This is not a counter, she was already shown to have a mental argument even before she started healing ichigo. This is false.
Can you show me the panel? I can't remember it.
By this logic tsukishima will scale to true shikai ichigo lol. His sword can bypass durability my guy.
Ichigo was off-guard and had already taken a lot of hits from Yhwach. No, Tsukishima doesn't scale up to him in terms of power. At worst, I'd call him an outlier. Besides, Tsukishima's ability to outmaneuver Byakuya throughout the fight isn't something that would qualify as an outlier. Byakuya had to lower his guard to defeat him.
Let me give you an example using Shinji. Does Shinji's ability to hit off-guard Aizen mean we're upscaling him to Aizen's level? No, because he has anti-feats that show he's not at Aizen's level. There are many things that show Tsukishima won't be at the level of True Shikai Ichigo. But there's nothing that shows he won't be at the level of Byakuya, at least not at the level of the Fullbring arc. One is a scene of him hitting an outlier, the other is a long fight. The two can't be compared.
In the Kisuke chapter, you said you were arguing based on what the Wiki accepts. The Wiki accepts that Tsukishima scales to Byakuya. Zommari also scales to Byakuya. You can't upscale from Espada level 7 to Espada level 0 in a few hours without doing anything, especially considering Zommari's speed is enough to react to Senbonzakura Gokei. Yammy, on the other hand, should have even higher reaction and attack speed than Zommari.
And we are literally told fullbringers are low captain level threats, byakuya isn't a low captain and again there is no evidence of tsukishima being weaker than cyfow grimjoww.
On what basis exactly are you saying Byakuya isn't a low-level captain? The evidence used to support Byakuya's claim of strength is:
1) He was able to hit Gerard (This is considered invalid on the wiki because Toshiro froze him. Even if Toshiro hadn't frozen him, we'd still call him an outlier because while V1 couldn't even scratch Gerard, V3 could hit Gerard with Senkei, and Senkei only gives a 2x AP boost).
2) He was able to hit Yammy.
If you're not scaling the character to Yammy and Gerard, you'd already place Byakuya at the very bottom of the captain rankings. In the first arc, he was shown as Ichigo's opponent, using Bankai for the first time... So no, Byakuya is a low-level captain. It was also stated in Nestle to Night that Yammy was defeated in an off-screen fight. Zaraki and Byakuya don't beat Yammy's final form. The scenes where Byakuya is involved in the fight are also outliers due to the anti-feats against Tsukishima and Zommari. For years, this wiki and many communities have scaled Byakuya to Yammy to upscale the characters. If you don't scale him to Yammy, characters like Liltotto, Meninas, and Robert wouldn't have such a high tier.
The novel shows us Base Grimmjow fighting against Tsukishima and Base Ginjo.
Girikko tells us that Base Grimmjow's GRC is slightly stronger than Base Ginjo's GT. The same applies to speed, with Ginjo GT being slightly faster than Grimmjow's GRC.
We also see Tsukishima trying to impress Grimmjow with the Book of the End, but Grimmjow is unimpressed (meaning not affected in the way Tsukishima wanted) because Grimmjow is capable of attacking even his own allies. So how can you say such a battle didn't happen?
Base Grimmjow GRC AP => Base Ginjo GT AP > CFYOW Tsukishima's durability > The Lost Agent Shinigami arc Tsukishima's durability.
In the same novel, it is also stated that Grimmjow still cannot surpass Baraggan, which puts him below Yammy.
Final form Yammy>Baraggan>CFYOW Resurrection Grimmjow>CFYOW Base Grimmjow>CFYOW Tsukishima> TLAS Tsukihima>TLAS Byakuya
We haven't discussed that before, the wiki already accepts unless you make a CRT proving your case. Then I will follow with what the wiki says.
We discussed this in the Fullbring Ichigo downgrade CRT. Naeobito also argued that Starrk > Shikai Shunsui. Unlike me, Naeobito ONLY argued that Shikai Shunsui was weaker than Starrk in the FKT arc.
There is nothing about serious or not, not being serious doesn't limit your attack potency. Again shunsui tanked that attack.
We've seen many times in the series that attacks can be weaker when they're not taken seriously.
Imma need you to prove this.
This is baseless chain scaling that is soo false as hell. Arrancar arc zaraki until after the fight with nniotara isn't stronger than shunsui.
Do you watch Shikai Ukitake vs Mue fights? They're relative, and Eye Patch Zaraki easily defeats Mue. Against Nnoitra, the eye patch fell off. While Nnoitra scales into a stronger Zaraki form, Mue gets one-shotted by a weaker Zaraki form. And Mue is Shikai Ukitake level.
In the Arrancar arc, you need to prove Shunsui is stronger.
Yes attacking wonderweiss, not expecting an attack from another character and he doesn't get hurt by the attack either.
Why would my durability decrease when attacking Wonderweiss? You didn't understand the Shinji-Tosen example I gave. You're arguing that durability decreases when you're off-guard. Yes, it does decrease, but characters should guard when attacking someone, even if they don't know someone is attacking them. Attacking Wonderweiss =/= I only have durability that tanks Wonderweiss's attacks; my durability is low against others. This only explains why I don't react to the speed of other attacks. It doesn't answer why I can't withstand them.
