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Yuta was holding back not to kill fodder yuji ez
Ive got a scale for hypersonic naobito locked up if that helps
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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1
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There's no real way to do that, outside of saying that Yuta was doing Sukuna lvls of holding back
Anonymous_Learner
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you know JJK VSBW'll get slandered for having characters being Mach 3 victims having above Mach 3 stuff but hey the agenda from both antis and supporters is funny af (And I got what I wanted, which is above MHS+ Gojo and Sukuna on this site, albiet in reactions, so I pleased regardless)
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So you agree that my scaling is lowk goated? Thanks pookie, i knew you actually liked Kashimo being top 3 all along.
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(Which is blatantly a lie just saying)
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JJK had a level ass calcs that somehow we rated the feat of Itadori throwing a car as an average human feat for several months
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Supersonic would only be a few times higher than Yuji's current speed rating at most. That doesn't really require Sukuna levels of holding back. It at most requires him to expert half his effort. Not hold back thousands of times (Even if Naoya perception blitzing him should make him many times faster than Yuji's subsonic speed so realistically Yuji should really only have like average human speed for that to be possible but eh whatever)
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I can throw a car like that frfr
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waow, strong woman...
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Anonymous_Learner
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Yuji was injured from Shibuya and depressed then locked in when he felt like he was about to die to Yuta+Yuta's holding back greatly (but that goes my anti-yuta agenda)
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Bro was not holding back by 2 whole Mach. Also assuming they scale to Mach .35 bro would be holding back to like an eighth of his actual speed
Nah we keeping that locked up fr
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Problem is
1. Yuji is also holding back
2. Yuji is still recovering from Shibuya
3. Yuta is STILL trying to kill Yuji and he wanted to kill him in his initial rush, there's no reason for him to hold back much considering he's planning to revive Yuji anyway
4. Even after the initial rush, Yuta still doesnt just blitz him, even though it would logically be the most effective course of actions
5. They glaze each other back and forth implying Yuji is impressive for Yuta and aint some fodder he can casually blitz (like Naoya did to Yuji)
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Naoya just being a dumbass
Also btw for the scaling blog I’ve made it to reading shibuya. Everything before was pretty much a nothing burger and what we already got (skipped death painting arc cause ngl I don’t remember it having anything and I’ve been reading it physically and I don’t have vol 7)
May try and figure out a way to upgrade the grade 1s tho
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Theres a nobara physicals upgrade in there if i remember, due to her hitting and damaging Eso
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I lowk wanted to hold off on the CRT till LoK's was complete for the upscaling (Geto tanked Yuta's bf, small city Ghetto when?)
Rodriiogo
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Yea...? And the point is that his dismantle at 15F is not at ryu's level since Ryu is more durable than it's AP. Cleave is because it allows Sukuna to adjust it's CE to the one needed to one shot Ryu which is why he says that he can't deal fatal damage to Yuta and Yuji too without physical contact. Physical contact would allow him to use Cleave and adjust the CE output to cut through them just like he did with Ryu. A normal dismantle from 15F Sukuna is City-Mountain level according to Joaki's calcs so Ryu, Yuta and Yuji would scale to that level. That's my point.
What? So you think Sukuna went "hm... yes I actually can just cut through them with a single dismantle but let me lie to my own head and say I need physical contact because I'm holding back". The jujutsu high point isn't to say "every jujutsu high sorcerer is 15F Dismantle level". I used it to prove that Sukuna is indeed talking about yuji and yuta's durability being above his dismantles just like ryu was. Not only because his cursed energy diminished as he said but because they (just like every other jujutsu high sorcerer) got tougher than they were in one month. Yuji went from being below 15F Dismantles and needing Sukuna to be at 10% of his output to survive them to being able to withstand them head on without any fatal damages so Sukuna points out how it isn't just Yuji but everyone somehow got tougher.
Because, despite them also getting tougher, they aren't at heavy hitters level. Sukuna was still confident that dismantles were enough until he tests yuta and yuji's durability which he then gets shocked by how durable they have become in one month. You can't just mix stuff together.
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i just realised that we deadass have MBA kashimo above 15f Sukuna in reaction speed
Im dead
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Just realized that Sun replaced my calc just to get the exact same result
So lazy to beg mods to evaluate it
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Well yeah, Kashimo is 17 fingers so it checks out
Anonymous_Learner
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no, we all ignore it since 15F can blitz bro
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sighhh
Rodriiogo
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Ryu, Shinjuku Yuta and Shinjuku Yuji should scale to 15F Sukuna's dismantle calc AP. Sukuna's physicals being at that level is just a issue of we not having any quantifiable feats for his physicals above his dismantle despite knowing that Sukuna's physicals >> his dismantles
Speed wise they obviously don't scale but physically wise they do scale to his dismantles AP
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What will it take for you to ever accept Kashimo supremacy?
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City lvl dura Mahoraga (only the wheel)
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he used a point blank dismantle against Ryu, he's not touching Ryu, it's simply copium based on a preconception that Cleave has a higher AP when it's not stated that it does. Just that its output is automatically adjusted, whereas Sukuna manually adjusts Dismantle's output
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I know, they'll accept it if you make H7A JJK a thing fo sho!!
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He just HAPPENED to have his arm raised after he blitzed Ryu.
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Ill make it happen!
Rodriiogo
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...? So you're claiming he's lying? Cause sukuna WORD BY WORD: claims that he needed direct contact against him and that's why he also needs to touch Yuji and Yuta. He also literally dashed right at him to touch him in the scene where he kills Ryu. It's made clear that Sukuna touched him icl.
Rodriiogo
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Also the point is that Sukuna's normal dismantle output have a cap, he can't just raise them to his max output otherwise cleave would be literally useless. It's the whole reason shrine uses cleave for anything with cursed energy and only uses dismantles on inanimate objetcts. From a number perspective for better wording:
Imagine 15F Sukuna's max dismantle output is 20, Ryu's durability is 25 so Ryu > Dismantles
Meanwhile cleave despite also being able to be a "10" when fighting someone who has "3" durability can be adjusted to be a "40" against Ryu so it cuts ryu in one fell swoop.
No one is denying that cleave can be weaker than dismantle depending on who it's used. My point is Ryu's durability is so high that regular dismantles from 15F Sukuna can not cut through him so he has to resort to using cleave as cleave just adjusts to Ryu and cuts him regardless.
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Sukuna implies that Cleave could one shot Mahoraga when a point blank Dismantle couldn't unless it's adapted to slashing in general.
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I thought we already got past this bro
EldemadeDityjon
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Mistranslation I guess
Bruh I remember seeing the raws. It also states supernatural powers/abilities iirc. Glazers are twisting the words to their own fitting.
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...? you can physically see he's not close enough to be touching Ryu lmfao, we've already seen him do this exact thing with the first dismantle?
Sukuna is unaware of the extent of damage needed to kill Mahoraga. Neither Cleave or Dismantle have the AOE necessary to completely destroy Mahoraga's body
direct contact =/= Cleave inherently, or else he'd just say Cleave lmfao, there's no reason point blank dismantles would have a different output cap than a Cleave. Cleave's only gimmick is automatic adjustment, NOT higher output...? So you're claiming he's lying? Cause sukuna WORD BY WORD: claims that he needed direct contact against him and that's why he also needs to touch Yuji and Yuta. He also literally dashed right at him to touch him in the scene where he kills Ryu. It's made clear that Sukuna touched him icl.
Sukuna, the man who can't bring himself to try and use his max output against people he's not interested in, has no reason to have an ability that could go to max output regardless of his interest for the sake of killing people. Cleave's ONLY stated gimmick EVER is automatic adjustment, ANYTHING else is PURE headcanon. "It's the whole reason shrine uses cleave for" no, it isn't. This is headcanon.
who is we lmao
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Ban axx too, send him in the asylum with Arkenis
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