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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

AbaddonTheDisappointment said:
Fair, and yeah I get that, though for JJK the statements and calcs are for the most part around the same range which is why I keep it around the subsonic range, ignoring a few outliers cough cough EM wave cough cough. Probably also relevant to note that I don't keep everyone at subsonic, just grade 1 and below. Other dudes I have at around supersonic off of special grades and their level being able to dodge PB.

Also most of my scaling ignores the anime which is probably why it's on a lower level
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I think most of the "subsonic consistency" of the feats still rely on stuff like me going to scale DBS and scaling "goku blitzes jiren" while using "superhuman reaction speeds" for Jiren to get Subsonic feats for MUI Goku or using goku catching bullets.
TLDR: I think alot of feats are just calculated for the sake of it lol, the verse is so down bad that it calcs ANYTHING that looks like a speed feat

I think you could prob get way higher feats even with just the manga, weren't there transonic - supersonic feats that grade 1s would scale to that got rejected over the cap? (I'm not sure if they are from the manga) And I still stand with the fact that stuff like the hakari feat is valid but fair enough
 
Rodriiogo said:
I think most of the "subsonic consistency" of the feats still rely on stuff like me going to scale DBS and scaling "goku blitzes jiren" while using "superhuman reaction speeds" for Jiren to get Subsonic feats for MUI Goku or using goku catching bullets.
TLDR: I think alot of feats are just calculated for the sake of it lol, the verse is so down bad that it calcs ANYTHING that looks like a speed feat

I think you could prob get way higher feats even with just the manga, weren't there transonic - supersonic feats that grade 1s would scale to that got rejected over the cap? (I'm not sure if they are from the manga) And I still stand with the fact that stuff like the hakari feat is valid but fair enough
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Speaking of calcing anything, did you calc that cursed destroying that rooftop of may I?
 
Buraqibear said:
Speaking of calcing anything, did you calc that cursed destroying that rooftop of may I?
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I don't see much reason to do that. Like I said, after this CRT finished I'd push for Wall level cap for anyone not Special Grade, and like Building level for Special Grade. I mean you can, but it'd just be a waste of effort.
 
Rodriiogo said:
I think most of the "subsonic consistency" of the feats still rely on stuff like me going to scale DBS and scaling "goku blitzes jiren" while using "superhuman reaction speeds" for Jiren to get Subsonic feats for MUI Goku or using goku catching bullets.
TLDR: I think alot of feats are just calculated for the sake of it lol, the verse is so down bad that it calcs ANYTHING that looks like a speed feat

I think you could prob get way higher feats even with just the manga, weren't there transonic - supersonic feats that grade 1s would scale to that got rejected over the cap? (I'm not sure if they are from the manga) And I still stand with the fact that stuff like the hakari feat is valid but fair enough
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No idea if there were. Ones I have seen are kind of dodgy at best honestly. IIRC seen calcs that got Maki at like mach 8 for hitting Naoya
 
LaserPrecision said:
I don't see much reason to do that. Like I said, after this CRT finished I'd push for Wall level cap for anyone not Special Grade, and like Building level for Special Grade. I mean you can, but it'd just be a waste of effort.
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Thank God I have layered sarcasm detection, this would've given me a heart attack 😮‍💨
 
Buraqibear said:
Dawg. She was literally catching his punches and counting them.
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i'm referring to much later

on top of this, in this moment she was tracking him, but she was still slower.
you know how we know she's still slower?
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#1 Maki used 2 hands to counter his attacks that he required 1 hand to utilize.
#2 Maki got tagged and grabbed by that same 1 hand then smacked her around
#3 Naoya visibly outran her taking a larger distance

Maki can combat him yes.
You can combat someone and be slower.
 
Buraqibear said:
Speaking of calcing anything, did you calc that cursed destroying that rooftop of may I?
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You can, idt it will get high considering the curse ain't even 30m in diameter irc (and we don't know what grade it even is)

I'm currently tryna think of a way of how to calculate the yuta speedblitz on the curse, all my tries as of rn got Mach 11
 
Buraqibear said:
Thank God I have layered sarcasm detection, this would've given me a heart attack 😮‍💨
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Tbf if we are gonna be statement and """"""narrative"""""" merchants for the speed c*p might aswell do it for the AP, might aswell push for building cap indeed
 
KingTempest said:
i'm referring to much later

on top of this, in this moment she was tracking him, but she was still slower.
you know how we know she's still slower?
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#1 Maki used 2 hands to counter his attacks that he required 1 hand to utilize.
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Not sure about that, it looks like he used his other hand too to me
KingTempest said:
#2 Maki got tagged and grabbed by that same 1 hand then smacked her around
#3 Naoya visibly outran her taking a larger distance
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He was getting faster
KingTempest said:
Maki can combat him yes.
You can combat someone and be slower.
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Not a whole tier slower
 
Buraqibear said:
Thank God I have layered sarcasm detection, this would've given me a heart attack 😮‍💨
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Sadly I'm not. I'm just being internally consistent with the logic used for the verse. I will be trying my best to downgrade as much as I can to be wall level to like Tier 8-C at most.

Btw for the speed CRT, someone outta mention or at least put this down in their sandbox (Arkenis); Gojo's anti feat of taking several minutes to run around and kill every transfigured humans and then being out of breath.
 
LaserPrecision said:
Sadly I'm not. I'm just being internally consistent with the logic used for the verse. I will be trying my best to downgrade as much as I can to be wall level to like Tier 8-C at most.

Btw for the speed CRT, someone outta mention or at least put this down in their sandbox (Arkenis); Gojo's anti feat of taking several minutes to run around and kill every transfigured humans and then being out of breath.
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Gonna be real funny when Gojo/Sukuna are High 7-C while everyone else is 8-C

To be fair for that, he has to precisely go through an entire crowded area and pinpoint and kill only the transfigured humans so there's that
 
Everyone called me crazy when I tried to downgrade the high and top tiers to subsonic+ and MCB-Small Town, no one considered the possibility that I was just foreshadowing this all
 
LaserPrecision said:
Sadly I'm not. I'm just being internally consistent with the logic used for the verse. I will be trying my best to downgrade as much as I can to be wall level to like Tier 8-C at most.

Btw for the speed CRT, someone outta mention or at least put this down in their sandbox (Arkenis); Gojo's anti feat of taking several minutes to run around and kill every transfigured humans and then being out of breath.
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Yea this one sealed the deal for me.
 
AbaddonTheDisappointment said:
Gonna be real funny when Gojo/Sukuna are High 7-C while everyone else is 8-C

To be fair for that, he has to precisely go through an entire crowded area and pinpoint and kill only the transfigured humans so there's that
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Gojo and Sukuna may be affected by it too ngl. Upscale sure, but prolly within the same realm.

Yeah, but if they were even close to the speed currently on their profiles, the feat would take less time than what the story says, and y'know "statements are the narrative!!! What actually happens gets discarded over what said!" 'n' all that stuff.
 
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Rodriiogo said:
First off, yes alot of the statements about sound in MHA comes from people that the wiki scales at Relativistic+. I won't call them high tiers cause, despite watching most of it I still haven't finished it plus not a big in-verse guy on it.

Notice how in all the verses you mentioned, the option has always been going off feats regardless and not using stuff like how kishimoto said naruto verses would lose to regular guns (sounds familiar? It should cause you tried using the same thing as supporting for JJK being low in speed). All those situations still ended up with the verse going off feats and not just a statement (other than apparently black clover from what mommy said irc?)

All statement contradictions in stuff like MHA were ignored because they make no sense with what the story shows, which is how it should go here as well.
Same with how we don't scale bleach ppl way lower because "kubo wrote them doing kilojoules attacks"
My issue isn't the verse being upgraded or downgraded, it's how the verse is being capped.
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Ngl MHA probably does need crts and the supporters have just been reluctant or never discussed it before, I doubt they’re just all in agreement to ignore it, I doubt Damage hasn’t brought it up either.

Did Kishimoto say that in the manga, where its pivotal, crucial, important, lore accurate or specific to a character’s ability? Those verses did not go off just feats, the narrative backs their scale almost 100%.

Notice how the examples you bring up are never 1:1 with JJK’s? Candice’s lightning statement HAS zero to do with her relevance to the story.

Idk how you’re ignoring that JJK’s examples aren’t one off statements no matter how much you wanna delude yourself, these statements are often made by the narrator or are recognized in the jujutsu society as truth.
 
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