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All Purpose Dragon Ball Thread
- Thread starter Warren_Valion
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why were you acting like you're not the same person all this time?? why my love??? what is there to hide??
honestly im just confused and heartbroken
RoninSlayer200
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Robo is yearnatron 2000
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Wow, a lot happened while I was asleep, and new users are attacking again...
ProudLearner
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dude you just made it even more obvious that you're MeiouHades
let me handle this.
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how about you **** off
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god damn, DB is so back; Iyoku managed to involve Toriyama in other projects AND confirmed a movie was in development way before daima and stated that material exists for another ten years of dragonball. The ideas were ready; the legal dispute simply blocked them ... cant wait what Toriyama cooked for us
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god damn, DB is so back; Iyoku managed to involve Toriyama in other projects AND confirmed a movie was in development way before daima and stated that material exists for another ten years of dragonball. The ideas were ready; the legal dispute simply blocked them ... cant wait what Toriyama cooked for us
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what even is happening
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first world problems
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Never stop the madness
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Bump
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Low multi as in infinite universe destroyer? Sorry for the question, but everyone and their mother got a different definition for that, tjhahah. For starters, while you can "cut" an edge into an infinite space with the right tool, having an edge was never an anti feat to begin with. But Frieza aint a universe buster ... Manga got some cool feats like creating an explosion that dwarfs the moon (Nappa) or Gokus power up etc. but at best, hes an overtime buster because of BoG.
The difference is that BoG Goku scales above Kid Buu. You could create two entire respect threads just proving hes the strongest Buu and a universe buster. And thats ignoring the multi-universal range of the spirit bomb Goku used against him both in the manga/anime.
The idea of Frieza one shotting a universe is as laughable as wanking 99% of mangas/webtoons to universal/multiversal levels. They are over time - achievers, not one shot achievers ... tztz.
I could see Cell one shotting a universe with one eye closed and some good shit from Cubah... but my gut tells me its still wrong. Bro more of an MFTL+ over time universe buster, but still miles better than "universe buster" Freeezschaaa
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RBoG Goku / Kid Buu = universe buster
Freeza/Cell tier = overtime busters from days to years
Nullflowerblush
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Back to a story written for a film released in 2013 and then adapted into a television anime in 2015 leading up to the later adaptation of a manga-unique plot from 2018 instead of producing original stories!!!! WOOOO!!!!
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Fisrt: Manga Buu in VSBW wiki isn't a uni buster, just solar system lvl, making your claim about BoG manga one statement with 0 feats being relevant false.Low multi as in infinite universe destroyer? Sorry for the question, but everyone and their mother got a different definition for that, tjhahah. For starters, while you can "cut" an edge into an infinite space with the right tool, having an edge was never an anti feat to begin with. But Frieza aint a universe buster ... Manga got some cool feats like creating an explosion that dwarfs the moon (Nappa) or Gokus power up etc. but at best, hes an overtime buster because of BoG.
The difference is that BoG Goku scales above Kid Buu. You could create two entire respect threads just proving hes the strongest Buu and a universe buster. And thats ignoring the multi-universal range of the spirit bomb Goku used against him both in the manga/anime.
The idea of Frieza one shotting a universe is as laughable as wanking 99% of mangas/webtoons to universal/multiversal levels. They are over time - achievers, not one shot achievers ... tztz.
I could see Cell one shotting a universe with one eye closed and some good shit from Cubah... but my gut tells me its still wrong. Bro more of an MFTL+ over time universe buster, but still miles better than "universe buster" Freeezschaaa
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BoG Goku / Kid Buu = universe buster
Freeza/Cell tier = overtime busters from days to years
Second: Universe in DB is infinite, so destroying it in not one-shot is imposible(that are statements about universe itself erasing, not just destroying planets in it)
Third: Why you didn't address Super Genkidama made from energy of the entire universe, which should make it infinite energy? I even made a blog/calc about it in case of finite universe
Forth: Frieza's race life span is lower than Namekian life span and we can estimate it as 150-200 years(Frieza's was 30+ already), so to destroy even a finite unniverse would make him much higher in terms of power and speed than he is on wiki
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when you say this, you mean the statements preclude the possibility of planet busting, or just dont explicitly mention it.
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No offense, but powerscalers on pretty much every single site give me the impression of discussing 1+1=3, and they are always trying to find holes where no holes exist.
Nice bait. But i have a feeling you are just trolling - i like it, keep it up - so heres my middlefinger.
Your entire point: Me caring where VSwiki places them, arguing that one shotting an infinite structure is impossible (lol), while using the spirit bomb statement which only applies to the manga, when Toei Frieza is the one with gazillions of universal statements.
The cherry on top is you ignoring that Goku used a multi-universal spirit bomb against Kid Buu... which implies 2 is bigger than 1 universe regarding Frieza. Like ... what the hell are we even discussing? Lol. Frieza cant be a one-shot universe buster simply due to Kid Buu existing and BoG scaling above him.
Moral of the story? Frieza may or may not be a universe buster... but at the end of the day, its just an outlier that would make powerscaling sites go full ***** ... which req an infinte amount of energy drinks
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Nice bait. But i have a feeling you are just trolling - i like it, keep it up - so heres my middlefinger.
Your entire point: Me caring where VSwiki places them, arguing that one shotting an infinite structure is impossible (lol), while using the spirit bomb statement which only applies to the manga, when Toei Frieza is the one with gazillions of universal statements.
The cherry on top is you ignoring that Goku used a multi-universal spirit bomb against Kid Buu... which implies 2 is bigger than 1 universe regarding Frieza. Like ... what the hell are we even discussing? Lol. Frieza cant be a one-shot universe buster simply due to Kid Buu existing and BoG scaling above him.
Moral of the story? Frieza may or may not be a universe buster... but at the end of the day, its just an outlier that would make powerscaling sites go full ***** ... which req an infinte amount of energy drinks
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I mean direct statements about him being able to destroy an entire universe
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I mean imm fine with uni freezscha, but this would create such a shitstorm, it would dwarf the utter nonsense you read about db H2H and headcanon stories about Toriyama
Like bro, there are still guys who dont buy Goku being capable of one shotting a universe, and i aint talking about yuyube/dikdok.
But keep that 50 inch energy ... me gusta.
Like bro, there are still guys who dont buy Goku being capable of one shotting a universe, and i aint talking about yuyube/dikdok.
But keep that 50 inch energy ... me gusta.
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There are many statements in anime(both Kai and Z) with energy from the entire universe, so not only manga
Goku used all 3 realms against Kid Buu and Afterlife is enourmosly bigger than the mortal universe(heck, Heaven which is the size of mortal universe can't be even seen from Enma Realm, it's so much bigger) and from much stronger Z fighters. Also there are many statements when characters in DBS are using their full power with statements about "destroying planet" but it doesn't make them below star lvl and everything below them planetoid or lower
Why would it be an outlier? By this logic we can call BoG an outlier because in manga they are never talking about something universe destroying again
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Db H2H?
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No offense, but your first comment shows that you didnt really read my comment... I do fully get your point but:
Theres a stronger case for Kid Buu being a uni buster than Toei/Manga Cell/Frieza every single statement and spirit bomb case combined. At least we know Buu is stronger (thats always been the right translation) than a young Beerus with the power to one shot the kaio realm , or in the anime destroying a galaxy instantly. So Kid Buu has a much better foundation than the likes of freeezaschaa.
And BoG scales above that.
Regarding DBS and menti. uni stuff again: Herms and another japaneso speaker agreed that Zamasu meaning "these galaxies" (plural) in hindsight made a lot more sense. Then theres Kid Buus (godly-)power still being relevant in the Moro arc etc.
Martial arts and everything surrounding Toriyama. The most annoying things you will see from non-fans or even fans
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Even if you talk day and night, no one will be convinced. This has already happened to me. Even with the author’s words, evidence, and everything else, they still won’t be convinced. If the statements of the author and the Dragon Ball staff don’t convince them, then what evidence do you think could ever prove your argument?
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But in Kid Buu's case it's again just statements as for Frieza. And again, on vsbw we don't have manga Buu at uni lvl(atleast for now) so upscaling BoG manga from it is false, even thou it's illogical to conclude BoG manga one statement is more reliable that thousands of statements for Frieza, Cell and Buu in manga. Frieza in anime also shown a good feat on par with Buu
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Does the Wiki accept the Time Room as being the foundation of the universe's space-time?
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Hey Null what is your favorite color?
Nullflowerblush
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Pig pink.
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DB 6D 
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How strong is Zeno from DBH? I don't know DBH, but is it the same Zeno from the canon or is there a difference?
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I think the same
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Remember it was 3-C+ back when Toei Goku wasn't High 3-A
Goku shakes the Afterlife Redone
vsbattles.fandom.com
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So, Goku Majin Buu saga Galaxy level in the manga soon?Remember it was 3-C+ back when Toei Goku wasn't High 3-A
Goku shakes the Afterlife Redone
I mean, they say it will combine the manga and anime, making it a direct continuation of the manga, or at least that's what I heard, and they also said they might include Goku's mental training from the manga, so Goku dbz Will be 1/8 Goku dbs
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Zeno's palace is 8D @LuffyRuffy46307
Mbpoops
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true!!!
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