Possible Low 1-C for Kivryelle

[Youngwolf-0.1]

Hello everyone
Possible Low 1-C for Kivryelle?

So let's start

The 6 Goddesses are explicitly stated to exist in a higher dimension than the main setting, which is confirmed to be a 4-dimensional world (space + time).

THE GODDESSES ARE BEINGS OF A HIGHER DIMENSION THAN US. THE DIMENSION THAT THEY EXIST IN IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.WE LIVE IN A 4-DIMENSIONAL WORLD. JUST AS WE ARE SHAPES DRAWN ON A PLANE FROM THEIR POINT OF VIEW…

This is a direct ontological statement. The Goddesses do not merely draw power from a higher realm—they **exist as higher-dimensional beings. This confirms that the difference is qualitative, not quantitative. Their dimension is not just a larger space, but fundamentally distinct from the lower one. The lower setting is clearly defined as 4-dimensional spacetime, removing ambiguity about dimensional terminology. This analogy mirrors the standard higher-dimensional framework ,lower-dimensional entities are reduced to projections ,perspective is asymmetric, interaction is fundamentally limited. Also 4-D beings are incapable of interacting with or affecting the Goddesses due to dimensional disparity, reinforcing qualitative superiority.

We who reached the Fifth Dimension are called gods…”

This confirms that Fifth Dimension is a real, defined realm, godhood is tied to dimensional ascension, reaching it represents a change in existential status, not merely power level.

Therefore the 6 Goddesses qualify for Low 1-C due to explicit existence in a higher dimension, qualitative transcendence over a confirmed 4-D spacetime, clear lower-dimensional analogy and interaction asymmetry

 

[Vietthai96]

Yeah, this look pretty direct Low 1-C to me

 

[BreezeHM]

Yeah I read this series as well, it's pretty clear about higher dimensions.

 

[Reiner04]

Good to go.

 

[Hjdjdhf]

Great

 

[TWILIGHT-OP]

Pretty straightforward.

 

[Grabbing_dragon]

Seems fine. I should add, that this isn’t qualitative transcendence. It’s simply a higher number of dimensions compared to the lower world, which makes it quantitative superiority, since it’s still the same continuity. Qualitative superiority only begins at 1-A and above

 

[SweetDao]

Tempted to say it's only HDE and not AP tbf. But in any case, I don't think it's too problematic, probably.

 

[Youngwolf-0.1]

Yeah, this look pretty direct Low 1-C to me

Pretty straightforward.

Good to go.

Can i applied this?

 

[Reiner04]

Can i applied this?

Need ome admin vote.

 

[Vietthai96]

Can i applied this?

Tier 2 and above need at least 1 admin vote

 

[Random-Helper323]

This looks straightforward enough.

 

[FriendOfTheTeaParty]

I'm confused. Don't you need to prove higher dimensions are universal or larger in size? I don't see anything about proving that

If it's about viewing lower dimension as flat/a plane that's not really proof of size since higher dimensions just... do that as they possess more degrees of freedom?

It'd be like assuming all higher-dimensions are tier worthy because it literally ends up as "the higher-dimension views the lower-dimension as if it was lower-dimensional". A tautology. The problems with that are pretty obvious right?

 

[FriendOfTheTeaParty]

I'm confused. Don't you need to prove higher dimensions are universal or larger in size? I don't see anything about proving that

If it's about viewing lower dimension as flat/a plane that's not really proof of size since higher dimensions just... do that as they possess more degrees of freedom?

I got brought some pretty bad anti-feats for 5-D here supposedly being low 1-C by someone. I'm not familiar with this manhwa so I cant really argue too in depth but it does seem pretty bad.

A 5-D being could be trapped within 4-D (Not really as bad as next ones and person doesnt remember context so who knows if its even an anti-feat)


A 1000x power amp allowed someone to reach 5-D levels of power when they weren't 5-D in power beforehand.



MC with 5-D power treats having density of a neutron star and creating a black hole as impressive in power



I think this is proof that higher-dimensions here arent treated infinitely superior, and is mostly just HDE.

 

[Robo432343]

those are some crazy anti feats
hell naw

 

[Vietthai96]

 

[TWILIGHT-OP]

those are some crazy anti feats
hell naw

For the very first time i can agree with you robo.

 

[Robo432343]

For the very first time i can agree with you robo.

*second

 

[TWILIGHT-OP]

@Youngwolf-0.1 do you have something to say?

 

[Youngwolf-0.1]

@Youngwolf-0.1 do you have something to say?

Yes, i do that later

 

[Youngwolf-0.1]

A 5-D being could be trapped within 4-D (Not really as bad as next ones and person doesnt remember context so who knows if its even an anti-feat)

No, the reason why the goodness of darkness got sealed because he got weaken by ormphlaus which is equal to goodness

A 1000x power amp allowed someone to reach 5-D levels of power when they weren't 5-D in power beforehand.

The amp allowed temporary access to divine power, barolt itself confirms It’s incomplete, Inferior to true divine power, Not a stable god state. The amp is described as what allowed access to the god state, not what constitutes it. That means the 5th dimension is not reducible to raw energy quantity, but requires a state change.
Godhood is treated as a qualitative state, not raw power. Elsewhere, a true god is defined as Higher-dimensional, Transcending the self, Abandoning the physical body. That means 5-D is an ontological condition, not something you permanently reach by multiplying energy. The 1000× amp only enabled partial resonance.

 

[SweetDao]

The amp is described as what allowed access to the god state, not what constitutes it. That means the 5th dimension is not reducible to raw energy quantity, but requires a state change.

This doesn't change anything because it is explicitly stated as a 5-dimensional energy amp. That it isn't on par with the goddesses or not is irrelevant because even Garhan with his divinity got stalemate if not overwhelmed by Ryu Han Bin. Both were using their Divinity.

No one is saying that Gods aren't in a "higher dimension" nor that they can't have HDE (debatable but I think it's fine) but it's pretty clear they aren't higher level of infinity.

 

[Mr._East_Statement]

Reading it, I was already disagree with it even before the anti-feats, because "higher dimensional" and "different" are not proof for you to be living in a dimensional that is quantitatively infinitely higher, and I would need some statements that confirm the infinity of the dimension. I also don't see the five dimensional entities having any feat or statements that suggest they necessarily can do it on a whole universal scale. And it being called flat, indeed as MGQ said, is not necessarily a proof.

… Moving on, anti-feats are nevertheless concerning, particularly the one regarding becoming 5 dimensional through a finite sum of quantity. Even if we say "it is incomplete" or such, it confirms that the supposedly infinitely higher "5th dimension" can be nevertheless accessed by a finite jump. Which should be a big no no.

To me if the higher dimensional isn't explicitly described in its superiority in a infinite value, it is not qualifying for scale.

So I clearly disagree with it for the same reasons as MGQ and Dao. I rather vote for HDE (which it also can not be that I'd say if we go strict).

 

[LiewtiStar]

Way too many anti-feats that was not even showed in the CRT first lol.

Anyway disagree FRA, fine with HDE

 

[Vietthai96]

Yikes, anyway, switch my vote to being fine with 5D and HDE, but not Low 1-C

 

[Random-Helper323]

Yikes, anyway, switch my vote to being fine with 5D and HDE, but not Low 1-C

Same here. Open to being convinced to change it back, but right now I have to say this is concerning.

 

[TWILIGHT-OP]

This left me with a pretty bad impression of the OP. Next time you make a CRT, please be more transparent about things like this.
That said, I’m walking back my previous decision, I’m fine with HDE alone and nothing else.

 

[SweetDao]

Newest chapter put that stuff even more down the drain

This left me with a pretty bad impression of the OP. Next time you make a CRT, please be more transparent about things like this.
That said, I’m walking back my previous decision, I’m fine with HDE alone and nothing else.

I don't think he has any malicious intent, I know the guy (from afar) maybe he just didn't believe it was an antifeat. which isn't a crime or anything, he just needed to be a bit more diligent.

 

[TWILIGHT-OP]

Newest chapter put that stuff even more down the drain

I don't think he has any malicious intent, I know the guy (from afar) maybe he just didn't believe it was an antifeat. which isn't a crime or anything, he just needed to be a bit more diligent.

Fair enough.

 

[Reiner04]

 

[FriendOfTheTeaParty]

Newest chapter put that stuff even more down the drain

I don't think he has any malicious intent, I know the guy (from afar) maybe he just didn't believe it was an antifeat. which isn't a crime or anything, he just needed to be a bit more diligent.

Ye I didn't really think OP was being dishonest. Probably didnt think anything of these anti-feats.

 

[Youngwolf-0.1]

This left me with a pretty bad impression of the OP. Next time you make a CRT, please be more transparent about things like this.
That said, I’m walking back my previous decision, I’m fine with HDE alone and nothing else.

I understand, and I just want to clarify that I didn’t have any intention to be misleading. If something came across that way, that’s on me and I’ll be more careful and transparent next time. Thanks for reconsidering and for the feedback.

Since everyone agree for HDE(5D) i think it's fine to applied this

 

[Reiner04]

I understand, and I just want to clarify that I didn’t have any intention to be misleading. If something came across that way, that’s on me and I’ll be more careful and transparent next time. Thanks for reconsidering and for the feedback.

Since everyone agree for HDE(5D) i think it's fine to applied this

Its fine. It also doesn't seems to me that u tried to mislead us. Just weren't aware that the anti-feats are actually anti-feats. Yes you can apply the HDE.

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

OP looks fine to me.

 

[Youngwolf-0.1]

Its fine. It also doesn't seems to me that u tried to mislead us. Just weren't aware that the anti-feats are actually anti-feats. Yes you can apply the HDE.

This left me with a pretty bad impression of the OP. Next time you make a CRT, please be more transparent about things like this.
That said, I’m walking back my previous decision, I’m fine with HDE alone and nothing else.

Same here. Open to being convinced to change it back, but right now I have to say this is concerning.

Yikes, anyway, switch my vote to being fine with 5D and HDE, but not Low 1-C

Before i applied the changes can you give your opinion her new profile

https://vsbattles.com/threads/new-profile-for-kivye.187860/
Thank you

 

[Slayazy]

Are we getting some more profile? Recent chapter gave us some more information such as God’s being able to create, destroy and affect infinite timelines as well.

 

[Youngwolf-0.1]

Are we getting some more profile? Recent chapter gave us some more information such as God’s being able to create, destroy and affect infinite timelines as well.

Yea after the manhwa finish

 

[Slayazy]

Yea after the manhwa finish

Got like a year left prolly then

 

[Youngwolf-0.1]

Got like a year left prolly then

can you help with this?https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:Youngwolf-0.1/Sandbox

 

[Arceus0x]

Bruh how is there a profile for her but not for the literal main character????