unless we start talking about actual feats
 
Second22 said:
1. Seiko got blitzed by Turbo Granny.
2. Turbo Granny and Okarun have the highest speed stats in the Dandadan Daizukan
3. Turbo Granny even stated that she’s faster than the Evil Eye possessing Jiji

I don’t think breaking the 100 km/h rule like this makes any sense. Even if humans can surpass a yokai’s physical body, that still case by case. If we’re only going by statements from the story, I don’t see any way that rule gets broken, unless we start talking about actual feats
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1. Seiko doesnt really count as a yokai power user. She has no power boosting her capabilities, it's only activated through warding barriers and talismans.
2. Unless it is specified that TurbOkarun speed = Turbo Granny's, then it doesnt matter to the topic
3. Another of Turbo Granny's prideful statements that isnt really backed up by anything

I'm not saying that all the human power users can travel faster than 100km/h, im saying that Okarun doesnt have that cap. Humans are the better wielders of yokai powers
 
GlobiYesHim said:
I'm not saying they massively outspeed Turbo Granny, im saying that humans have the ability to wield yokai powers better than the yokai themselves, as essentially confirmed in Chapter 211. That's why all the feats we see in the manga battles dont make sense if we apply a 100km/h cap.

Also, we know from Turbo Granny in chapter 50 that if Evil Eyes tried to possess humans with normal or low spiritual power, their cells would break down and they would die. Why would Evil Eyes possess humans in the first place? To get stronger, but they needed a good vessel to contain their full power. That same logic can be applied to any other yokai. Doesn't Turbo Granny in the anime say that she would have liked to get him as her vessel too?
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Jiji is stated to be the perfect vessel multiple times
you can argue that he specifically can augment the powers of yokai, but theres not enough evidence to say that every power user augments yokai powers

I dont think we can go halfway with overcoming the 100kph speed cap
either everyone's way faster than 100kph due to the numerous speed feats far above it, or everyone's 80-100kph due to the numerous statements supporting it
it doesnt make sense to have some characters at 100kph while others are hundreds to thousands of times faster
 
GlobiYesHim said:
if Evil Eyes tried to possess humans with normal or low spiritual power, their cells would break down and they would die.
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also off topic, but do you guys think this is enough to get all the power users curse manipulation and resistance to curse manipulation?
 
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Can you resend the information? Many of the images are no longer visible...
 
MochOath said:
Jiji is stated to be the perfect vessel multiple times
you can argue that he specifically can augment the powers of yokai, but theres not enough evidence to say that every power user augments yokai powers

I dont think we can go halfway with overcoming the 100kph speed cap
either everyone's way faster than 100kph due to the numerous speed feats far above it, or everyone's 80-100kph due to the numerous statements supporting it
it doesnt make sense to have some characters at 100kph while others are hundreds to thousands of times faster
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It's not about Jiji being the perfect vessel, it's about yokai actively looking for human vessels for "some" reason, which logically would be to get stronger as they can already interact with the physical world. Jiji just appears to have enough spiritual power to contain the Evil Eye, which would kill another human with low spiritual power. Turbo Granny's powers are weaker than the Evil Eye's and that's why Okarun can use them, but if Evil Eye tried to take him Okarun would die.

The fact that Kouki was able to upgrade the Lord of the Flies not only confirms that humans are able to wield yokai powers better, but there's a chance that the main cast's powers were upgraded too throughout the story but we havent received confirmation yet.

By making it so that the 100km/h cap is only limited to Turbo Granny, we can take the many speed feats that we see on screen as true.
 
GlobiYesHim said:
It's not about Jiji being the perfect vessel, it's about yokai actively looking for human vessels for "some" reason, which logically would be to get stronger as they can already interact with the physical world. Jiji just appears to have enough spiritual power to contain the Evil Eye, which would kill another human with low spiritual power. Turbo Granny's powers are weaker than the Evil Eye's and that's why Okarun can use them, but if Evil Eye tried to take him Okarun would die.

The fact that Kouki was able to upgrade the Lord of the Flies not only confirms that humans are able to wield yokai powers better, but there's a chance that the main cast's powers were upgraded too throughout the story but we havent received confirmation yet.

By making it so that the 100km/h cap is only limited to Turbo Granny, we can take the many speed feats that we see on screen as true.
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Arguing here is pointless anyway. If you really want to fix it, go make a CRT
 
why is it assumed that Peeny-Weeny can punch at 80 kph?
just because a normal mantis shrimp punches that fast, doesnt mean he can while being >1000 times bigger
also it doesnt make sense that Okarun's 100 kph can completely blitz people while only being 25% faster than them
 
Hot take. Aira is better than Momo. It's not even about the competition with Momo anymore. Aira just genuinely likes Okarun. And unlike Momo (when she had her memories) she doesn't push Okarun around or bully him on the slightest misunderstanding.

Either way when Momo's memories comeback one of the girls is getting the band aid ripped right off. Most likely Aira give Momo and Okarun are the status quo.
 
57Dev said:
Hot take. Aira is better than Momo. It's not even about the competition with Momo anymore. Aira just genuinely likes Okarun. And unlike Momo (when she had her memories) she doesn't push Okarun around or bully him on the slightest misunderstanding.
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whether Aira genuinely likes Okarun is debatable, but Momo shows respect for his boundaries when she stops teasing him when he tells her to
 
MochOath said:
why is it assumed that Peeny-Weeny can punch at 80 kph?
just because a normal mantis shrimp punches that fast, doesnt mean he can while being >1000 times bigger
also it doesnt make sense that Okarun's 100 kph can completely blitz people while only being 25% faster than them
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and the Yokai power users should have curse manip/curse manip res
 
Oh boy oh boy. Reading today's chapter, I had a idea. What if Tatsu just breaks the trope of the main guy ending up with the main girl entirely. As in, not every first love is successful (actually most aren't so it would be pretty realistic.) But it would be very interesting if what's going on, keeps going on and when things become stable again and Okarun moves on, Momo gets her powers and memories back.

Although that's a less that 0.1% chance. These chapter have been just rage baiting honestly. I 99.9% expect a bait and switch. It would be far to mature for Dandadan to do things such as accepting it doesn't always work out neither do I think he would separate the main would be couple. Still this is annoying.
 
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Yep. Solidified by hate for Jiji. I always found him annoying but now he is outright a snake. Yeah sure Aira also flirts with Okarun but at least she is open about it and challenges Momo face to face, rather than acting like a friend then backstabbing her while she isn't there.

When Kinta tried taking advantage of Momo's amnesia everyone calls him a creep. Meanwhile Jiji is finding excuses to touch her. He let's misunderstandings develop more for his own benefit. Okarun really needs a better friend that this snake traitor.

Also holy crap the amount of villains lurking around is insane. And that includes Jiji.
 
i refuse to fall for Tatsu's ragebait in these past few chapters

also Chainsawman is now canon to Dandadan apparently
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You know what ? **** it, I am team Aira now. Really I see no reason to support Momo after this chapter. Aira did in a few chapters what Momo hasn't done in a hundred, Not leave Okarun hanging and actually give him a clear answer about her interest. She is better is literally every metric.
 
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