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Strongest 5-D Characters on the Wiki

D still has his aura that can passively cause fear down to the concept, DMC guys aren't going to be able to actually kill D due to his several layers of High Godly and High Godly regen neg resistance, in addition to having his own high godly regen neg + being able to cut folks concepts, the only real pain point is the passives but D is a)Entirely liable to adapt, b)Mundus doesn't actually resist D's own passives c)Some of that stuff D just won't care about (the illusion hax is going to end with D cutting through and killing the illusions for example)
Souls > Concept in DMC and every single relevant mf has fear haxed souls (and even shit that is straight up immune to fear hax in some cases) so this shouldn't be a problem

Regen negg would be since High Godly negg >> Mid Godly negg no matter the layers (still will change whenever we update the regen to high G)

What passives exactly? From what I know VHD doesn't have that many layers not that it matters since RM is going for 1-A in the future anyways while D won't be able to tank Mundus' passives cuz of layers. Not to mention demons have some form of subjective reality that is literally just reactive evolution based on their desires so Mundus would just evolve too


But I don't really care about about DMC on this list. I would be fine with them being with GoW for old times sake while we fix the remaining profiles (like Mundus) and eventually add stuff that is still missing.

I'm here to wank Master Unit: Amaterasu and downplay dragon ball >:v
 
To me it seems he already did that at some point of that "arc" and already has it active
It's a technique he has to activate, not an innate state of his being, its connected to his dao (which is why he gets it in his last key, since his true fate fused with it), but he still has to activate it, and sure its (probably) his first move, but passives can get him if he doesn't outspeed them
 
Anos have passive Fear, Sleep & Death Manipulation that extends to kilometers iirc.
Was going to comment on it being incon bare minimum then, but while looking through his profile, I found an argument for him being a smurf in this key, and would like to check that over with the supporter first before I say anything further, so
 

uh
wonder which verses this affects
DMC get affected, that 6D 1-C Kingdom Heart also get affected

On another note Punishing Gray Raven also likely will lose the possibly 1-B rating
 
1) No. Just containing multiple 4D structures just makes you multiverse-sized. And being called infinite in no way means being infinite in terms of a 5D axis. Anything containing an infinite universe is infinite. That we have the difference between countably infinite and uncountably infinite as the difference between dimensional levels (as, amongst others, explained in the multiverse example) is just the cherry on top. - DontTalkDT
i agree option 2 is strict but isn't DT right here in this case? an infinite 4-d realm containing multiple 4d realms is just higher into 4D size...
 
I don't think so, option 2 literally need the verse to either, the extra dimension need to be specifically show to be significant size or that the verse directly stated all of its axes/dimensions/directions is significant in size
 
"A realm's higher-dimensional axes are assumed to be insignificant or 'thin' unless specific evidence is provided to prove they share the infinite or significant scale of the lower dimensionial axis of the higher dimensional realm/Universe."

LMFAO this is contradictory to itself because as per our cosmology rules this wouldn't fly at all. Being infinitely bigger than a universe wouldn't mean that the 5th axis is infinite either. There's a huge difference between a 5D structure being infinite just because it contains a spacetime, versus the 5D structure itself being called infinite, independent of whatever it contains.
 
I don't think so, option 2 literally need the verse to either, the extra dimension need to be specifically show to be significant size or that the verse directly stated all of its axes/dimensions/directions is significant in size
The wording doesn't imply that. If anything it implies something that contradicts our Tiering System Q&A. Mainly...

"prove they share the infinite or significant scale of the lower dimensionial axis of the higher dimensional realm/Universe"

This part specifically. As it stands it doesn't even ask to clarify the relationship between the two structures.

Obviously higher-dimensional structures called infinite on their own independently wouldn't be affected by this. Only structures that contain space-times and then don't have any more elaboration.
 
I don't think so, option 2 literally need the verse to either, the extra dimension need to be specifically show to be significant size or that the verse directly stated all of its axes/dimensions/directions is significant in size
What would even classify as significant size? Authors default to metaphors. Calling universes Atoms, or "distant stars" or "galaxies" then calling the greater cosmological scale a Macrocosm or universe.

If option 2 is the direction id like them ro give out examples of what qualifies at least...
 
What would even classify as significant size? Authors default to metaphors. Calling universes Atoms, or "distant stars" or "galaxies" then calling the greater cosmological scale a Macrocosm or universe.
93 billion light years. Even a planck unit short and it's not "significant size" LMAO
 
Yeah we need examples of qualifying metaphors. At this point its literally looking for hyper specific statements
Usually being called a universe or universal in size in Tier 2 dealings is fine. But in Tier 1 you'd be hard-pressed to find higher-dimensional structures that are just universal in size versus say, straight up infinite (Latter is way easier to prove due to the sheer frequency they occur in fiction).
 
damn i didn't even know lotm had that much layers
It had a few. But I can prob still argue the conceptual stuff to be layered maybe.

anyway lotm anime layers>>>>
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uh
wonder which verses this affects
Uhh...like 90% of them on the wiki bro ☠️
Surprisingly not Honkai
 
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