Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

[Mommyleona]

featless bum carried by statements and his love over an 8 years old girlfriend

L slander

 

[Buraqibear]

but are you sure

Yes.

Yuki can tank a black hole inside of her?

For a little bit, yeah. Sorcerers have insane endurance (this isn't a calcable feat)

 

[Mommyleona]

For a little bit, yeah. Sorcerers have insane endurance (this isn't a calcable feat)

good luck defending that in a crt

 

[ElJoaki5]

good luck defending that in a crt

Nah, I will be the one doing that

 

[Arkenis]

Anyways yall think Kenjaku withstanding a black hole is a valid feat? Cause its the only thing i can think of that gives consistency for large mountain Sukuna.

What makes your calc valid compared to the one Power did? Also if Dabura's feat is 7B, that's all we really need for the scaling to be accepted. It's that a feat should be backed up with other feats being within a tier or just one below like 8A backing up 7C, especially since its the god tiers doing it.

 

[Rodriiogo]

Consistency is needed

Eh I think it's way too consistent and clear that the heavy hitters are above 15F Sukuna's dismantles to just be ignored:

• Ryu's durability makes him able to survive 16F Sukuna (Post his bath, so his output was back to normal) dismantles without any lethal damage;
• After the 1 month where the heavy hitters boosted themselves, they are compared to this Ryu in durability and Sukuna states that despite not being as tough as Ryu, their durability is also too high for any fatal damage from his dismantles and that he would need direct contact (cleave) to actually do that much damage;

Despite this both of them are overwhelmed physically by the same Sukuna doing said statements. Which would prove that 15FSukuna physically > Ryu > Yuji and Yuta > His dismantles.

Maki and Yuji "barely keeping up with 10% 15F Sukuna" is not really a contradiction since in the same scene, a shower of dismantles can also not do any fatal damage to yuji's body to the point Sukuna was surprised at how sturdy he was. And despite being at 10% of his maximum CE output, Sukuna himself points out how he can move "unhindered" hence why he easily keeps up with both of them.

Basically:
15F Sukuna physically and cleaves > Ryu's Dura >~ Shinjuku Yuji and Yuta's Dura > 15F Sukuna Dismantles > Pre-Shinjuku Yuji > 10% Output 15F Sukuna Dismantles

I think if 15F Sukuna's dismantles are accepted at city - mountain, then so would the heavy hitters narratively

 

[ElJoaki5]

What makes your calc valid compared to the one Power did?

I dont assume displacement in the attack potency calc and I use overall more accurate measurements

Also if Dabura's feat is 7B, that's all we really need for the scaling to be accepted.

We need to wait to see if that is confirmed next chapter.

 

[LaserPrecision]

I mean, even if the feat isn't Large Mountain level, it can still serve as support. 16 Finger Sukuna can one-shot peeps that scale above Kenjaku physically (Ryu. At least I assume everyone here agrees with that...) with Cleave. and 15 Finger can no-diff the Disaster Curses whereas it was stated Mahito and Jogo could give Kenny some trouble.

That said, what I think is better is to calculate the destruction the Black Hole caused, and use inverse square law to find the force acting on Tengen's barrier which withstood the Black Hole without breaking, and scale Sukuna and Gojo above that. The destruction itself looks Tier 7, but accounting for inverse square law, it'll bump it up a bit (As yes, gravitational waves get weaker with distance too).

 

[ElJoaki5]

Someone should calc Gojos shinjuku hp based on the 1 km diameter from Modulo

 

[Arkenis]

Ryu's durability makes him able to survive 16F Sukuna (Post his bath, so his output was back to normal) dismantles without any lethal damage;

He underestimated Ryu, this isn't helpful.

After the 1 month where the heavy hitters boosted themselves, they are compared to this Ryu in durability and Sukuna states that despite not being as tough as Ryu, their durability is also too high for any fatal damage from his dismantles and that he would need direct contact (cleave) to actually do that much damage;

This is after Sukuna's low on output and having his output dropped.

There's no way 16f is much stronger than 15f.

 

[Arkenis]

That said, what I think is better is to calculate the destruction the Black Hole caused, and use inverse square law to find the force acting on Tengen's barrier which withstood the Black Hole without breaking, and scale Sukuna and Gojo above that. The destruction itself looks Tier 7, but accounting for inverse square law, it'll bump it up a bit (As yes, gravitational waves get weaker with distance too).

Ain't ISL for explosions and several calcs using it have been changed because the feat wasn't ISL. Why would this be ISL valid?

 

[ElJoaki5]

I mean, even if the feat isn't Large Mountain level, it can still serve as support. 16 Finger Sukuna can one-shot peeps that scale above Kenjaku physically (Ryu. At least I assume everyone here agrees with that...) with Cleave. and 15 Finger can no-diff the Disaster Curses whereas it was stated Mahito and Jogo could give Kenny some trouble.

That said, what I think is better is to calculate the destruction the Black Hole caused, and use inverse square law to find the force acting on Tengen's barrier which withstood the Black Hole without breaking, and scale Sukuna and Gojo above that. The destruction itself looks Tier 7, but accounting for inverse square law, it'll bump it up a bit (As yes, gravitational waves get weaker with distance too).

Go calc it then

 

[Rodriiogo]

He underestimated Ryu, this isn't helpful.

"If I don't make direct contact I won't leave a 'fatal wound' just as it was with HIM."
Sukuna is admitting he HAD to resort to cleave/physicals to one shot Ryu, him underestimating him was him thinking dismantles would be enough to filet him into three. He didn't use a "weaker dismantle".

This is after Sukuna's low on output and having his output dropped.

Doesn't really matter since in the SAME PAGE, Sukuna says "It's not just because of my diminished cursed energy output from the fight with Satoru gojo either... All of the sorcerers that have shown up from Jujutsu High have extremely tight defenses."

There's no way 16f is much stronger than 15f.

I don't deny that, I'm saying ryu and heavy hitters are comparable/above 15F's dismantles AP. Physically and/or in a fight 15F Sukuna would still maul all of them.

 

[Mommyleona]

That said, what I think is better is to calculate the destruction the Black Hole caused, and use inverse square law to find the force acting on Tengen's barrier

Finally, support for Tengen ~ Kenjaku

 

[AbaddonTheDisappointment]

Yo just wondering what happened to low 7-c Jogo?

 

[ElJoaki5]

Yo just wondering what happened to low 7-c Jogo?

The thing in my thread thats still ongoing?

 

[LaserPrecision]

Ain't ISL for explosions and several calcs using it have been changed because the feat wasn't ISL. Why would this be ISL valid?

Because gravity (especially gravity being applied omnidirectionally) is also subject to inverse square law? I feel that's pretty easy to follow. That's just how the real world works. If it didn't, then it wouldn't matter how far from a body of gravity you are, you'd still be affected by it. The strongest Black Hole would pull us and everything else in from across the universe.

Go calc it then

If my PC still worked I'd give it a shot but it's kinda dead rn.

 

[ElJoaki5]

Can someone like accctually skibidi calc Fuga and Hollow Purple based on the size in modulo, its way better if someone that aint me calcs it cause that way i can actually skibidi evaluate it yk

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

Supernatural abilities next to Gojo ≠ Second strongest in current era. Idk why that statement is still used.

TBF to Yuta glazers, ain't there also this statement?

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Yo just wondering what happened to low 7-c Jogo?

Abaddon, stop the High 7-A Sukuna CRT and nitpick Eljoaki calc

 

[AbaddonTheDisappointment]

The thing in my thread thats still ongoing?

Okay cause if I’m doing the scaling blog imma need that cause if it’s scaling to jogo’s physicals it would upscale basically every grade 1 somewhat

Abaddon, stop the High 7-A Sukuna CRT and nitpick Eljoaki calc

Nah, imma see how this plays out. Gonna be fun to watch

 

[Mommyleona]

Can someone like accctually skibidi calc Fuga and Hollow Purple based on the size in modulo, its way better if someone that aint me calcs it cause that way i can actually skibidi evaluate it yk

I may not have a brain gentlemen, but i have an idea

 

[ElJoaki5]

Okay cause if I’m doing the scaling blog imma need that cause if it’s scaling to jogo’s physicals it would upscale basically every grade 1 somewhat

Dont think so, it was via a lava manip.

 

[AbaddonTheDisappointment]

Can someone like accctually skibidi calc Fuga and Hollow Purple based on the size in modulo, its way better if someone that aint me calcs it cause that way i can actually skibidi evaluate it yk

HP isn’t worth calcing. We have a higher radius off of the OG manga (like 700-800ish m) compared to Modulo (only 500ish) which we already have several calcs of. Fuga is being done by Life iirc

Dont think so, it was via a lava manip.

Ah I see, so just 8-B, low 7-c with CT or something

 

[ElJoaki5]

I may not have a brain gentlemen, but i have an idea

So youre actually gonna calc it pookie? Abbadon already measured how big the craters are so most of the job is done.
(You arent actually right?)

 

[Buraqibear]

Can someone like accctually skibidi calc Fuga and Hollow Purple based on the size in modulo, its way better if someone that aint me calcs it cause that way i can actually skibidi evaluate it yk

It's skibidimidd. Both of them are ass

 

[ElJoaki5]

It's skibidimidd. Both of them are ass

Im sorry dawgraqibear, you can go back to getting the crt out

 

[Mommyleona]

So youre actually gonna calc it pookie? Abbadon already measured how big the craters are so most of the job is done.
(You arent actually right?)

You have too much hope in me
I meant a thing that's probably not allowed (100% not allowed)

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

It's skibidimidd. Both of them are ass

calc it anyway, we need it

 

[LaserPrecision]

So youre actually gonna calc it pookie? Abbadon already measured how big the craters are so most of the job is done.
(You arent actually right?)

 

[ElJoaki5]

You have too much hope in me
I meant a thing that's probably not allowed (100% not allowed)

Oh so you were thinking i calc it and yu post it and i eval it. Very bad.

 

[Mommyleona]

Oh so you were thinking i calc it and yu post it and i eval it. Very bad.

I was just kidding ;X

 

[ElJoaki5]

Whats that mean LauntserPrecision?

 

[LaserPrecision]

Whats that mean LauntserPrecision?

 

[ElJoaki5]

Whats that about?

 

[LaserPrecision]

Whats that about?

You know

 

[Buraqibear]

Uraume IS a reincarnated sorcerer right? Can someone provide the scans?

 

[ElJoaki5]

I was just kidding ;X

KingTempest is listening

Yo btw if youre reading this I could use your vote

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

You know

what's blud spamming that emoji for???

 

[ElJoaki5]

Uraume IS a reincarnated sorcerer right? Can someone provide the scans?