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Something something edge and center of universe stuff.Dude, can you explain me why manga isn't infinite, when toei is? This doesn't even make sense
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Something something edge and center of universe stuff.Dude, can you explain me why manga isn't infinite, when toei is? This doesn't even make sense
Why in manga universe isn't infinite?
Dude, can you explain me why manga isn't infinite, when toei is? This doesn't even make sense
But it doesn't differ from manga...![]()
Give it up, atp. It took a very long time for the Toeiverse to get infinite. Goku traveling otherworld was MFTL+ for the longest time
A lot of the scans didnt work for me (the discord ones) maybe cus mobile idkWe can upgrade Dragon Ball Heroes Charisma Mission to 1A. I mean, I saw this: Dragon Mission seems to meet the standard, especially Toribot. https://character-stats-and-profile...ibattery1/Dragon_Ball_Heroes_hierarchy_redone
No please don'tWe can upgrade Dragon Ball Heroes Charisma Mission to 1A. I mean, I saw this: Dragon Mission seems to meet the standard, especially Toribot. https://character-stats-and-profile...ibattery1/Dragon_Ball_Heroes_hierarchy_redone
What I mean is, logically there are tons of guys who even claim to be avatars while playing Nintendo 3DS games, then we see guys talking about manga games as a way of seeing the Dragon Ball world and interacting with it. I mean, there are top-tier characters with less valid justifications.No please don't
We can upgrade Dragon Ball Heroes Charisma Mission to 1A. I mean, I saw this: Dragon Mission seems to meet the standard, especially Toribot. https://character-stats-and-profile...ibattery1/Dragon_Ball_Heroes_hierarchy_redone
Anti-Feat, so no 1-AIn Victory Mission Beat was more shocked that the Shadow Dragons reached his world than he was with them threatning the DBH multiverse, implying affecting his world is more impressive. (DBH Victory Mission manga.)
Anti-feat, so no 1-A
" yet it only implying an alternate timeline.
Beat's world is acknowledged to be the future version of Xeno Goku World. The future of their timeline.I think you skipped, I don't know if intentionally, the Charisma Mission part where it's specifically not an alternate timeline. We see characters grabbing superheroes like Manga ficción , presenting trivia about this, stating that the game's only way to interact, and we see gods and demons explicitly confirmed as player avatars while playing as 3DS heroes, and even they seem unreal to Toribot. This is speaking specifically about Charisma Mission.
Why it should be an anti-feat when it's important for a character to transcend his plane of existence to get in the world that sees him as fiction? I know that simultations aren't r>f but Tori-Bot exist in Charisma world and he sees DB world as fiction, he has full contorl over it and without him it can't even exist.Anti-Feat, so no 1-A
Anti-feat, so no 1-A
Not to mention that just seeing something as a game is not immediately 1-A, especially given the anti-feats DB has like Beat's world "seeing the main universe as a game" yet it only implying an alternate timeline.
For Beat's World it's 50/50, btw I can't see your scans
I repeat, I'm talking about the manga Super Dragon Ball Heroes: Ultimate Charisma Mission! which literally portrays as fiction and unreal. They're playing a game, looking at manga panels, and Chamel appears and clearly says
Read hereWhy it should be an anti-feat when it's important for a character to transcend his plane of existence to get in the world that sees him as fiction?
Problem is, if part A of the cosmology seeing part B as fiction/game/manga/whatever doesn't imply qualitative superiority but an alternate timeline in-verse (as seen in the examples where it doesn't), then you'd need extra proof that it does on that specific caseI know that simultations aren't r>f but Tori-Bot exist in Charisma world and he sees DB world as fiction, he has full contorl over it and without him it can't even exist.
There are several examples of manga characters watching fiction and even Chamel is called an avatarWhy it should be an anti-feat when it's important for a character to transcend his plane of existence to get in the world that sees him as fiction? I know that simultations aren't r>f but Tori-Bot exist in Charisma world and he sees DB world as fiction, he has full contorl over it and without him it can't even exist.
Uh, no, Super Dragon Ball Heroes: Ultimate Charisma Mission! isn't the same world as Beat!; they're actually treated as different worlds. Or could I elaborate more on this?Beat's World =/= Charisma World & "True" Real World, just saying
I literally said that they weren't the same world.......Uh, no, Super Dragon Ball Heroes: Ultimate Charisma Mission! isn't the same world as Beat!; they're actually treated as different worlds. Or could I elaborate more on this?
I literally said that they weren't the same world.......
English isn't my native language, so...? And the fact that you skipped the part of my comment that specifically mentioned Super Dragon Ball Heroes: Ultimate Charisma Mission! speaks volumes about your poor reading comprehension.Dragon Ball fans vs reading comprehension
Oh, I'm so sorry, English isn't my native language.
I'm just joking, man. There is no need to take it serious.English isn't my native language, so...? And the fact that you skipped the part of my comment that specifically mentioned Super Dragon Ball Heroes: Ultimate Charisma Mission! speaks volumes about your poor reading comprehension.
Didn't Demigra used some kind of power source to do that? Maybe other guys also could used it. Also if Tori-Bot is 1-A and can full control over DB characters, then he could gave them power to do so " a non-1-A can be empowered by a higher entity into being able to influence things on a qualitatively superior level."?
This should workFor Beat's World it's 50/50, btw I can't see your scans
Time power, I think? I don't really know. But as long as the power comes from the fictional world (or if the power came from the real world but he tapped into it from the fictional world all by himself) then it's an anti-feat.Didn't Demigra used some kind of power source to do that?
You're gonna have to ask to a staff about this one, because I honestly don't know what to tell you. Though I personally doubt having an author entity that controls the plot makes all anti-feats invalid because they are the one who create the plot. But as I said, better ask a knowledgeable staff about thisMaybe other guys also could used it. Also if Tori-Bot is 1-A and can full control over DB characters, then he could gave them power to do so " a non-1-A can be empowered by a higher entity into being able to influence things on a qualitatively superior level."?
No, just Dark KiDidn't Demigra used some kind of power source to do that?
That's the Beat world, which isn't the same world as Charisma Mission, and the latter is hierarchically above the Beat world
It should, given the feat in Buu Saga where base Goku almost couldn't lift 40 tons but SSJ Goku could do so easilydoes anyone know why lifting strength doesn’t get a quantifiable multiplier from transformations?
Transformations multpilie strenght, but they don't multiplie strenghtIt should, given the feat in Buu Saga where base Goku almost couldn't lift 40 tons but SSJ Goku could do so easily
That being said, I think it was argued on this thread that it can't because otherwise you'd just get people downscaling from the highest LS feat and you'd end up with below average LS due to how bad Dragon Ball lifting strength feats are
LS Blog but, due to Multipliers, early dragon ball gets below average LS would kinda be funny.It should, given the feat in Buu Saga where base Goku almost couldn't lift 40 tons but SSJ Goku could do so easily
That being said, I think it was argued on this thread that it can't because otherwise you'd just get people downscaling from the highest LS feat and you'd end up with below average LS due to how bad Dragon Ball lifting strength feats are
I'll try my hand at making a LS Blog for the sake of it later and post the sandbox here.why not have them upscale from other ls feats if downscaling would put them below average human strength