Fixing Akane's profile

[Flickfanlol]

I've decided to do my most analyzed and favorite character first for a fixing: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Aoi_Akane
First off, Akane's attack potency in supernatural form is not multi-solar system level. Just because he has domain over a boundary, doesn't mean he has the power to create or destroy one. Boundaries still exist even when someone no longer has domain over one:

Instead, I'd argue Akane's attack potency and striking strength in supernatural form as street level+ as shown by him punching a wall in with his bare fists:

This would be fragmentation of steel wall: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/References_for_Common_Feats#Punching_through_a_Wall

Also, each school mystery is not unbeatable in their own boundary, just really difficult to beat. The claim that school mysteries are unbeatable in their own boundary is disproven by Tsukasa beating number three in its own boundary:

Also, it should be specified for the statistic reduction and power nullification that this ability is boundary exclusive. Akane and the other clock keepers only show it inside of their boundary. Also, the owls shouldn't be considered summoning as that isn't the case. The owls are just around the area and deliver messages.

Akane's durability isn't even close to multi-solar system level. He gets hurt when accidentally bumping heads with Hanako, something that isn't shown to be even close to a multi-solar system level intensity event:

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I have no clue where this would put his durability at, but considering he also tanks some, but not all, of Tsukasa's attacks, he's probably athlete or street durability:

I disagree that Akane is intangible in his supernatural form and interacts with people who can't even see him without meaning to such as when he bumps into Lemon:

Furthermore, I would like to add the limited size manipulation of the gavel, specifying that it is specific to his boundary, on Mirai's page. As Akane shows the same ability:

I would also like to add for the time travel ability that he can also send others back in time as shown by him sending Nene back in time in chapter 127 (images courtesy of @neneyashjro on twitter):

 

[AyOgUyS]

Akane's durability isn't even close to multi-solar system level. He gets hurt when accidentally bumping heads with Hanako, something that isn't shown to be even close to a multi-solar system level intensity event:

What if Hanako's head is just that hard?

 

[Flickfanlol]

What if Hanako's head is just that hard?

Do you know of any indications in the manga that Hanako's body is even close to multi-solar system level hardness?

 

[DavidTPPM]

I appreciate your effort but you're not actually addressing any of the arguments for the values. Also the wall level arguments are not good, you'd actually need to calculate the feats you're mentioning.

And many of your supposed anti feats aren't really anti feats and just come down to personal incredulity.

 

[Flickfanlol]

I appreciate your effort but you're not actually addressing any of the arguments for the values. Also the wall level arguments are not good, you'd actually need to calculate the feats you're mentioning.

And many of your supposed anti feats aren't really anti feats and just come down to personal incredulity.

I addressed the argument for his attack potency. Also I did not claim Akane was wall level, though you do have a good point that my calc of that wasn't accurate and that my anti-feats come down to personal incredulity, I'm new to this so I'm getting used to it. According to this, Japanese schools are generally concrete structures. So I'll need to work on calculating that and other feats. Also, there is no explanation of Akane has multi-solar system level durability on the page. My next posts in this thread will be doing the proper calculations.

 

[AyOgUyS]

Do you know of any indications in the manga that Hanako's body is even close to multi-solar system level hardness?

Idk man I dunno this verse at all but I'm just saying his head could just be really hard

 

[DavidTPPM]

I addressed the argument for his attack potency. Also I did not claim Akane was wall level, though you do have a good point that my calc of that wasn't accurate and that my anti-feats come down to personal incredulity, I'm new to this so I'm getting used to it. According to this, Japanese schools are generally concrete structures. So I'll need to work on calculating that and other feats. Also, there is no explanation of Akane has multi-solar system level durability on the page. My next posts in this thread will be doing the proper calculations.

Akane scales to other characters that are 4A. If you want to downgrade it I suggest you should go read through the CRTs that got those ratings accepted in the first place and address those.

 

[Flickfanlol]

According to this, the wall Akane made a dent in was most likely made of hard gypsum board. Gypsum board is also known as drywall. From what I've researched, I think there are better feats to use instead.

 

[Flickfanlol]

Akane scales to other characters that are 4A. If you want to downgrade it I suggest you should go read through the CRTs that got those ratings accepted in the first place and address those.

https://vsbattles.com/threads/toilet-bound-hanako-kun-crt.168327/: "The high tiers of the verse should cap at around Multi-Galaxy or Universal levels of power, with lower tiers scaling to at least solar system to multi-galaxy if we take scaling from the boundary creation."

While I have much bigger issues with this, this line of thinking excludes Akane. Akane shares domain of the clock keepers' boundary, a boundary that existed before he got recruited considering the clock keepers were a school mystery early enough for Hanako to meet them earlier on.

You have a lot of good points about how I need to work more on calcs, but I have good reasonings for wanting to downgrade. Also, while I don't want to be the type of person to overly upscale their fav using loopholes, which is why I didn't mention this, to be accurate to the website, I would add that Akane would be universal with the big clock due to this: "In accordance with the established Tiering System, an event that results in the destruction or creation of a universe or timeline is ranked as Low 2-C (Universe level+). This designation requires that the affected area encompasses a substantial four-dimensional space, exhibits more than countably infinite superiority over three-dimensional spaces, or comprises the entire space-time continuum. To meet these criteria, the entire timeline must be destroyed or created, taking into account all moments in time."

 

[Flickfanlol]

I think I'm going to take a break and collect all my thoughts and calcs first and then come back to this site with a CRT because I clearly came unprepared.