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Gojo Vs Woody

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LaserPrecision said:
I'm pretty sure SBA added a rule that the civilians have no influence over the match. Like they're effectively zombies and won't affect someone negatively in a way that gives them an inherent disadvantage.
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May you quote it please? I can't find it here.
 
Mickey1940 said:
ok but

if it's Woody vs Nanook

or any other honkai character

they can just hax him probably

or at the very least stop him from getting close

like Nanook and other aeons are MASSIVE and other Honkai characters have massive range
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Nanook has 12-D HDE like ALL of the Aeons this doesn't even work 😭 Also Woody FRA
 
shut up gojo, i'll kill you
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Grace period has passed and I've added the match to the profiles, this thread can be closed.
 
yall really looked at the matchup between the Low 1-C and the High 7-C character and said, "yeah, this isn't a stomp" 💀
 
Still disappointed how no one addressed that being able to bypass Infinity with speed isn't an ability, and thus wouldn't be carried over to speed equal 😔
 
LaserPrecision said:
Still disappointed how no one addressed that being able to bypass Infinity with speed isn't an ability, and thus wouldn't be carried over to speed equal 😔
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It'd be in the same way that evading passive abilities with immeasurable speed would be, a thread mod may want to confirm before closing the thread.
 
Bobsican said:
It'd be in the same way that evading passive abilities with immeasurable speed would be, a thread mod may want to confirm before closing the thread.
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Yeah, that's not an ability. That's just a result of speed. If speed was unequalized, that'd work, obviously. Speed is equalized, so that wouldn't work anymore. It would only work if they had space and time hax via running, and not just infinite/immeasurable speed (Like how Sonic has space-time restoration via running)
 
Ahem, the reason that's part of the guidelines in the Speed Equalization guidelines comes from this bit in the VS thread rules:

It is not fine to restrict abilities in a versus matchup, implicitly or expressly. Matches that are arranged this way should not be added to the character profiles, as they don't involve their full potential, and are only intended for casual entertainment.
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Denying Woody the ability to bypass Infinity would implicitly be restricting the capability he'd normally have to do that, which'd reach beyond the exception granted for Speed Equalization as it'd go beyond the spirit of the intent of Speed Equalization.
 
I mean, taken right from the Versus Thread Rules Page, the section regarding speed equalization rules,

Abilities based on speed are assumed to be retained. Characters that can run over water via speed can, for example, still do so even if now technically too slow for that. Likewise, a character who can create a tornado by running fast in a circle can still create one in this manner, even though they are now running slower.

As a result, Immeasurable characters that get speed equalized retain their ability to travel through time, even if it now isn't via speed anymore.
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There's precedent that even if a character is slowed down, traits granted to them via their speed that is normally only possible through speed would still be granted. Even though a character may be slowed down, if they can bypass the time axis through their speed, they keep that innate ability to move through said axis. I would assume that a similar logic would apply in this situation, where even though the character is slower than the speed that gave them the ability, for fairness sake one would still let them retain the ability to bypass Gojo's ability here. Saying it applies to Time-Related things but not Space-Related one's seems questionably arbitrary.

Though I'm sure a Moderator would have a better grasp on the semantics on these rules.
 
TheKingStrategist13 said:
There's precedent that even if a character is slowed down, traits granted to them via their speed that is normally only possible through speed would still be granted. Even though a character may be slowed down, if they can bypass the time axis through their speed, they keep that innate ability to move through said axis. I would assume that a similar logic would apply in this situation, where even though the character is slower than the speed that gave them the ability, for fairness sake one would still let them retain the ability to bypass Gojo's ability here. Saying it applies to Time-Related things but not Space-Related one's seems questionably arbitrary.

Though I'm sure a Moderator would have a better grasp on the semantics on these rules.
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I addressed this already. Infinite speed isn't an ability. It's speed. Running on water is surface scaling, making a tornado is wind manipulation. Those are abilities attributed to those character's speed. Crossing an infinite distance isn't an ability. It would be different if someone had accurate light speed where space is compressed infinitely, and thus could bypass Infinity. That would be spatial manipulation via speed. Meaning even if they were slowed down, it would still be assumed to work.

I didn't say it was limited to time stuff. I even used Sonic restoring SPACE time as an example.
Bobsican said:
Except that the votes are based already on Woody bypassing Infinity, as that much was already determined rather fairly on in the discussion.
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Yeah, I get that. And when I addressed it earlier, no one replied to it until after the match was over so this discussion wouldn't happen to invalidate the match.
 
Eh, TBH it'd depend on what a thread mod or higher thinks of the matter if you're going to still insist on the same premise regardless of the arguments provided, but ultimately it's evident that more users disagree with you on this regard.
 
Bobsican said:
Eh, TBH it'd depend on what a thread mod or higher thinks of the matter if you're going to still insist on the same premise regardless of the arguments provided, but ultimately it's evident that more users disagree with you on this regard.
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I wouldn't have persisted as much if people didn't address me until AFTER the match-up concluded. But people always do this to me, I don't know if it's just bad luck, people immediately unviewing the thread after commenting, or people ignoring me or what, but it gets obnoxious after a while.

I would say get a thread mod yes. I do think Woody wouldn't have the ability to bypass Infinity, and this wouldn't be able to be added because Woody can't win due to speed equal rules which as stated on the speed equal page disqualifies a match from being added.
 
crazy spite as if this match isn't hydrogen baby vs crying bomb
 
KingTempest said:
crazy spite as if this match isn't hydrogen baby vs crying bomb
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Hey, while you're here, can you please comment on whether Infinite Speed still enables to bypass Gojo's Infinity while Speed is Equalized? The conversation on that starts here if you'd want to evaluate further, but the overall consensus relies on some mod comment to settle this.
 
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