Sukuna Vs Buzz Lightyear

[AbaddonTheDisappointment]

But sukuna also knows about the limitations of RCT and how sorcerers literally can't regenerate lost heads or getting choped in half

After the first or maybe the second time itadori should have been long gone

Both those shown would've been fatal to someone who didn't have RCT, Yuji says as much later. Sukuna only realized that Yuji had RCT after the second image where he was literally shown Yuji using it so from his perspective, he was basically going for kill shots with those first two, I mean hell the first image has him basically ripping off Yuji's entire side. By the third image, he was in the middle of a fight with both Yuji, Yuta, and Rika and they were all making sure none of them got hit with anything fatal and by the end of that fight Sukuna lacked the ability to fully put any of them down even with direct headshots with cleave.

 

[Delusionaltx2]

Both those shown would've been fatal to someone who didn't have RCT, Yuji says as much later. Sukuna only realized that Yuji had RCT after the second image where he was literally shown Yuji using it so from his perspective, he was basically going for kill shots with those first two, I mean hell the first image has him basically ripping off Yuji's entire side. By the third image, he was in the middle of a fight with both Yuji, Yuta, and Rika and they were all making sure none of them got hit with anything fatal and by the end of that fight Sukuna lacked the ability to fully put any of them down even with direct headshots with cleave.

But sukuna still had enough CE and output to straight up perception blitz maki way later into the fight who's supposed to be reletive to yuji and yuta so if he wasn't holding back then they shouldn't be able to react or dodge anything

 

[Mommyleona]

But sukuna also knows about the limitations of RCT and how sorcerers literally can't regenerate lost heads or getting choped in half

After the first or maybe the second time itadori should have been long gone

"should've been" nuh uh
Yuji is HIM

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

But sukuna still had enough CE and output to straight up perception blitz maki way later into the fight who's supposed to be reletive to yuji and yuta so if he wasn't holding back then they shouldn't be able to react or dodge anything

Sukuna's CE varies depending on how hyped he is or something, so he couldn't blitz Yuji whenever he wanted I think

 

[Delusionaltx2]

Sukuna's CE varies depending on how hyped he is or something, so he couldn't blitz Yuji whenever he wanted I think

But against maho he was intrigued it could deflect his attacks and still pivoted to CTC anyway

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Buzz isn't deflecting it, he is either tanking it or getting erased by WSD

 

[Delusionaltx2]

Buzz isn't deflecting it, he is either tanking it or getting erased by WSD

i'm reffering to shrine which buzz is 100% tanking with tier 1 stats

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

i'm reffering to shrine which buzz is 100% tanking with tier 1 stats

No heat resistance?

 

[Delusionaltx2]

No heat resistance?

thats fuga which he also never leads with

that said the idea of sukuna just dura negging buzz with heat hax is kinda funny

 

[Mommyleona]

thats fuga which he also never leads with

that said the idea of sukuna just dura negging buzz with heat hax is kinda funny

dismantle dont work -> wcs
or domain + fuga
or he can also hold him in place with Shikigami, then do the above
Sukuna is NOT dumb okay

 

[Mommyleona]

voting Sukuna fra
he has more things going for him

 

[Bobsican]

Fire Manip is not hax tho, it doesn't truly ignore durability, and in fact temperature stuff is a common way to determine physical stats like AP, an exception would be if the ability can directly induce such temperature state on the target over merely hitting them with it, but I don't see Temperature Manip anywhere in the profile for this sort of claim.

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

If Sukuna lands his attacks, Buzz literally is a toy and can act with his pieces broken unless he is completely destroyed with resistance to pain and inmortality type 2

The range difference is his main win con to be honest, he can just run away and kite all day

 

[TheKingStrategist13]

we doing this AGAIN?

 

[Bobsican]

we doing this AGAIN?

Yup, the arguments seem rather different from the Gojo Vs Woody match at least

 

[Mickey1940]

does Sukuna even have time to say WCS's incantation before Buzz just shoots a laser at his head

 

[Mbpoops]

Theoretically… could mahoraga adapt to buzz?

 

[Mickey1940]

Theoretically… could mahoraga adapt to buzz?

no

Mahoraga gets 1 shot before anything happens

if Sukuna takes the brunt of the adaptation that just means he's taking hits so Sukuna dies anyways

 

[Mommyleona]

does Sukuna even have time to say WCS's incantation before Buzz just shoots a laser at his head

Mahoraga has conditionless wcs btw.

 

[Mickey1940]

Mahoraga has conditionless wcs btw.

this is post Gojo fight Sukuna?

 

[Mommyleona]

this is post Gojo fight Sukuna?

Op said sba so strongest version so uhh idk

 

[Bobsican]

That'd be the case unless there's some even stronger version, yeah.

 

[LaserPrecision]

If Sukuna lands his attacks, Buzz literally is a toy and can act with his pieces broken unless he is completely destroyed with resistance to pain and inmortality type 2

Buzz is tiny, and WCS width would completely swallow him:

He can also cut people up into tiny meat-chunks with WCS if he wants. But a standard WCS will do.

 

[Mommyleona]

That'd be the case unless there's some even stronger version, yeah.

Well if Sukuna has Mahoraga who has conditionless WCS here, then this becomes much easier for Sukuna to win.

He can also cut people up into tiny meat-chunks with WCS if he wants

No

 

[Mbpoops]

i mean i guess buzz right? sukuna cant really damage him

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

No

I think he refer when Sukuna Waffle'd Kashimo

 

[Bobsican]

TBH now the question is if WCS is proportionately faster than a laser.

 

[LaserPrecision]

No

WCS is just Dismantle. Why would he not be able to launch his WCS the same way he can Dismantle when it's just Dismantle with an extended target?

 

[MannyQ361]

Well early into the match he may not expect much from Buzz's laser.

 

[LaserPrecision]

TBH now the question is if WCS is proportionately faster than a laser.

WCS would just erase the laser via space cutting. Same way he cut Kashimo's attack here:

Buzz is tiny, and WCS width would completely swallow him:

He can also cut people up into tiny meat-chunks with WCS if he wants. But a standard WCS will do.

 

[Mommyleona]

i mean i guess buzz right? sukuna cant really damage him

Humble World Cutting Slash

I think he refer when Sukuna Waffle'd Kashimo

Yea, it is not wcs

WCS is just Dismantle. Why would he not be able to launch his WCS the same way he can Dismantle when it's just Dismantle with an extended target?

Because it's different clearly. Everytime he casts wcs it's shown to be identical, big slash, and always shown Sukuna chanting and pointing. None of those are true for what happened Kashimo.
Look at the art! Look at the visual portrayal!!

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Even if Buzz kills Sukuna, he would come back as a curse in 2 days

TBH now the question is if WCS is proportionately faster than a laser.

Currently (Currently) accepted as FTL+

 

[Mickey1940]

WCS would just erase the laser via space cutting. Same way he cut Kashimo's attack here:

Why would he resort to spacial cutting as his opening move?

By the time he realizes how dangerous Buzz is, Buzz just lasers him in the head

 

[Bobsican]

Even if Buzz kills Sukuna, he would come back as a curse in 2 days

That'd still work for the purposes of the match as the win condition only demands death for at least 24 hours or so (currently, in intent at least, if we get pedantic dying at all would net a loss).

 

[LaserPrecision]

Why would he resort to spacial cutting as his opening move?

By the time he realizes how dangerous Buzz is, Buzz just lasers him in the head

He wouldn't. But he'd use it quickly after realizing his opening move (Dismantle) does literally zero damage whatsoever. Not even the smallest of scratches.

Plus, Buzz's laser is avoidable. In the link above someone easily jumped in the way of it after it was fired.

 

[Mbpoops]

But can sukuna’s slashes even yk.. damage buzz?

 

[Mommyleona]

Why would he resort to spacial cutting as his opening move?

By the time he realizes how dangerous Buzz is, Buzz just lasers him in the head

All it takes is like 1 dismantle to understand buzz is pretty dangerous. And did you even read what i said above? Sukuna spams wcs against folks who he doesn't even need to do AT ALL
He doesn't resort to it, he just uses it casually.

 

[LaserPrecision]

But can sukuna’s slashes even yk.. damage buzz?

Not Dismantle, but world Cutting Slash is dura-neg space cutting.

 

[Bobsican]

Plus, Buzz's laser is avoidable. In the link above someone easily jumped in the way of it after it was fired.

Watching it frame by frame it's evident aim blocking, aka, Goofy was in the path of the laser to block it before it was actually fired, so that wouldn't count for that sort of claim.

 

[Hecky2222]

All it takes is like 1 dismantle to understand buzz is pretty dangerous. And did you even read what i said above? Sukuna spams wcs against folks who he doesn't even need to do AT ALL
He doesn't resort to it, he just uses it casually.

thats if Buzz is extremely dumb and won't oneshot Sukuna after dismantle. so 50/50% chance