Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken Discussion Thread 20

[Eikichi_Sensei]

Turn Null must be an attack of immeasurable speed, since it absorbs all of cosmology, as well as the information particles that are in time and space.

 

[Nonynho]

Was that in the previous blog post?

Nope, and i think we can just get them approved and adequate the info later, too

 

[Nonynho]

Wait, so we aren't proposing any new layers...?

That seems rather too little for a CRT, especially when we can just summarize all the regular layers in a single CRT (⁠눈⁠‸⁠눈⁠)

Let's get the new blog with the currently approved stuff through a CRT (since it unfortunately needs so)
and then we can grab a bunch of layers, get them approved and just intert them there :>

 

[Astral_Trinity439]

Please do, ty for the effort


it'll take quite a bit to rewrite stuff, but i need scans and proper references for the stuff you brought, mate

I've added the references. All of those in absorption are from V1 and 2. Added a line for distinguishing between both.

Also, those are scans in quotes. You can just screenshot them. It's allowed here tbh (I used that option often in my blogs since my mobile screen pdf can't fit a lot of text in one scan, whereas a screenshot of a quote(s) here in desktop mode is far larger and more encompassing

No, as I understand it, we are only improving the layers blog from the old blog and adding the existential erase resistance layers section, which has recently been accepted.

Oh welp

I'll still give the ideas for future CRTs tho, don't mind me (⁠◔⁠‿⁠◔⁠)

 

[Berga14]

I'll still give the ideas for future CRTs tho, don't mind me (⁠◔⁠‿⁠◔⁠)

Do you want to do that ~90 US layers? Or was it only for the other wiki

 

[Nonynho]

I'll still give the ideas for future CRTs tho, don't mind me (⁠◔⁠‿⁠◔⁠)

i will mind you, cuz then we may get 2 versions, the one to approve rn and the one to accompany the other new layers :>

 

[Eikichi_Sensei]

Do you want to do that ~90 US layers? Or was it only for the other wiki

Oh god, how is that possible?

 

[Berga14]

Oh god, how is that possible?

Will/law hax

 

[Astral_Trinity439]

Power Nullification
Blog seems fine. You could add another layer for Michael since it can nullify everything (even void collapse) as long as the user has faithful followers

Oh god, how is that possible?

Some willpower stuff and guidebook scans that need tl

Do you want to do that ~90 US layers? Or was it only for the other wiki

Imma bring it here eventually
I got a pretty blatant scan from V13.5 guide that no twp skills are on the same level (law manip)

i will mind you, cuz then we may get 2 versions, the one to approve rn and the one to accompany the other new layers :>

I mind your minding^⁠_⁠^

 

[Nonynho]

Power Nullification
Blog seems fine. You could add another layer for Michael since it can nullify everything (even void collapse) as long as the user has faithful followers

scan with reference pretty please?

 

[Astral_Trinity439]

scan with reference pretty please?

But now I’m wondering a bit. Why isn’t Feldway trying to fight back at all? That’s helpful for me, really, but at this rate, we’re gonna cycle through the same basic moves until the end of time. I’m using Void Collapse, but that’s an absorption-type skill, not one I release myself, so it’s not really tiring me out much. The same was true for Feldway, however, as he hadn’t taken any damage yet. It felt like he was using some skill to shore up his defense, but parrying everything I threw at him like this was keeping him from being gassed too much.
V19C1 OTL

«No, this is too unnatural. Anyone else would feel threatened. The only
person I could imagine reacting that way was Michael protected by Castle
Guard—»

Yeah, you say that, but it didn’t work one single bit, dude. I wasn’t even sure Abyss Annihilation (which I saw Carrera bust out in the labyrinth) would even work. It was looking like Feldway was fighting with a Godclass sword, too, and if Imaginary Blade didn’t work, maybe some kind of divine force was in place. Meltslash, being on a lower level, was unlikely to fare any better against him.

And, you know, thinking about it…I couldn’t have Benimaru outdoing me. So I asked Ciel to come up with a finisher more suited to my gifts—and I wasn’t shy about offering it my feedback, either. I wanted it to take Void Collapse—a skill that I still didn’t really understand, despite multiple explanations—and adapt it in a way that’d boost my sword powers.

That was how Imaginary Blade was born. It didn’t cut through spiritual
particles at all, you see—instead, it ate them. That’s what made it special. There was no blocking this ability that consumed spiritual particles into Complex Space. The only way to resist it was to dodge it entirely. Catching it with your sword ended the fight immediately, making it a literal insta-kill.

My philosophy for things like this is that a finisher isn’t really a finisher unless it ends the fight right there. Among my closer friends, after all, nothing ever worked on them twice. Show them a skill, and they’d take countermeasures against it. I couldn’t show them my real finishers until it really, really mattered.

And, of course, you could counteract Imaginary Blade with things like Parallel Existences, the way Velgrynd liked to—but in a battle between two high ranked spiritual life-forms, the main focus is on energy management. Whoever exhausts their opponent first is the winner, kind of. Even if you failed to truly finish with your best move, that didn’t make Imaginary Blade any less dangerous.
So, now that we were at this point, I wasted no time revealing that finisher of mine, so strong was my desire to finish Feldway off immediately. And yet, with the sound of what felt like the air groaning under the pressure, my sword was stopped.

«…?!»

I could tell Ciel was surprised. I bet it was. I was pretty damn shocked, too.
V19C1 OTL

So I explained matters to Sylvia and the knights, ensuring we were all on the same page. It looked like Michael was duplicating his skills and giving them to Feldway, so there was effectively no way to defeat Feldway unless we could break through his Castle Guard. He also had control over domination-type skills, Ultimate Dominion included, so no one but an ultimate skill owner could compete with him. That very much limited the pool of people who could take him or Michael on.
V19C1 OTL

“It’s similar, isn’t it? To the Lord of Justice skill you’re using now.”
Castle Guard was invincible as long as the invoker still had devotees. It “listened” to the voices that were faithful to it—and in that sense, Uriel and Michael could be described as similar.
V19C4 OTL

But then a problem arose.

“Ngh. Is this…pain?”

Castle Guard, which was supposed to nullify all strikes, failed to activate for some reason. The layered attack from Obela’s army, and all the unthinkable amounts of energy it stored, seared Michael’s body.

 

[Nonynho]

?

Can you get me those V19C1 (just one, since Astral showed 3) and V19C4 scans as images, pretty please?

 

[Astral_Trinity439]

Can you get me those V19C1 (just one, since Astral showed 3) and V19C4 scans as images, pretty please?

I will nuke that laziness (⁠눈⁠‸⁠눈⁠)

Gyazo

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[Eikichi_Sensei]

Can you get me those V19C1 (just one, since Astral showed 3) and V19C4 scans as images, pretty please?

Gyazo

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Gyazo

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[Astral_Trinity439]

Can you get me those V19C1 (just one, since Astral showed 3) and V19C4 scans as images, pretty please?

Curse manip

Also give 2 layer resistance to Zegion since he resisted Belphegor

Mind Control
There's a mental magic called possession. That should work for baseline (yes, it's mind manip, not just possession, since it breaks the mind).

Alternatively, you can use vampires' intrinsic skill <charm> for baseline mind manip.

Uniques (unless they let their guard down) should resist both of them. Clayman's unique should work on others like Frey or Carrion since uniques work on other uniques. Alternatively, Diablo's <charm> or <temptation> should do the same (as the prior is backed by a unique skill)

Shion, and anyone who upscales from her, should get 1 layer mind RES since she resisted Clayman's unique.

Ultimate skill users get 1 layer resistance too.

Diablo with his charm domination should get 2 layer mind manip in his Azazel key (since it's backed up by an ultimate)

Milim would resist that since she's far superior to Diablo.

Michael gets 3 Layers of it
And Veldanava, Chloe and Rimuru get 3 layers resistance

Power Destruction
You can also give Power Destruction to Deviant and then go for 1 layer for Disintegration by that.

Basically deviant can seize skills by using <Separate>, but what if someone just separates skills without taking them away?
Well per deviant's description that "target" (skill), if it doesn't have physical form, vanishes into nothing. So yeh, can base it off that

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On another note, how and when are we adding that each +300k EP gives +1 layer of EE RES? (This would go into hundreds of layers for the high tiers)

 

[Eikichi_Sensei]

Curse manip

Also give 2 layer resistance to Zegion since he resisted Belphegor

Mind Control
There's a mental magic called possession. That should work for baseline (yes, it's mind manip, not just possession, since it breaks the mind).

Alternatively, you can use vampires' intrinsic skill <charm> for baseline mind manip.

Uniques (unless they let their guard down) should resist both of them. Clayman's unique should work on others like Frey or Carrion since uniques work on other uniques. Alternatively, Diablo's <charm> or <temptation> should do the same (as the prior is backed by a unique skill)

Shion, and anyone who upscales from her, should get 1 layer mind RES since she resisted Clayman's unique.

Ultimate skill users get 1 layer resistance too.

Diablo with his charm domination should get 2 layer mind manip in his Azazel key (since it's backed up by an ultimate)

Milim would resist that since she's far superior to Diablo.

Michael gets 3 Layers of it
And Veldanava, Chloe and Rimuru get 3 layers resistance

Power Destruction
You can also give Power Destruction to Deviant and then go for 1 layer for Disintegration by that.

Basically deviant can seize skills by using <Separate>, but what if someone just separates skills without taking them away?
Well per deviant's description that "target" (skill), if it doesn't have physical form, vanishes into nothing. So yeh, can base it off that

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On another note, how and when are we adding that each +300k EP gives +1 layer of EE RES? (This would go into hundreds of layers for the high tiers)

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Eikichi_Sensei/Layers_EE

It needs updating, but the formula is done.

 

[Nonynho]

Thank y'all, i've put both there

 

[Nonynho]

Know what? I'm starting to disagree with myself and think we should already put every single detail and layer we got and get a huge crt

 

[Astral_Trinity439]

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Eikichi_Sensei/Layers_EE

It needs updating, but the formula is done.

Peak
Add "Ad Infinitum" to Milim tho, since her EP will Infinitely increase via Satanael. Can use 333 layers as base

As for Rimuru
His EP isn't exactly 100 million. The tensura X scan says

Estimated at 100,000,000 or higher (when Dragon-type release is解除/disabled).

How higher?

«The answer is obvious. The energy you consumed was taken into your body at one point, but it was turned into your blood and flesh and then set free viabRelease True Dragon.»

And…what does that mean?

«It means that my master’s maximum existence point value can be accurately
defined as the sum of Veldora’s and Velgrynd’s EP.»

…?!
I was forcibly stunned into silence

And that being

Name: Velgrynd (EP: 74,350,087)

Name: Veldora Tempest (EP: 88,126,579)

That is 162,476,666
Remove 400k and it becomes 162,076,666

Which is 540 layers (rounded down)
LOL

 

[Nonynho]

Absorption (not Power Absorption)
Set the baseline to Slime Intrinsic absorb skill


Since Unique Skills are above regular intrinsic skills, and Rimuru wasn't using Predator while doing it, it should go for 1 layer tbh


Alternatively, we can also use Ifrit as baseline absorption and make baseline uniques resist them, which would then still make predator 1 layer absorption since it works on other uniques

(Everything above is from Volume 1)

Later on predator merged with the intrinsic skills, thus becoming greater. It's layered cuz first Orc Lord was resisting predator, but later Rimuru succeeded





So yuh, Predator after merge gets 2 layers of absorption.

As for gluttony...

(Everything above is Volume 2)
You COULD argue layers for it considering skill evolution (like what happens with predator + intrinsic) makes it +1 layered.

So

• Intrinsic Absorb = baseline
• Predator = 1 layer
• Predator + Intrinsic merge = 2 layers
• Gluttony = Possibly 3 Layers
• Beelzebub normal = 4 layers
• Beelzebub after = 5 layers
• Azathoth = should be 6 layers since there are a ton of beings that can still resist Beelzebub, like Michael, while Azathoth is the strongest skill in existence (V19 statement)

I will address the rest one by one in each post

may i ask you to send those scans as images with the references, for me to put there?

 

[Astral_Trinity439]

Know what? I'm starting to disagree with myself and think we should already put every single detail and layer we got and get a huge crt

Kekeke
Bro's finally on the same boat

 

[Eikichi_Sensei]

Peak
Add "Ad Infinitum" to Milim tho, since her EP will Infinitely increase via Satanael. Can use 333 layers as base

As for Rimuru
His EP isn't exactly 100 million. The tensura X scan says

How higher?

And that being


That is 162,476,666
Remove 400k and it becomes 162,076,666

Which is 540 layers (rounded down)
LOL

Yes, that's why it needs updating. By the way, I have a question: we also consider the additional weapons as EP, right?

 

[Nonynho]

i'm doing my best and it's taking a long ass time, and i'm already redoing bro's work
i don't wanna take another long ass time to redo my work lol

 

[Astral_Trinity439]

Yes, that's why it needs updating. By the way, I have a question: we also consider the additional weapons as EP, right?

Yes

 

[Nonynho]

Ultimate Skills' Haxes are Layered​

Ultimate Skills resist Unique Skills. However, Ultimate Skills can counter Ultimate Skills, for example, Ultimate Skills users resist Masayuki abilities when he alters probability, but Probability Manipulation from Veldora's Ultimate Skill worked on Velgrynd who was an Ultimate Skill user herself.

• 1 layer to all Ultimate Skill abilities

And i think this is weak af, since to basically every ability we're speaking "oh, another layer for Ultimate Skills cuz they resist lalalala"

 

[Astral_Trinity439]

And i think this is weak af, since to basically every ability we're speaking "oh, another layer for Ultimate Skills cuz they resist lalalala"

Let's nuke it and get the 160~ magic hax layers for Azathoth

 

[Eikichi_Sensei]

We should also create a page for all unique abilities, since there are too many. It's better to just paste "Has ultimate ability: Resists all this" into the profiles (link to unique ability profile).

But I think one already exists?

 

[Eikichi_Sensei]

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Magic_and_Skills_(Tensei_Shitara_Slime_Datta_Ken)#Ultimate_Skills

Yes, it already exists.

Are these all of them?

 

[Astral_Trinity439]

Are these all of them?

NOT at all
These don't even make half of em.

Astral Trinity439/Ultimate Skill Resistances

all-fiction-battles.fandom.com

This has most of em, but many scans need tls sadly.

may i ask you to send those scans as images with the references, for me to put there?

V1C1

Gyazo

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V2C6

Gyazo

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V1C2

Gyazo

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V2C7

Gyazo

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V2C6

Gyazo

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V1C2

Gyazo

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V1C1

Gyazo

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[Nonynho]

Pending for Layers' page:

• All that @Astral_Trinity439 pointed out as cool reforms as images and references;
• Power Destruction and Fate Manip rewrites and scan+ref addition
• EE proper addition
  • Can i add how it is in Eikichi's blog and GG?
    

 

[Nonynho]

tls

wut?

 

[Astral_Trinity439]

wut?

= Translations ¯⁠\⁠⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠⁠/⁠¯

 

[Astral_Trinity439]

A run down list btw. -> means +1 layer

1. Absolute Zero: Velzard's fixation (baseline) -> (backed up by Gabriel) -> Cthugha
2. Absorption: Absorb -> Predator -> Predator merge -> gluttony -> usurper -> Yuuki's stealer -> Beelzebub -> Beelzebub evolved -> Void Collapse/Azathoth
3. Acausality: Ultimates -> God series ultimates -> Digital Lifeforms -> Veldanava
4. Elemental Magic (Air, Water, Fire, Earth, Light, Darkness): Normal -> backed up by a unique -> backed up by an ultimate
5. Attack Reflection: Mirror Monkey -> Michael
6. BFR -> Absorb -> Predator -> Predator Merge -> Gluttony -> Beelzebub -> Beelzebub aborbed -> Void Collapse
7. Black Hole Creation (not sure if it can even be layered): Gravity Collapse -> Quasar Break
8. Biological Manipulation: Empire's Chimera experiments -> Death Streak
9. Body Puppetry: Possession -> Manipulator
10. Causality Manipulation: Cook baseline -> Cook after adaption -> V21 adapted Cook -> Susanoo -> V23 Susanoo (guess)
11. Chaos Manipulation: Void Collapse (Pre V22) -> Void Collapse (Modified by Ciel)
12. Clairvoyance: All of Creation baseline -> Ultimate level All of Creation
13. Corrosion Inducement: Rot -> Gluttony -> Beelzebub -> Beelzebuth evolved -> Azathoth
14. Curse Manipulation: Baseline Curse Magic -> Curse of Servitude -> Lock Heart (Summoning curse) -> Sloth's curse -> Belphegor's curse -> Necrosis Bullet (can be before belephor) -> Curse of Butterfly -> Calamity Claw
15. Damage Transferal: Echo Reflection -> Heavenly Judgment (Jibriel) -> Djibriel
16. Death Manipulation: Magicule Concentration -> Sealed Veldora's aura -> One Hit Kill -> Lust -> Death Streak -> Asmodeus -> Belial -> Ivarage's subordinates aura -> Angra Manyu
17. Deconstruction: Dissolve -> Deviant -> Rapahel
18. Dimension Manipulation: Tempter -> Infinity Prison -> Azazel
19. Dream Manipulation: Charm -> Astral Body Arts
20. Durability Negation: Rimuru's Phasing -> Chaos Eater -> One-Hit Kill -> Suspended World
21. Electricity Manip: Electric Resistance -> Black Lightning -> Indra
22. Empathic Manipulation: Charm/Hero Haki -> Greed -> Chosen One -> Mammon -> Lord of Heroes
23. Existence Erasure: ...................
24. Fate Manipulation: Chaotic Fate ->Tuner -> Mood Maker -> Cook/Chaotic Fate V21 -> Susanoo -> Veldanava
25. Fear Manipulation: Baseline Aura -> Demon Lord Seed aura -> Status Effect <Fear> Demon lord haki
26. Fissionism: Deviant -> Raphael -> Ciel
27. Ice manipulation: Normal Ice magic -> White Flame -> Fixation -> Gabriel - Cthulhu

Well, that's about 1/3rd of the layers I have in mind...

 

[Nonynho]

A run down list btw. -> means +1 layer

1. Absolute Zero: Velzard's fixation (baseline) -> (backed up by Gabriel) -> Cthugha
2. Absorption: Absorb -> Predator -> Predator merge -> gluttony -> usurper -> Yuuki's stealer -> Beelzebub -> Beelzebub evolved -> Void Collapse/Azathoth
3. Acausality: Ultimates -> God series ultimates -> Digital Lifeforms -> Veldanava
4. Elemental Magic (Air, Water, Fire, Earth, Light, Darkness): Normal -> backed up by a unique -> backed up by an ultimate
5. Attack Reflection: Mirror Monkey -> Michael
6. BFR -> Absorb -> Predator -> Predator Merge -> Gluttony -> Beelzebub -> Beelzebub aborbed -> Void Collapse
7. Black Hole Creation (not sure if it can even be layered): Gravity Collapse -> Quasar Break
8. Biological Manipulation: Empire's Chimera experiments -> Death Streak
9. Body Puppetry: Possession -> Manipulator
10. Causality Manipulation: Cook baseline -> Cook after adaption -> V21 adapted Cook -> Susanoo -> V23 Susanoo (guess)
11. Chaos Manipulation: Void Collapse (Pre V22) -> Void Collapse (Modified by Ciel)
12. Clairvoyance: All of Creation baseline -> Ultimate level All of Creation
13. Corrosion Inducement: Rot -> Gluttony -> Beelzebub -> Beelzebuth evolved -> Azathoth
14. Curse Manipulation: Baseline Curse Magic -> Curse of Servitude -> Lock Heart (Summoning curse) -> Sloth's curse -> Belphegor's curse -> Necrosis Bullet (can be before belephor) -> Curse of Butterfly -> Calamity Claw
15. Damage Transferal: Echo Reflection -> Heavenly Judgment (Jibriel) -> Djibriel
16. Death Manipulation: Magicule Concentration -> Sealed Veldora's aura -> One Hit Kill -> Lust -> Death Streak -> Asmodeus -> Belial -> Ivarage's subordinates aura -> Angra Manyu
17. Deconstruction: Dissolve -> Deviant -> Rapahel
18. Dimension Manipulation: Tempter -> Infinity Prison -> Azazel
19. Dream Manipulation: Charm -> Astral Body Arts
20. Durability Negation: Rimuru's Phasing -> Chaos Eater -> One-Hit Kill -> Suspended World
21. Electricity Manip: Electric Resistance -> Black Lightning -> Indra
22. Empathic Manipulation: Charm/Hero Haki -> Greed -> Chosen One -> Mammon -> Lord of Heroes
23. Existence Erasure: ...................
24. Fate Manipulation: Chaotic Fate ->Tuner -> Mood Maker -> Cook/Chaotic Fate V21 -> Susanoo -> Veldanava
25. Fear Manipulation: Baseline Aura -> Demon Lord Seed aura -> Status Effect <Fear> Demon lord haki
26. Fissionism: Deviant -> Raphael -> Ciel
27. Ice manipulation: Normal Ice magic -> White Flame -> Fixation -> Gabriel - Cthulhu

Well, that's about 1/3rd of the layers I have in mind...

My mind got a block today so i'll resume working on it tomorrow, but if you can help me writing those out and referencing+Scanning them, it'd be massive

 

[PrimeHydra64]

Checked Translations of Tensura

vsbattles.fandom.com

Updated

 

[Eikichi_Sensei]

Fuze, your cosmology makes no sense!

vsbattles.fandom.com

I have something similar, but with GPT translation (I think I'll start using the translated scans). I also need to add the most recent scans of volumes 21, 22, and 23 . It should be finished by tomorrow.

 

[PrimeHydra64]

Fuze, your cosmology makes no sense!

vsbattles.fandom.com

I have something similar, but with GPT translation (I think I'll start using the translated scans). I also need to add the most recent scans of volumes 21, 22, and 23 . It should be finished by tomorrow.

That reminds me, what are the locations relative to other structures?

Cardinal World is at the center of everything.

Other Worlds branch off presumably around it.

The Heavenly Star Palace is kind of "above" the CW with Feldway calling the CW a "Lower World" and people "Descending" from it. And also adjacent to all worlds.
Spiritual Worlds can contain multiple Material Worlds.

Labyrinth is in subspace and is also connected to all worlds and users of space-time leap (Specifically Rimuru's version called Time Warp) can move through subspace to reach a designated time and bumping into a person can send someone to the end of time and space. (Vega moment)

Otherworld is between material and spiritual worlds and is bigger than something that could contain many worlds. It is also a semi-spiritual world that overlaps the Hell and Spirit World.

World Gap is between worlds and is maybe the Otherworld or Subspace? (I'm not sure since the Otherworld is filled with Magicules thanks to Ivarage and World Gap is said to be without Magicules and while both Subspace and World Gap have no Magicules, Subspace only had Space-Time Storm from Rimuru that had anything to differentiate from that void and World Gap obviously had Worlds).

Spirit World and Hell are Adjacent to the CW to the point that there are places where they overlap sometimes and makes it easier for being from those worlds to pier into the CW.

I am ignoring dimensions since that is a hot button topic which a tired me doesn't want to worry about.

This is just of the top of my head so things could be wrong.

But case in point, I REALLY WISH FUSE MAKES A COSMOLOGY MAP OR MAKES A NEW .5 NOVEL FOR CLARIFICATION.

 

[AlexSamDen]

The Heavenly Star Palace is kind of "above" the CW with Feldway calling the CW a "Lower World" and people "Descending" from it. And also adjacent to all worlds.
Spiritual Worlds can contain multiple Material Worlds.

Yo, I checked some shi and HSP (or the place it's in) is called "Otherworld". Maybe some isolated shi, idk

 

[Astral_Trinity439]

That reminds me, what are the locations relative to other structures?

Cardinal World is at the center of everything.

Other Worlds branch off presumably around it.

The Heavenly Star Palace is kind of "above" the CW with Feldway calling the CW a "Lower World" and people "Descending" from it. And also adjacent to all worlds.

HSP is like the origin point (0,0) that's connected to every single "world"

Spiritual Worlds can contain multiple Material Worlds.

I think that "great Spiritual world" could just be referring to the Otherworld

Labyrinth is in subspace and is also connected to all worlds and users of space-time leap (Specifically Rimuru's version called Time Warp) can move through subspace to reach a designated time and bumping into a person can send someone to the end of time and space. (Vega moment)

It's not connected to all btw, just many/countless

World Gap is between worlds and is maybe the Otherworld or Subspace? (I'm not sure since the Otherworld is filled with Magicules thanks to Ivarage and World Gap is said to be without Magicules and while both Subspace and World Gap have no Magicules, Subspace only had Space-Time Storm from Rimuru that had anything to differentiate from that void and World Gap obviously had Worlds).

Actually, world gap does have magicules since Yuuki's magic perception was working in it

Spirit World and Hell are Adjacent to the CW to the point that there are places where they overlap sometimes and makes it easier for being from those worlds to pier into the CW.

Not exactly adjacent like boxes. Also, it was said in V8.5 guidebook that spiritual world is like an invisible thing behind the material world, like a viel blocking everyone from seeing it.

But case in point, I REALLY WISH FUSE MAKES A COSMOLOGY MAP OR MAKES A NEW .5 NOVEL FOR CLARIFICATION.

True ಥ⁠‿⁠ಥ

 

[Astral_Trinity439]

Snip

Btw
I don't think basing Rimuru's EE layer on Disintegration is a good idea. That thing is based on Absolute Defense rather than sheer existence.

While when he was getting erased by Veldora, that was when he turned into slime form. At that point, like he did with orc Lord and veldora in anime while absorbing them, I don't think his Uriel would work at that point. Besides, Veldora's Faust would make it useless anyways....

I'd suggest scaling Rimuru's resistance to his own feat of erasing a fodder in Volume 10 via condensed aura, since that was simply via him gathering enough Magicules to do so, and only works on weaker guys (basically like Hakai?)

Trusting in that, I focused on my own enemy.

…Oops, but before that. Gathering my aura into my left hand, I casually hurled it at Gaiye.

That was all it took to render him into dust and erase him from this world. Stained by Maribel’s desire, he had obtained powers beyond his own, it looked like—but to me, he was just a distraction.
V10C5