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Introduction
Novel Kars (JORGE JOESTAR) is currently classified as Low 2-C, a tier that fundamentally assumes a character whose existence and effective scope are restricted to a single space-time continuum.
This classification does not withstand scrutiny when Novel Kars’ canonical nature, feats, and mode of existence are examined in detail. The issue is not a lack of destructive output, but a misinterpretation of what Low 2-C represents ontologically.
This thread argues that Low 2-C is categorically incompatible with Novel Kars, and that a Multiversal rating is the minimum coherent placement.
What Low 2-C Implies Ontologically
Low 2-C characters are bound to a single universe and its timeline. Even if time travel exists within that setting, the character’s existence is still causally anchored to one continuous space-time structure.
Such characters may affect the timeline, but they do not exist independently of it. If the timeline is erased, overwritten, or invalidated, the character ceases to exist unless explicitly protected by multiversal mechanics.
However, Kars was not affected by Dio killing him in the past.
Therefore, a Low 2-C rating requires dependence on a single universal framework.
Novel Kars does not meet this requirement.
Multiversal Identity Through Parallel Self Integration
Novel Kars is not a single-universe individual who merely travels between worlds. He is a composite being formed through the absorption and integration of multiple parallel versions of himself.
Absorbed multiple parallel versions of himself originating from different universes.
These are not projections, simulations, or temporary manifestations. They are fully realized alternate selves originating from distinct parallel universes, whose souls are merged into one continuous identity.
This establishes that Novel Kars’ existence is not localized. His identity is distributed across multiple universes simultaneously and unified into a single being.
A character whose self is constituted by multiple parallel-universe instances cannot logically be confined to a single space-time continuum.
This alone invalidates a Low 2-C classification.
Canon evidence:
JORGE JOESTAR Chapter 16: Beyond II
Independence from Single-Timeline Causality
Novel Kars demonstrates explicit immunity to timeline-based erasure and causal interference. Attempts to eliminate him by altering the past, overwriting events, or disrupting causal continuity fail to remove him from existence.It has been clearly stated that Kars has Acausality (Type 1)
Kars was unaffected by the time manipulation from Dio Brando.
Under VSBW standards, this is a key indicator of non-reliance on a single temporal axis. Characters classified as Low 2-C are erased when their originating timeline is invalidated unless specific multiversal protections are shown.
Novel Kars does not require such protection. His continued existence across altered or reset timelines indicates that his being is not anchored to one continuous space-time history.
This directly contradicts the ontological assumptions of Low 2-C.
This demonstrates that Kars operates independently of standard timeline causality, as time-based interference and temporal overwriting do not negate his continued existence.
Persistence Across Repeated World Resets
Throughout the narrative, the world state undergoes repeated large-scale resets affecting events, causality, and continuity. Novel Kars persists through these resets with retained identity, memory, and accumulated existence. Kars persists through repeated universe resets caused by Made in Heaven Ultimate Requiem.
These prove that there are multiple resets, Kars protects his memory and identity across the resets, and that he is free from the original timeline and does not have to stick to it. This alone showcases that he is not forcefully connected to one singular continuum/universe, but more likely to affect multiverses, and dimensions probably with D4C Ultimate.
Kars is able to revert and fix multiple universes. (Multiversal level feat, which equals to at least 2-B, however, regarding his infinite stamina, this feat can scale up to 2-A.)
Kars being able to reset multiple universes with Killer Queen.
This persistence is not framed as resistance to damage, but as continuity of self across iterations of reality.
Original information about D4C ULTIMATE.
From a tiering perspective, this demonstrates that Novel Kars does not merely survive within a universe, but exists across multiple iterations of universal structure. Such behavior is incompatible with a single-universe classification.
Infinite Stamina and Non-Conditional Multiversal Scope
-VSBW Original quote from "Powers and Abilites" section in Novel Kars' page. This statistic was stated aswell in the light novel itself.
Novel Kars is explicitly described as possessing infinite stamina. While stamina alone does not determine attack potency, it is relevant for assessing whether a character’s large-scale actions are conditional or limited.
In this case, infinite stamina removes any temporal or energetic restriction on Novel Kars’ multiversal interactions. His persistence, adaptation, and interaction with parallel realities are not constrained by duration, exhaustion, or resource depletion.
This confirms that Novel Kars’ multiversal presence is not temporary or situational, but permanent and self-sustaining.
Final Tier Assessment
Based on the currently available canonical evidence, Novel Kars’ portrayal is incompatible with a Low 2-C classification and clearly exceeds the scope of a single space-time continuum.
His existence is intrinsically multiversal, composed of multiple parallel-universe instances unified into a single identity. His abilities involve inherent interaction with parallel realities, independence from single-timeline causality, persistence across repeated resets of world state, and the absence of temporal or energetic limitations due to infinite stamina.
-VSBW Original quote from "Powers and Abilites" section in Novel Kars' page.
These factors collectively satisfy the criteria for Tier 2-A (Multiversal+) under VSBW standards.
Additionally, certain narrative elements raise the possibility of a higher-tier interpretation. Novel Kars demonstrates persistent existence across repeated world and narrative resets, immunity to causality-based erasure, and continuity beyond conventional temporal frameworks. These traits may suggest a form of qualitative superiority over multiversal structures rather than mere quantitative scale.
However, the source material does not provide explicit evidence of higher-dimensional transcendence or a clearly defined superior ontological layer beyond the multiverse itself. As such, a Tier 1-C classification cannot be asserted definitively under current evidentiary standards.
Therefore, the most accurate and defensible placement is:
-Tier 2-A, possibly Low 1-C
with the Low 1-C qualifier reflecting interpretative potential rather than established higher-dimensional proof.
Extra Information: Parallel Worlds and Multiple Kars
This is yet another prove for ontology, however this also means there are multiple Kars and that they got "absorbed/merged into a body."
You can check out this wiki statement for D4C Ultimate and the link above for more information about Kars' dimensional hopping.
-Kars is aware of and actively exploits singularities across universes, demonstrating meta-level interaction with multiversal structure rather than passive existence within it.
-This tier proposal is based on existential scope rather than destructive output, which is explicitly permitted under VSBW tiering rules.
Notes and Additional Information Regarding Tiering and Novel Kars
Even without relying on a specific number, the narrative explicitly establishes that Novel Kars integrates multiple parallel versions of himself and retains continuity across timelines. The argument does not hinge on quantity, but on ontological structure.The argument for a Multiversal tier does not rely on raw destructive output. Novel Kars’ placement is based on the ontological scope of his existence, not on a single instance of large-scale destruction. This is consistent with VSBW standards, which allow tiering based on existential structure rather than attack potency alone.
References to multiple parallel selves should not be interpreted as simple summoning or alternate timeline travel. The narrative consistently frames these instances as ontologically real counterparts, whose integration results in a unified identity rather than temporary coexistence.
While some sources mention a specific number of alternate selves, the tiering argument does not depend on a fixed quantity. The critical point is the confirmed existence of more than one parallel instance and the permanent integration of such instances into a single being.
D4C Ultimate is treated in the narrative as a spiritual manifestation derived from Kars’ soul, rather than an external Stand granted independently. As such, its multiversal interaction properties are considered intrinsic to Kars’ existence rather than situational abilities.
Novel Kars’ resistance to time travel and causality-based erasure should not be confused with standard time resistance. His continued existence across altered or reset timelines implies non-dependence on a single temporal axis, which is relevant for tiering even in the absence of explicit higher-dimensional statements.
Infinite stamina is not presented as a justification for increased attack potency. Its relevance lies in the fact that it removes temporal and energetic constraints, confirming that Kars’ multiversal interactions are not temporary, conditional, or resource-limited.
The “possibly Low 1-C” qualifier is included to acknowledge interpretative elements related to narrative persistence and repeated world resets. It is not intended as a definitive higher-dimensional claim, but as a conditional note reflecting unresolved cosmological implications.
No claims are made regarding Outerversal, Tier 1-A, or absolute higher-dimensional transcendence, as the source material does not explicitly establish such a framework. This thread intentionally limits its scope to what can be reasonably supported under current VSBW evidentiary standards.
This proposed tier revision aims to correct an underestimation rather than to maximize placement. The emphasis is on consistency with canonical portrayal, not on speculative scaling.
Even though "36 different universes" and "36 different Kars" was stated in the novel, I wanted to add this as a note for more transparency/clarity. Some sources ( including the novel) interpret the 36 loops as corresponding to parallel selves, however the argument does not rely on a fixed number.
Additional Information for Novel Kars:
1) The Entire Novel Summarized and Explained
2)D4C Ultimate, Made In Heaven Ultimate Requiem , The World Ultimate , U Boat Ultimate ( Das Boot Ultimate) , Killer Queen , White Snake Ultimate , Dune Ultimate , C Moon Ultimate Requiem. (Kars' Stands, he can create more but yeah these were the only ones shown and important)
3)Entire Novel: Jorge Joestar
also the difference between dimensions is quantitative not qualitative
