[Mods Evaluations Needed] SoL Attack Speed via Kuuvahki.

[Puppet43]

Sahl already did so…sorry
tho according to googol it says light moves at near sol so its probably gonna drop to sub rela or some shit

Or myabe is just light when processed by the cannon lol

 

[MSahla]

Kuuvahki isn't composed purely by light but there are also elements (Moonwheel) since there's no such things as a pure Kuuvahki (Even the Moon Marrows are defiled by other elemental energy/source), it's the same as Mavuika's powers that's derived from the 6 Obsidian Stones are primarily fire infused with light, for it to be SoL: It has to purely be light only and Moonwheel existing contradicts this

The existence of the Moon Wheel does not contradicts this. The Moon Wheels are the results of kuuvahki as "the original state of light" after being "reflact" into seven different colors. The Moon Wheel users still can manipulate raw kuuvahki whenever they wants.

 

[Saqphire]

You have to make sure kuuvakhi actually moves at SoL outside vacuum which just namedropping light isnt enough

The refraction of light in air (the higher the refractive index, the slower it goes) is giga tiny to the point that it's functionally the same as 100% SOL lol, thus he don't gotta prove it moves at SOL in a vacuum as that's an absurd goalpost; he only gotta prove it is light in air which is already proven a gazillion times.

Also, regardless; Kuuvahki being moonlight is important because it is actually already shown to exist in vacuums; we see moonlight from the moon after Mavuika destroys the false sky and we already accept the sky beyond to be a universe. Unless you're saying the outer universe is now made from air or water or anything with a refractive index, then your goalpost is already fulfilled

 

[PedjaTarzan]

The refraction of light in air (the higher the refractive index, the slower it goes) is giga tiny to the point that it's functionally the same as 100% SOL lol, thus he don't gotta prove it moves at SOL in a vacuum as that's an absurd goalpost; he only gotta prove it is light in air which is already proven a gazillion times.

Also, regardless; Kuuvahki being moonlight is important because it is actually already shown to exist in vacuums; we see moonlight from the moon after Mavuika destroys the false sky and we already accept the sky beyond to be a universe. Unless you're saying the outer universe is now made from air or water or anything with a refractive index, then your goalpost is already fulfilled

Lowkey you should do these kind of crts next time bcs sahl cant write for shit.
Anyway my point is still hard disagree for anyone bar Aino's cannon

 

[Voidnether]

The existence of the Moon Wheel does not contradicts this. The Moon Wheels are the results of kuuvahki as "the original state of light" after being "reflact" into seven different colors. The Moon Wheel users still can manipulate raw kuuvahki whenever they wants.

Iridescent Moon and it's Moon Marrow being defiled by the Abyss? Unless the Abyss are SoL then well

 

[MSahla]

Iridescent Moon and it's Moon Marrow being defiled by the Abyss? Unless the Abyss are SoL then well

Meanwhile Abyss:

So deep were those dark mists that even the light of a thousand stars could not escape their gravity.

 

[Voidnether]

Meanwhile Abyss:

Ain't this just blackhole

 

[MSahla]

Ain't this just blackhole

Abyss can corrupt any and all things, even Light itself.

 

[Puppet43]

Bro be saying anything

 

[MSahla]

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[AsterReal]

It looks good, I guess.

 

[MSahla]

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[TheGreatJedi13]

If the Cannon can convert the light to function in a non-light manner (light curving in an arc or swaying after and before being blocked, etc)

Then scaling it to the speed of light is a little bit haphazard.

I have no contention with it being light as raw Kuuvahki; that much is clear

The refraction of light in air (the higher the refractive index, the slower it goes) is giga tiny to the point that it's functionally the same as 100% SOL lol, thus he don't gotta prove it moves at SOL in a vacuum as that's an absurd goalpost; he only gotta prove it is light in air which is already proven a gazillion times.

Also, regardless; Kuuvahki being moonlight is important because it is actually already shown to exist in vacuums; we see moonlight from the moon after Mavuika destroys the false sky and we already accept the sky beyond to be a universe. Unless you're saying the outer universe is now made from air or water or anything with a refractive index, then your goalpost is already fulfilled

Also i disagree. The curvature is too extreme for it to be simply because of refraction, which clearly shows how the Beam of Light in Aino's cannon.
And the refractive index of the Air is not that high to cause such extreme curving and erratic swaying.

If possible, I'd like to see supposed users without the Aino's cannon. preferably as an attack rather than a way to manipulate objects via pushing or pulling, as shown in the game

if the light meets the standards of real light, then the light manipulation he did will also get a sol, because it is not magic, it is light that really comes from objects that emit real light (such as the moon, sun, stars etc.)

This is true but you can meet the standards of a real light but still falls under disqualifying criteria.
Atm we have 2 qualifying criteria (From OP) and 2 nonqualifying criteria (Swaying and curving, pushing and pulling[radiation pressure can be argued here but im not familiar with its entire process])

There is also this

The beam primarily deals damage by means other than heating materials that absorb it.

A laser may cause explosions, but only if it rapidly vaporizes some matter, meaning that the target needs to be partially destroyed in the process.

Although at the end it shows the area around the Traveler and Flins being heated
it doesn't cause vaporization explosion despite being exposed more

meanwhile stray deflected small beams causes explosion upon hitting other objects.

Although I'm not particularly against this part

 

[MSahla]

If the Cannon can convert the light to function in a non-light manner (light curving in an arc or swaying after and before being blocked, etc)

Then scaling it to the speed of light is a little bit haphazard.

I have no contention with it being light as raw Kuuvahki; that much is clear


Also i disagree. The curvature is too extreme for it to be simply because of refraction, which clearly shows how the Beam of Light in Aino's cannon.
And the refractive index of the Air is not that high to cause such extreme curving and erratic swaying.

If possible, I'd like to see supposed users without the Aino's cannon. preferably as an attack rather than a way to manipulate objects via pushing or pulling, as shown in the game


This is true but you can meet the standards of a real light but still falls under disqualifying criteria.
Atm we have 2 qualifying criteria (From OP) and 2 nonqualifying criteria (Swaying and curving, pushing and pulling[radiation pressure can be argued here but im not familiar with its entire process])

There is also this

Although at the end it shows the area around the Traveler and Flins being heated
it doesn't cause vaporization explosion despite being exposed more

meanwhile stray deflected small beams causes explosion upon hitting other objects.

Although I'm not particularly against this part

So.. Are u basically disagree to this thread?

 

[MSahla]

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[MSahla]

Bump...

I wanna close this thread already.

 

[Vietthai96]

Closing the thread due to OP's request