Isekai at Peace Discussion Thread

[Enter_Bluey]

Dealing with the arguments for awlba and then this one, way more than I wanna do for a holiday vacation

Outer and up on this site is already annoying to deal with as is

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

Nobody is defending AWLBA besides you, just focus there lol.

Also may as well get these topics out the way, so we can have a good year, it's inevitable that this was going to come up.

I hope we never have to talk about the Epilogue again, unless the author brings up something new, and we are forced to do so, 1-A and up is no fun.

 

[Noneless21]

I mean, high 1-A Epilogue is always a meme to begin with, seeing it passes just put the staff that was in charge with the thread question about their validity rather than The Epilogue is high 1-A in the first place

honestly it's time to wake up

 

[Grabbing_dragon]

As far as i see right now, this is CM 3, as it forces both pain and the concept of pain onto those who do not participate in it. It is not negation, since it is removing their immunity.

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

Resistance negation is the ability to remove resistances, idk what else it could be besides that, removing immunity falls under that too imo.

 

[Noneless21]

not everything needs to be CM, but the source of that negation is indeed CM so it needs conceptual powernull or defense to block it

 

[Grabbing_dragon]

Resistance negation is the ability to remove resistances, idk what else it could be besides that, removing immunity falls under that too imo.

Was talking about this, forcing an aspect onto a being that does not participate in it does not seem like resistance negation, since it does not nullify anything; it only imposes an aspect they lack onto their being.

 

[Grabbing_dragon]

not everything needs to be CM, but the source of that negation is indeed CM so it needs conceptual powernull or defense to block it

Was talking about this, forcing an aspect onto a being that does not participate in it does not seem like resistance negation, since it does not nullify anything; it only imposes an aspect they lack onto their being.

Another way to say it: it isn’t bypassing anything to be a negation, but instead adding something new to their being.

 

[Legacy30]

Against those for whose concept of pain doesn’t exist or those who don’t feel pain, “forcibly inflicting pain and dealing damage to them” -695

That's not forcing the concept of pain on them, that's straight up going straight through the immunity. It's like killing a being without the concept of death without the need for imposing the concept onto them.

 

[Grabbing_dragon]

That's not forcing the concept of pain on them, that's straight up going straight through the immunity.

From the context, that is what it is doing: they lack pain, and it is forcibly inflicting pain on them, so it is adding pain into their being for them to be able to feel it. That is the logical conclusion.

It's like killing a being without the concept of death without the need for imposing the concept onto them.

Then that is an antifeat meaning they didn’t lack the concept of death, as being killed means participating in the concept of death.

 

[Legacy30]

From the context, that is what it is doing: they lack pain, and it is forcibly inflicting pain on them, so it is adding pain into their being for them to be able to feel it. That is the logical conclusion.

Then that is an antifeat: they didn’t lack the concept of death, as being killed, means participating in the concept of death.

It's not really a problem in fiction for this kind of immunity to get busted through in most cases. Our neighbor on the decrepit side of the neighborhood, Yogiri, can kill beings with no concept of death just fine.

 

[Grabbing_dragon]

It's not really a problem in fiction for this kind of immunity to get busted through in most cases.

No, it is not fine; they wouldn’t qualify for immunity for that to happen.

Our neighbor on the decrepit side of the neighborhood, Yogiri, can kill beings with no concept of death just fine.

Yogiri doesn’t kill, so it isn’t a problem, but instead erases the essence of their being.

 

[SweetDao]

Yogiri, can kill beings with no concept of death just fine.

Quick note, the "beings with no concept of death/concept of death doesn't apply" is just Gods ressurecting after ten thousands of years, so yeah...

 

[Legacy30]

Quick note, the "beings with no concept of death/concept of death doesn't apply" is just Gods ressurecting after ten thousands of years, so yeah...

I deliberately mentioned Yogurt because I knew you'd arrive.

 

[Noneless21]

The ancient technique of summoning downplayers, simply wank a character a little

 

[BoastJr]

Battle with Kaito be like :

 

[BoastJr]

Seeing H3A on the profile for all Six Kings Tier character is kind of unreal. I still remember when we use to rate them as Barely 6C... How things have changed over the years

 

[Noneless21]

iirc they're once 7-B because of Isis' Maximum magic covers tens of kilometer in range, so that is a really big jump

 

[BoastJr]

iirc they're once 7-B because of Isis' Maximum magic covers tens of kilometer in range, so that is a really big jump

More happy that the Profiles look Neat and Clean

Its a real improvement too

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

Being High 3-A, we can now even match them against Bugs Bunny if we wanted to.

 

[Enter_Bluey]

Even more wild with the freaking scaling chain. It's like high 3A -> 8 million times -> Another 8 million(but he gap is bigger than the previous so more than that) -> Dukes whatever that even is now.. -> then 1 billion to a trillion nonsense

At least in terms of speed I guess. But like UES so...

Like wth happened in the last year or so

 

[Noneless21]

Pegasus rereads and add more stuff, it's pretty standard really

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

There will be no more re-reads of the WN, i can tell you that lol.

I should get to the LN, but I have to read Re Zero before, but there has been lots of procrastinating, not to mention juggling studying.

But yea, unless the WN does something crazy, next time I make a ISAP CRT will be the LN, so probably going to be a couple months.

 

[Enter_Bluey]

Uhm actually we demand CRT to add healing to illness...very necessary addition that cannot wait and is more important than studies

The reread was good though, the profiles look real nice and more polished

 

[BoastJr]

I don't think we can add much more stuff unless its the authority thread that a certain someone planned but kinda burnt out on High Tier stuff

Its fine if we let stuff build up for a while cuz the story won't drop a gold nugget anytime soon xD but who knows

 

[BoastJr]

Honkai Impact will fall to Low 1C following this thread it seems

Is there any particular matchups that we can do ? More interested in Matchups tbh

 

[Noneless21]

if it's low 1-C then the best we can do is Fate, and nobody else

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

if it's low 1-C then the best we can do is Fate, and nobody else

Final arc Alice is essentially Low 1-C, can grow to that level, has Kuro's power, and multiple haxes which work on a Low 1-C level.

Back to the story though, seems otherword gods will be at Kaito's tea party, Tiana was suppose to be first in line from memory, so we could have some interesting revelations.

 

[Noneless21]

Final arc Alice is essentially Low 1-C, can grow to that level, has Kuro's power, and multiple haxes which work on a Low 1-C level.

well dont think it's fair since she can just jump to higher dimension using her heart tools and steamroll everyone

Back to the story though, seems otherword gods will be at Kaito's tea party, Tiana was suppose to be first in line from memory, so we could have some interesting revelations.

I'm betting that there's not a lot of interesting things that could be added to the profiles that we know of, who knows

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

I'm betting that there's not a lot of interesting things that could be added to the profiles that we know of, who knows

We could also get more hax for World Creators, as much as I don't care for the more exotic stuff like transduality, or we could even get some more stuff about layers or resistance negation.

Specific numbers on the dimensional hierarchy could be a thing too, maybe some statement about Omnipotent and Omniscient beings being 12-D or something, who knows.

I have low expectations anything beyond 1-A will happen at this point, and honestly would rather we just a whole bunch of hax and scaling to make the profiles look more full.

 

[BoastJr]

Snip

1-A stuff was fun for a while but it got old fast.

Rather we get more abilities for lower tiers which was actually fun with how everyone was suddenly bringing up mountains of information

 

[Noneless21]

well to be fair, the only way they can get higher than 1-A is through esoteric statements that I'm 99% sure that the author wont add

so maybe we can have new cool abilities, hopefully

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

This is a slice of life series, when was the last time we had a legit fight? I can't even remember, and I don't mean a punch thrown here or there.

While the series can be powerscaled, it's really not the point, the last serious author statement about the Epilogue was basically the author saying nothing can beat the Epilogue in the series, and the author themselves don't know, so stop asking about it basically, very unlikely the author will give it anymore thought, and think about some nonsense like the Epilogue can end all logically possible worlds, the author just wants to tell stories about Kaito giving people stomach aches, unless they randomly saw something about possible worlds and thought it would be cool to make some sort of joke, which would fit with how things have been done before but yea don't look for high tiers in this series.

 

[Noneless21]

I'm just hoping we can get sickass abilities, we have the Polar Star God, so maybe she can have an exclusive ability, but who knows

honestly the one at chapter 1267 is probably the ultimatum from the author to stop asking him stupid shit, so yeah the only way the Epilogue can get upgraded is from upgrading the cosmology, which probably wont happen in the next 1000 chapters at least

but yeah, the last time an actual fight shown is like, when Iris vs Polaris maybe? I forgor

 

[BoastJr]

Since the abilities are more or less straight forward

It could probably be some form of Buff or Star Manip

Maybe even Blackhole creation which I don't think anyone did other then Shiro

 

[Grabbing_dragon]

Battle with Kaito be like :

Arata Kaito on that , as that’s what just happened in the new chapter of Trinity Seven. Arata Kasuga summoned everyone in a 1A realm in order to fight the second strongest character, obviously his first love, who wants him in a true yandere way. So now I can confidently say everyone here is outerversal.

 

[Noneless21]

Arata Kaito on that , as that’s what just happened in the new chapter of Trinity Seven. Arata Kasuga summoned everyone in a 1A realm in order to fight the second strongest character, obviously his first love, who wants him in a true yandere way. So now I can confidently say everyone here is outerversal.

first of all, that sounds like an outlier for 1-A tier, second, this is Isekai at Peace Discussion thread, if you wanna gush out other series, do that in other thread instead

 

[Grabbing_dragon]

first of all, that sounds like an outlier for 1-A tier, second, this is Isekai at Peace Discussion thread, if you wanna gush out other series, do that in other thread instead

You are correct about the second part, I did get a bit excited. Aside from the first part, just because I didn’t provide context doesn’t mean it’s an outlier. With the amount of context we have, being in the Akashic Record is equivalent to reaching the truth of magic and the world, which in turn evaluates you at the level of a being who inhabits it.

 

[BoastJr]

One thing about kaito is that he can pretty much fit into alot of settings powerlevel wise depending on who he brings (Since there is alot of variation)

Although Alice and Shiro certainly also makes that impossible in a way xD

 

[Grabbing_dragon]

One thing about kaito is that he can pretty much fit into alot of settings powerlevel wise depending on who he brings (Since there is alot of variation)

Pretty true. It would have been pretty amazing if he could summon them; then we could use them in VS matches. Then, thinking about the epilogue, should have also lost Death Manipulation, as the entire scan is from a joke chapter as a remembrance, and it can pretty much be argued that it is instant death because it targets their stories. This is also the same reason why those negations were removed, and there is no way Kaito can summon all of them at that point, and there is no evidence for all of them.

Although Alice and Shiro certainly also makes that impossible in a way xD

At least they are top 2 characters, so I don’t mind. Their moments are always fun and pretty cool.