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All Purpose Dragon Ball Thread

Why in manga universe isn't infinite?
Dude, can you explain me why manga isn't infinite, when toei is? This doesn't even make sense
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Give it up, atp. It took a very long time for the Toeiverse to get infinite. Goku traveling otherworld was MFTL+ for the longest time
 
No please don't
What I mean is, logically there are tons of guys who even claim to be avatars while playing Nintendo 3DS games, then we see guys talking about manga games as a way of seeing the Dragon Ball world and interacting with it. I mean, there are top-tier characters with less valid justifications.
 
We can upgrade Dragon Ball Heroes Charisma Mission to 1A. I mean, I saw this: Dragon Mission seems to meet the standard, especially Toribot. https://character-stats-and-profile...ibattery1/Dragon_Ball_Heroes_hierarchy_redone


In Victory Mission Beat was more shocked that the Shadow Dragons reached his world than he was with them threatning the DBH multiverse, implying affecting his world is more impressive. (DBH Victory Mission manga.)
Anti-Feat, so no 1-A

Anti-feat, so no 1-A

Not to mention that just seeing something as a game is not immediately 1-A, especially given the anti-feats DB has like Beat's world "seeing the main universe as a game" yet it only implying an alternate timeline.
 
I think you skipped, I don't know if intentionally, the Charisma Mission part where it's specifically not an alternate timeline. We see characters grabbing superheroes like Manga ficción , presenting trivia about this, stating that the game's only way to interact, and we see gods and demons explicitly confirmed as player avatars while playing as 3DS heroes, and even they seem unreal to Toribot. This is speaking specifically about Charisma Mission.
" yet it only implying an alternate timeline.
 
I think you skipped, I don't know if intentionally, the Charisma Mission part where it's specifically not an alternate timeline. We see characters grabbing superheroes like Manga ficción , presenting trivia about this, stating that the game's only way to interact, and we see gods and demons explicitly confirmed as player avatars while playing as 3DS heroes, and even they seem unreal to Toribot. This is speaking specifically about Charisma Mission.
Beat's world is acknowledged to be the future version of Xeno Goku World. The future of their timeline.

Needing avatars to interact with other timelines is not 1-A, specially with many antifeats of characters that are supposedly fictional accessing the real world by themselves.
 
Anti-Feat, so no 1-A


Anti-feat, so no 1-A

Not to mention that just seeing something as a game is not immediately 1-A, especially given the anti-feats DB has like Beat's world "seeing the main universe as a game" yet it only implying an alternate timeline.
Why it should be an anti-feat when it's important for a character to transcend his plane of existence to get in the world that sees him as fiction? I know that simultations aren't r>f but Tori-Bot exist in Charisma world and he sees DB world as fiction, he has full contorl over it and without him it can't even exist.
 
Beat's world is acknowledged to be the future version of Xeno Goku World. The future of their timeline.

Needing avatars to interact with other timelines is not 1-A, specially with many antifeats of characters that are supposedly fictional accessing the real world by themselves.
I repeat, I'm talking about the manga Super Dragon Ball Heroes: Ultimate Charisma Mission! which literally portrays as fiction and unreal. They're playing a game, looking at manga panels, and Chamel appears and clearly says
that he's an avatar of a demon god while playing Super Dragon Ball Heroes.
Remember, Super Dragon Ball Heroes: Ultimate Charisma Mission!
This directly portrays Beat World as fiction.
 
Why it should be an anti-feat when it's important for a character to transcend his plane of existence to get in the world that sees him as fiction?
Read here
I know that simultations aren't r>f but Tori-Bot exist in Charisma world and he sees DB world as fiction, he has full contorl over it and without him it can't even exist.
Problem is, if part A of the cosmology seeing part B as fiction/game/manga/whatever doesn't imply qualitative superiority but an alternate timeline in-verse (as seen in the examples where it doesn't), then you'd need extra proof that it does on that specific case
 
Why it should be an anti-feat when it's important for a character to transcend his plane of existence to get in the world that sees him as fiction? I know that simultations aren't r>f but Tori-Bot exist in Charisma world and he sees DB world as fiction, he has full contorl over it and without him it can't even exist.
There are several examples of manga characters watching fiction and even Chamel is called an avatar
 
Didn't Demigra used some kind of power source to do that? Maybe other guys also could used it. Also if Tori-Bot is 1-A and can full control over DB characters, then he could gave them power to do so " a non-1-A can be empowered by a higher entity into being able to influence things on a qualitatively superior level."?
 
Didn't Demigra used some kind of power source to do that?
Time power, I think? I don't really know. But as long as the power comes from the fictional world (or if the power came from the real world but he tapped into it from the fictional world all by himself) then it's an anti-feat.
Maybe other guys also could used it. Also if Tori-Bot is 1-A and can full control over DB characters, then he could gave them power to do so " a non-1-A can be empowered by a higher entity into being able to influence things on a qualitatively superior level."?
You're gonna have to ask to a staff about this one, because I honestly don't know what to tell you. Though I personally doubt having an author entity that controls the plot makes all anti-feats invalid because they are the one who create the plot. But as I said, better ask a knowledgeable staff about this
 
People are really confusing beats world with the charisma world, when they are different worlds...
The beats world doesn't have a hope in this wiki, and it's been debated like a million times now so..
 
does anyone know why lifting strength doesn’t get a quantifiable multiplier from transformations?
It should, given the feat in Buu Saga where base Goku almost couldn't lift 40 tons but SSJ Goku could do so easily

That being said, I think it was argued on this thread that it can't because otherwise you'd just get people downscaling from the highest LS feat and you'd end up with below average LS due to how bad Dragon Ball lifting strength feats are
 
It should, given the feat in Buu Saga where base Goku almost couldn't lift 40 tons but SSJ Goku could do so easily

That being said, I think it was argued on this thread that it can't because otherwise you'd just get people downscaling from the highest LS feat and you'd end up with below average LS due to how bad Dragon Ball lifting strength feats are
Transformations multpilie strenght, but they don't multiplie strenght:cool:
 
It should, given the feat in Buu Saga where base Goku almost couldn't lift 40 tons but SSJ Goku could do so easily

That being said, I think it was argued on this thread that it can't because otherwise you'd just get people downscaling from the highest LS feat and you'd end up with below average LS due to how bad Dragon Ball lifting strength feats are
LS Blog but, due to Multipliers, early dragon ball gets below average LS would kinda be funny.
Not at all good but hella funny
 
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