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Immeasurable Speed Honkai is the greatest Psyop of All Time

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Nighting4l33yes said:
I disagree with the Aeon downgrade. But if it passes, Omnipresence should be considered for all of them. There's a strong case for it.
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I agree with this. I personally think aeons at least should keep THEIR immeasurable. Everyone else downgrade is fine though im iffy on kiana kevin and maybe otto
 
Mbpoops said:
I agree with this. I personally think aeons at least should keep THEIR immeasurable. Everyone else downgrade is fine though im iffy on kiana kevin and maybe otto
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Can you point out which part of that implies Immeasurable?

Nighting4l33yes said:
Aeons are concepts and mechanisms of the Tree. HooH was embedded into it and is actively monitoring everything within it. The fact that their gaze can also fall upon anyone, at any time, in any place should also be indicative that their sight and presence are everywhere no?
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HooH can keep omnipresence. I never argued against that.

But only HooH has that.

Also someone being able to gaze anyone in the cosmos is just basic cosmic awareness.
 
Super_Nova said:
Bro is literally shameless 😭
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Nah it just feels weird to me that nanook is the same speed as welt 😭 other than that theres not much to argue unless you say aeons can travel time for being jn img space but again thats just a property of img space and finality
 
Super_Nova said:
Can you point out which part of that implies Immeasurable?


HooH can keep omnipresence. I never argued against that.

But only HooH has that.

Also someone being able to gaze anyone in the cosmos is just basic cosmic awareness.
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It's not just HooH though. It's all of them. There's no indication whatsoever that any Aeon is lesser or greater than another in any aspect. Only their age. If HooH was superior, they'd have been able to prevent Polka, who was working under Nous' guidance, from killing Rubert. It is cosmic awareness but everytime their gaze falls upon something, they are shown to be present there as well. Nanook or their avatar was present when their gaze fell again on Phainon at the end of 3.4 too.
 
Nighting4l33yes said:
It's not just HooH though. It's all of them. There's no indication whatsoever that any Aeon is lesser or greater than another in any aspect. Only their age. If HooH was superior, they'd have been able to prevent Polka, who was working under Nous' guidance, from killing Rubert. It is cosmic awareness but everytime their gaze falls upon something, they are shown to be present there as well. Nanook or their avatar was present when their gaze fell again on Phainon at the end of 3.4 too.
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That’s not omnipresence. Being capable of appearing somewhere or teleporting is a given for an Aeon. And Nanook was in Path Space there (his true body) which Phainon went and hurt.

HooH has it because he’s dissolved into reality. But other than that, all Aeons have are cosmic awareness and range. And require absolutely nothing else in order to do what they do.
 
Wouldnt the fact tazzy only affected 2/3 of the universe with the propagation also be an anti feat for omnipotence? The aeons do move a lot except HooH (obv).
 
Super_Nova said:
That’s not omnipresence. Being capable of appearing somewhere or teleporting is a given for an Aeon. And Nanook was in Path Space there (his true body) which Phainon went and hurt.

HooH has it because he’s dissolved into reality. But other than that, all Aeons have are cosmic awareness and range. And require absolutely nothing else in order to do what they do.
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So what are the requirments of something being omnipresent? They have spatial totality being everywhere and they have total awareness. You could even say that since their Paths are omnipresent, they should by extension be too. The 3.4 sequence didn't all happen in the Path Space. It ended there. It begun in the Scepter's core which Phainon was trying to breach. I also don't think they are teleporting out of somewhere whenever they appear to a mortal. They are just... there and reveal themselves.

HooH is equal to the other Aeons. As said, if they were beyond the others, the universe would be in their total control.
 
Mbpoops said:
Wouldnt the fact tazzy only affected 2/3 of the universe with the propagation also be an anti feat for omnipotence? The aeons do move a lot except HooH (obv).
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I wouldn't say so. The Swarm was lead by Tayzzy but it's not said that they were on the frontlines or something. They were just directing the Swarm. Similarly to how Nanook is right now directing the Ravagers and the Legion. Nanook isn't personally fighting anybody. Also, the 2/3 part was due to the conflict between Oroboros and Tayzzy. I don't think that's an anti-feat because it could mean that their creatures (bugs and voracity-related creatures) fought one another or that their fight took place in another plane of existence and it just ended up affecting the mortal reality.


Super_Nova said:
They don't have the former.
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I mean... they kinda do. Paths and Aeons are used interchangably. And Paths are everywhere. Ig that's not the point of this thread rn but should it be brought up again, it's worth looking over.
 
Nighting4l33yes said:
I mean... they kinda do. Paths and Aeons are used interchangably. And Paths are everywhere. Ig that's not the point of this thread rn but should it be brought up again, it's worth looking over.
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Paths are explicitly the energy an Aeon uses. It’s why they can exist after an Aeons death.

They are what fundamentally make up material objects. Or, in a simpler sense, they are as “omnipresent” as space itself is (in fact, even less). Which is to say that they aren’t omnipresent at all.

Nanook isn’t “literally” inside of Amphreus. Just the Path Energy that flows there. Because he can look at anywhere in the universe and manifest his avatar there says nothing aside from his range. That’s all.
 
Super_Nova said:
Paths are explicitly the energy an Aeon uses. It’s why they can exist after an Aeons death.

They are what fundamentally make up material objects. Or, in a simpler sense, they are as “omnipresent” as space itself is (in fact, even less). Which is to say that they aren’t omnipresent at all.

Nanook isn’t “literally” inside of Amphreus. Just the Path Energy that flows there. Because he can look at anywhere in the universe and manifest his avatar there says nothing aside from his range. That’s all.
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Paths also emerge the moment an Aeon ascends. Since they aren't pre-existing, a Path can spread throughout the universe after the ascension providing said ascendant with everything a Path is characterized by. Including omnipresence as imaginary energy is omnipresent itself too. It's a fundamental force of the HSR world like gravity.
 
Well aeons are the beings that embody the path, while the paths do encompass/flows throughout the entire universe the aeon doesnt the aeons are kinda more like representatives if anything. They dont even exist “in” the universe its more like they are just looking over it because of their HDE which is yk why they have HDE they dont exist everywhere but they can appear anywhere (of that makes sense) due to their HDE. Except HooH since he literally burned himself into the universe
 
The only one id give omnipresence is HooH other than they they get inf speed since they move really fast around the universe
 
Mbpoops said:
Well aeons are the beings that embody the path, while the paths do encompass/flows throughout the entire universe the aeon doesnt the aeons are kinda more like representatives if anything. They dont even exist “in” the universe its more like they are just looking over it because of their HDE which is yk why they have HDE they dont exist everywhere but they can appear anywhere (of that makes sense) due to their HDE. Except HooH since he literally burned himself into the universe
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I mean it was accepted the Imaginary makes up everything, Aeons are the specific part of the Imaginary that presses against each other, I feel like if Imaginary is omnipresent then the Aeons are also omnipresent by default
 
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