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You can ask @ScrollerGNL that
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@ScrollerGNL , why'd nova get banned from discord?
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Bro, if you speak like this I’m gonna have to assume you’re my kid now…
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Maybe if you were Evernight & not Mr.Yaoi/Yuri/FemboyCracker1000.
Anyways, so the current major scaling that is confirmed is AW through R>F via the Symbolism transcendence backed up by the reflections WoG, BDE Type 2 for both the Spirit World & Astral World which you want to upgrade to Type 3 to give both of them 1A (Astral World getting a back-up or another layer depending on if it also R>Fs the Spirit World), & then you want to introduce High 1A OC
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I might just die from the second-hand embarrassment brought from the Toxic worship
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I’ll go feral once he gets unbanned here
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*Klein will be soloing fiction.
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Why'd he get banned? Also if you're gonna bite someone don't bite me, bite the other shameless dude
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gonna dump a few things here (looking for it in the discord each time is annoying):
https://docs.google.com/document/d/...zX1aA3n4U/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.icrgto9ai8az (Chained Formula QnA)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/...aNMRWu8Ns/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.icrgto9ai8az (TG Formula QnA)
docs.google.com/document/d/1H4pRSMKKzlkcE5C7kHyns-HRHjBMQSeB1KDzG6MkCr0/edit?tab=t.0 (WoF Ritual QnA)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/...o4VkeFx0o/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.icrgto9ai8az (TG Abilities QnA)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/...sWrsv78yg/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.pfth7fpzfnz5 (WoF Formula QnA)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/...hFAkunato/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.ip8tt0ckufxm (Mother Rituals QnA)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/...yAUyqJuQI/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.icrgto9ai8az (Fool Authority QnA)
the LOTM wiki guys do a lotta work
https://docs.google.com/document/d/...zX1aA3n4U/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.icrgto9ai8az (Chained Formula QnA)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/...aNMRWu8Ns/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.icrgto9ai8az (TG Formula QnA)
docs.google.com/document/d/1H4pRSMKKzlkcE5C7kHyns-HRHjBMQSeB1KDzG6MkCr0/edit?tab=t.0 (WoF Ritual QnA)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/...o4VkeFx0o/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.icrgto9ai8az (TG Abilities QnA)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/...sWrsv78yg/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.pfth7fpzfnz5 (WoF Formula QnA)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/...hFAkunato/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.ip8tt0ckufxm (Mother Rituals QnA)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/...yAUyqJuQI/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.icrgto9ai8az (Fool Authority QnA)
the LOTM wiki guys do a lotta work
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Nova covered that with this:
- Passive Power Nullification (1-A): The most important one is the passive ability suppression you gain towards opponents with lower levels of Godhood<a , making even the difference between Sequence 5 and 4 completely insurmountable.
- This means that each advancement between the ranks which are all qualitatively superior from each other (Demigod, Angel, Deity, Great Old One), there is at least 1 extra Layer of Passive Power Nullification and every ability will gain 1 Layer of effectiveness for every rank it is upgraded through. They even gain resistances to the negative effects of Sealed Artifacts, with it being stated that the suppression is even greater than 90%.
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Satoru Gojo vs Klein Moretti [12-12-0]
(Hoping this isn’t a stomp) The Honored One Votes: @Arkenis @Buraqibear @Pluto321 @Cipher72 @Naito-desu @Catbowtie @Robo432343 @Bimbitesthedust @Keshirou @LIFE_OF_KING @Voidnether @Sakamaki_Fuji VERSUS The Fool (as Gehrman Sparrow) Votes: @PhoenixWrong57 @Foriaa @Notlaziz @Exoko...
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What wincons would Klein even have? If CE is equated to Spirituality then initial phase of control for Marionettes would be on the higher end, and so Klein would have to avoid the blue-infused punches that pull him in for ~20 seconds, Illusion Creation could help divert Gojo but I'm unsure of the range of his blue infused punches, it's probably really small though.Satoru Gojo vs Klein Moretti [12-12-0]
(Hoping this isn’t a stomp) The Honored One Votes: @Arkenis @Buraqibear @Pluto321 @Cipher72 @Naito-desu @Catbowtie @Robo432343 @Bimbitesthedust @Keshirou @LIFE_OF_KING @Voidnether @Sakamaki_Fuji VERSUS The Fool (as Gehrman Sparrow) Votes: @PhoenixWrong57 @Foriaa @Notlaziz @Exoko...vsbattles.com
Ignoring Illusion Creation:
He released the Psychiatrist in that key, he may have had the Nightmare & Soul Assurer still there, not sure.
He had the Light of Holiness which could bypass Limitless, but no clue if it has the A.P to do any damage.
Not on his profile though.
Slow which could slow Gojo for a few seconds.
I don't remember if Klein could maintain his spirit thread control while tping or using paper figurine substitutions, if he could then yeah he'd win, otherwise Gojo would just keep moving around till Klein tires and has used up his spirituality. I don't remember how many Blinks or Flaming Jumps Klein could do with his spirituality store, not sure if he ever used it all up (unlike a certain MC with the spirituality of a S9 Seer).
So it rests on whether his Illusion Creation (should be updated to Perception Manipulation in here) works on Gojo.
If it doesn't then Klein just stays in the Spirit World then it's an incon, he might just run away and summon something random like a high-level devil w the Aura of Blatherer.
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Lowkey if I make Lord of Mysteries Klein vs Oldest Dream Kim Dokja or Primordial Chaos Original Creator vs Empyrean Gu Chensha, it's a spite for the latter so could you make it so that LOTM is an acausality type 5 + paraconsistent physiology type 3 merchant other than the NEP2 that somehow is only for OC so I could make the matchup and for it not to be called spite and stuffSatoru Gojo vs Klein Moretti [12-12-0]
(Hoping this isn’t a stomp) The Honored One Votes: @Arkenis @Buraqibear @Pluto321 @Cipher72 @Naito-desu @Catbowtie @Robo432343 @Bimbitesthedust @Keshirou @LIFE_OF_KING @Voidnether @Sakamaki_Fuji VERSUS The Fool (as Gehrman Sparrow) Votes: @PhoenixWrong57 @Foriaa @Notlaziz @Exoko...
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ORV is infinite layers into nonduality, cm, acausality whatever
Seems to be fair since both are base(?) High 1-A
OC lacks specifically 3 hax in total. One is Omnipotence, and the other two are the ones you listed above
Chaos Sea Sefirot has it as well, so that’s PGA and Adam alongside OC
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Empyrean Gu Chensha has like acausality type 5 and paraconsistent physiology type 3 hereORV is infinite layers into nonduality, cm, acausality whatever
Seems to be fair since both are base(?) High 1-A
OC lacks specifically 3 hax in total. One is Omnipotence, and the other two are the ones you listed above
Chaos Sea Sefirot has it as well, so that’s PGA and Adam
Cultivation Realms (Dragon Talisman)
Cultivation levels are inaccessible levels without the appropriate enlightenment and requirements. It is a system that requires perception, latent talent, and enlightenment of various cultivation levels. If you can’t gain enlightenment, then no medicinal pill will be able to help you[1]...
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All of them are just spite for the latter and barely anything for Klein that would make it in his favor/inconclusive, AWLBA is a plot merchant and Lord of Mysteries don't have that somehow lol
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Honestly idk. I was thinking trying out with Ruphal or Alovenus but they’re infinite quantitative layers into base 1-A, and I’m really not sure how that’s work with Astral World
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I'm thinking about like Game Master Battler but his Golden Longsword would obliterate Klein ong also Battler has Plot Manipulation so ggs
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Klein would be like an effective 10 layers into Fate Manip, that should be good enough against Plot.
Or maybe I can js wank plot for Adam hmmm
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Maybe we can use this matchup after downgrade awlba to base 1-a
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They are base 1A rn. Its js that they have infinite quantitative layers on top of that. And Im really not sure wtf that means. Is it High 1-B for 1-A or…?
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So it is not 1-a base? Isn’t it 1-a+ if you have infinite quantitive layers?
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The Astral World contains all objects in their conceptual forms. And LOTM cosmo below Astral World is Low 1-A, so you can argue Klein is Low 1-A for 1-A
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AWLBA's plot manipulation is above infinite layers through overlaying settings and irrationality and contradictions iirc, the point of overlaying settings is that you just can't win against that so unless you have atleast 1 layer into 1-A ability and this is a qualitative addition, you just cant
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I mean in comparison with other 1-a charactersThe Astral World contains all objects in their conceptual forms. And LOTM cosmo below Astral World is Low 1-A, so you can argue Klein is Low 1-A for 1-A
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Aethyr Manipulation is WORSE THAN ANYTHING MENTIONED IN HERE
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Oh, I understand nowAWLBA's plot manipulation is above infinite layers through overlaying settings and irrationality and contradictions iirc, the point of overlaying settings is that you just can't win against that so unless you have atleast 1 layers into 1-A and this is a qualitative addition, you just cant
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Why? I’m kinda new in powerscaling
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They have almost all of the abilities indexed on the wiki
It's way worse than Marvel's magic that in itself already gives you tons of abilities from being able to utilize it, so if Klein fought against Abstracts he would just die atp
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Honestly I say we wait for OC’s profile to get accepted first so we can layout the efficacy of Godhood before doing VS matches like ts
Infinite layers into every hax is actually lobotomized bruAWLBA's plot manipulation is above infinite layers through overlaying settings and irrationality and contradictions iirc, the point of overlaying settings is that you just can't win against that so unless you have atleast 1 layer into 1-A ability and this is a qualitative addition, you just cant
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Wow…
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I mean Godhood scales to every hax that 1-A OC scales to. Which is nigh-everything in the wiki
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But would you actually list every single of them individually like on this page though..
Aethyr Manipulation
As Volans, the first Patriarch of the Colleges of Magic so aptly sums it up, the Aethyr is the Void, the final element of existence - the intangible element that has no visible or quantifiable form in it's own right. It has no dimension, mass or volume yet is still everywhere. It has no...
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Aethyr Manipulation
As Volans, the first Patriarch of the Colleges of Magic so aptly sums it up, the Aethyr is the Void, the final element of existence - the intangible element that has no visible or quantifiable form in it's own right. It has no dimension, mass or volume yet is still everywhere. It has no...
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WtfBut would you actually list every single of them individually like on this page though..
Aethyr Manipulation
As Volans, the first Patriarch of the Colleges of Magic so aptly sums it up, the Aethyr is the Void, the final element of existence - the intangible element that has no visible or quantifiable form in it's own right. It has no dimension, mass or volume yet is still everywhere. It has no...I mean if you have the willpower to do soAethyr Manipulation
As Volans, the first Patriarch of the Colleges of Magic so aptly sums it up, the Aethyr is the Void, the final element of existence - the intangible element that has no visible or quantifiable form in it's own right. It has no dimension, mass or volume yet is still everywhere. It has no...
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@Super_Nova where do authorities scale in lotm?
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1-A, 1 Layer into CM1
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