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Alright, I gotta admit that I got a little heated there, but after 6 years of undoing the damage of one Death Battle only for another to do the same thing to a wider audience (and nobody taking the issue seriously), anyone would have done the same.
 
Alright, I gotta admit that I got a little heated there, but after 6 years of undoing the damage of one Death Battle only for another to do the same thing to a wider audience (and nobody taking the issue seriously), anyone would have done the same.
Nobody is going to penalize you for criticizing the show or for being frustrated. You can be angry, you can critique their reasoning, you can call them biased, and you can question their honesty. In short, you can criticize the show. Attacking other members of the community or suggesting the people behind the show might be other than human, however, is not reasonable or acceptable.
 
Alright, I gotta admit that I got a little heated there, but after 6 years of undoing the damage of one Death Battle only for another to do the same thing to a wider audience (and nobody taking the issue seriously), anyone would have done the same.
Sean... I'll speak a last time (also because I am not sure if I can post here), as a genuine advice, grudges aside.

There is no "damage" done, there is not any "holy war" or whatever you fixated yourself with, it's all in your mind and nowhere else. Death Battle is a community, we are our own community, and there are many other VS communities who all think with their own parameters, standards, biases, etc. I learned in the hard way that it's impossible to convince literally everyone in every possible scaling platform in the big Internet, powerscaling is subjective and everything comes down to vibes, interpretations, ways to classify certain feats/statements, etc. There is no way that you can convince every random joe online about your takes, a lot of people just does not care, or simply does not take this hobby as seriously as we do.

You genuinely have to stop treating other fandoms as some kind of satanic cult whose entire purpose is downplaying your favorites. While some people are objectively that petty (personal experience too, but I won't expand on further here), most simply don't care that much and move on. It's not something you do when it comes to Pokémon, you behave the same way with DOOM or EarthBound entirely because of petty matchups (and I feel offended when you shittalk about EB and its fandom indeed given I am huge fan of it myself). You really should stop seeing yourself as a martyr of sorts when people become mean to you because of this behavior of yours, you are just being seen as an obsessed weirdo and nothing else. This behavior of yours is literally why you were banned from that Pokémon server, precisely because you are so abhrasive and refuse to listen to genuine suggestions for the sake of pushing whatever agenda you have.

Having these kinds of meltdowns is not making you look tough, cool or whatever, it just makes you look like someone who spends too much time online and gets angry at images. If anything, these rants would only give more material to people who target and make fun of you.

My advice? Just focus on few scaling communities made of people who genuinely value you for who you are, and stick there without worrying about what other random places say. The VS Battles Wiki isn't going to care about what other Wikis, Death Battle, Reddit, TikTok, etc. are going to say, because why should we? It'd be a waste of time, and it's not worth to waste so much effort and energy either to fight randoms online who ultimately won't matter in your life. It'd do wonders to your mental health, because the way I am seeing it, you're taking what's supposed to be a hobby so seriously that is affecting you emotionally on a personal level.
 
No, I’m not. I saw what you were doing, and I called you out on it.
The comment seems to only refer to Yu-Gi-Oh being friendly to people. No mention is made of Pokemon. Even if such a mention was made, people can be critical of a company for one reason or another. The same rule that means we can criticize DB also means we can criticize other companies.

Also the company behind Yu-Gi-Oh isn't responsible for anything negative here; they just made cards and an anime.
 
The comment seems to only refer to Yu-Gi-Oh being friendly to people. No mention is made of Pokemon.
I will admit after they mentioned Pokémon having YouTube episodes I went to look at the difference out of self-interest since they criticized me for not mentioning it. However at no point did I actively insult either side nor praise one for having a lower/higher amount of free content. It was literally just listing numbers
 
I left a comment telling them to calm down.
Yes. It seems like a good idea to wait and see if he is willing to be reasonable first. 🙏
It doesn't feel like this deserves a ban, but we should add another warning to the tracker for it for the sake of continuing to document the pattern, I think.
 
It doesn't feel like this deserves a ban, but we should add another warning to the tracker for it for the sake of continuing to document the pattern, I think.
And when is the time he deserves a ban?
I would like to point out that SASP is still continuing to be unreasonably rude.

I just said that I was shocked at the amount of free episodes Yugioh had and now he's calling me evil because I made a comparison to their episode count.... which I only made out of interest because they outright called me out for not talking about pokemon in the same sentence
He kept behaving like this even after being reported and replying to it.
 
To be honest, I'm not someone who really gets hurt feelings majority of the time, but this has got to stop.

In the Tensura thread, this guy @Napoleonic01 keeps bringing up my name in a negative light while previously saying some messed up things at the beginning of this month simply for discussing in the thread and disagreeing, which I don't understand why most people there can't fathom someone arguing against their claims about the verse in the thread about the verse.

These are the messages I've been keeping track of, I don't know if they're more or not. Again, Idc what happens in the end, but if it's at least addressed, that's all I can ask for.

Also, there are others who bring my name up which I just see as simple banter, so I'd rather only focus on this one who clearly doesn't have a good filter.

Just a straight disrespectful person, https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/S...clinical/analytical viewpoint.,-Be Reasonable
 
To be honest, I'm not someone who really gets hurt feelings majority of the time, but this has got to stop.

In the Tensura thread, this guy @Napoleonic01 keeps bringing up my name in a negative light while previously saying some messed up things at the beginning of this month simply for discussing in the thread and disagreeing, which I don't understand why most people there can't fathom someone arguing against their claims about the verse in the thread about the verse.

These are the messages I've been keeping track of, I don't know if they're more or not. Again, Idc what happens in the end, but if it's at least addressed, that's all I can ask for.

Also, there are others who bring my name up which I just see as simple banter, so I'd rather only focus on this one who clearly doesn't have a good filter.

Just a straight disrespectful person, https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Site_Rules#:~:text=The Rules-,Be Kind,how to be happy from a more clinical/analytical viewpoint.,-Be Reasonable
Looking through his past posts i do see quite alot of insenstivity and bitterness in his comments along with unfounded accousations like;

Called @TheHyperGuy mentally ill

Says TheHyperGuy should leave the tensura discussion thread just because the latter has a different view of the scaling

Says again here that TheHyperGuy should be blocked from the discussion thread and calls him an "ignorant pest"

Tells Loetkolben to "go cry in the corner" after the latter said he wouldnt be discussing with him anymore

Says that my vote shouldn't count and accuses me of being biased for no reason or base whatsover.
https://vsbattles.com/threads/tense...-ken-discussion-thread-20.107731/post-7422762

https://vsbattles.com/threads/tense...-ken-discussion-thread-20.107731/post-7422776

I think consistency of such behaviour do atleast deserve a strict warning.
 
To be honest, that quote makes so little sense in context that I'm struggling to parse what he actually meant by it.

@Super_Ascended_Sean_Pazdera

What 'evil' are you accusing @Detective_Blizzard of committing, exactly?
He praised Yu-Gi-Oh for having Season 0 on Youtube. Pokemon TV coming to Youtube is a relatively new thing, so I said people are praising only Yu-Gi-Oh for things Pokemon also does. He turned around and said basically, "Erm Yu-Gi-Oh has like 607 episodes on Youtube while Pokemon has 279 lol", He even deliberately left out the fact that Pokemon also has a lot of its movies on Youtube, when he made this comparison nobody asked for.
 
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He praised Yu-Gi-Oh for having Season 0 on Youtube.
No I didn't, while Season 0 was a factor I was moreso referring to the original site i posted which has over 600 episodes. It was also more shock than praise

Edit: rereading it i suppose it can be interpreted as such.... but as I mention later this literally isn't bad in any regard

He turned around and said basically, "Erm Yu-Gi-Oh has like 607 episodes on Youtube while Pokemon has 279 lol", He even deliberately let out the fact that Pokemon also has a lot of its movies on Youtube, when he made this comparison nobody asked for.
I didn't deliberately leave anything out, I just went with episode numbers. Because that is what I referred to in my original comments, movies weren't even on my mind. Plus as you mentioned 'nobody asked for it' since it was just something I wanted to see.

And the cherry on all that...... literally none of that is a sin. You complained about me being suprised at Yugioh for something that Pokémon does without mentioning it, you complained about me comparing the two because your comments made me actually want to research that, and you call me evil for sharing my research with others.

Side Note not relevant to anything because I got interested again: Pokémon does have movies on youtube... but from what I can tell they all are only for buying/renting and not for free like I was looking for. The only ones freely avaliable seems to be pirated content opposed to Yugioh which DOES have movies officially avaliable for free. Sorry for the rant but this topic does genuinely interest me since freely avaliable media seems so rare nowadays.
 
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I'm willing to give @Super_Ascended_Sean_Pazdera one more warning on the condition that any further infractions are met with increasingly lengthy bans.
I want to be reasonable and forgiving, especially since this incident is relatively minor, but I also don't want to become completely complacent over what is clearly a pattern.

And I think @Napoleonic01 clearly needs a serious warning as well.

If no other staff has any objections I can give both and update the tracker.
 
I'm willing to give @Super_Ascended_Sean_Pazdera one more warning on the condition that any further infractions are met with increasingly lengthy bans.
I want to be reasonable and forgiving, especially since this incident is relatively minor, but I also don't want to become completely complacent over what is clearly a pattern.

And I think @Napoleonic01 clearly needs a serious warning as well.

If no other staff has any objections I can give both and update the tracker.
This sounds good to me.

Edit: I thought it would be important to double check history and warning tracker. And mainly focusing on after he has been unbanned, but this post was the original lifting. And I made a firm warning about a final final chance. While not intended to be a "Permaban over the slightest infraction" it was agreed that staff should watch him with a critical eye, and that he is on thin ice. Where an act that would get a new user a pretty good ban length should be a good reason for him to be permabanned.

Now on to the actual Warning Tracker, First warning was here, and another one here, a 3rd strike that lead to another ban here, and another warning which he has yet been given another warning as of recently albeit hasn't been added to the warning tracker over the Pokemon Vs Yu-Gi-Oh Death Battle episode and accusing people blasphemous exaggerations just for telling him to calm down and to stop blowing up. So on second though, we really should take further action I am leading towards. And I think others might agree after refreshing the memory of his history.
 
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@Super_Ascended_Sean_Pazdera has continued the exact same behavior in the Death Battle thread that he was reported for just a few days ago.

He's accusing people of hating Demon Slayer and calling them stupid for disagreeing with his takes on how strong the verse is. And like he was doing with detective blizzard and his comments on Yu-Gi-Oh, he's claiming chariot is being "evil" for pointing out how low quality one of our Zelda profiles are and accuses him of also lying about both Zelda and Demon Slayer.
 
Oh my god bruh.

When the general consensus of the forum is “I hate Demon Slayer” and “the verse gets shitstomped by 8-Cs” and “I hate Sean”, how else am I supposed to respond?
 
Well, I suppose that we will likely have to give him a temporary warning ban in that case. 🙏
That is seeming like the correct course of action at this point.
When the general consensus of the forum is “I hate Demon Slayer” and “the verse gets shitstomped by 8-Cs” and “I hate Sean”, how else am I supposed to respond?
We expect you not to call people stupid, at the very least- though obviously it's probably an exaggeration that anyone here 'hates' you, and it's certainly not a consensus of the entire forum.
 
though obviously it's probably an exaggeration that anyone here 'hates' you
I will give Sean a bare minimum of leeway on that, since I feel it would be unfair to ignore that point entirely. I have seen people making light of him in a few regards, primarily in trying to get them to argue against other users and even making a meme out of his tantrum. Do I think what he is saying is right, not exactly, but to say that there haven't been comments made purely to slight against them for the sake of it isn't unfounded.
 
I will give Sean a bare minimum of leeway on that, since I feel it would be unfair to ignore that point entirely. I have seen people making light of him in a few regards, primarily in trying to get them to argue against other users and even making a meme out of his tantrum. Do I think what he is saying is right, not exactly, but to say that there haven't been comments made purely to slight against them for the sake of it isn't unfounded.
I understand that, but it also occurs to me that most negative feelings towards him seem to stem from exactly this kind of behavior in the first place.

That is to say, he has a history of breaking the rules, and I don't think it's fair to go easy on him just because people are understandably annoyed at him for doing so.

Still, we don't encourage toxicity in any direction, and if you have any particularly bad examples, please present them and we can discuss that too.
 
I understand that, but it also occurs to me that most negative feelings towards him seem to stem from exactly this kind of behavior in the first place.

That is to say, he has a history of breaking the rules, and I don't think it's fair to go easy on him just because people are understandably annoyed at him for doing so.
Hence why I'm not fully calling blame on this since it's a two way street. I'm merely pointing out that not everyone is innocent here

Still, we don't encourage toxicity in any direction, and if you have any particularly bad examples, please present them and we can discuss that too.
I went back to look for the most egregious example, which was making a meme about them. However it seems to have been archived already and as such I can't actually prove it was there. So the only examples possible would be the far lesser examples of people wanting Weekly and Sean to fight over arguments
 
I went back to look for the most egregious example, which was making a meme about them. However it seems to have been archived already and as such I can't actually prove it was there. So the only examples possible would be the far lesser examples of people wanting Weekly and Sean to fight over arguments
I suppose there's not much to do about that other than ask @Joycap to repost it, which I imagine they'll be hesitant to do now.
Unless someone else saved it.
 
I think the behavior leveled at Sean sucks. I think people jumping him at every opportunity (and that video surely is not the last of it, other users in the thread ranted and raved about him far more than he himself was present) creates a circumstance where it is highly unlikely that he will reform.

He broke the rules and these continued outbursts probably should result in a short ban. But Sean is absolutely being instigated into acting out by people who, as far as I can tell, have beef. Posts harassing singular users ought not be tolerated.
 
I think the behavior leveled at Sean sucks. I think people jumping him at every opportunity (and that video surely is not the last of it, other users in the thread ranted and raved about him far more than he himself was present) creates a circumstance where it is highly unlikely that he will reform.

He broke the rules and these continued outbursts probably should result in a short ban. But Sean is absolutely being instigated into acting out by people who, as far as I can tell, have beef. Posts harassing singular users ought not be tolerated.
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Honestly, yeah, I do agree on this. Treating this like a sport is uncalled for, actively trying to make someone crash out or treating them as irredeemable just creates a cycle that only stops when something reaches too dra- I just remembered another example I need to look back on. I'll make another post in a bit but yeah I agree with Bambu on this, couldn't have said it better
 
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He broke the rules and these continued outbursts probably should result in a short ban. But Sean is absolutely being instigated into acting out by people who, as far as I can tell, have beef. Posts harassing singular users ought not be tolerated.
Agreed.
It seems like a short ban for Sean has been largely agreed upon then, and I'd advocate for a strict warning against Joycap, and some kind of warning for the thread at large is probably due.

And what of this case involving Napoleonic? I think a warning here is a good idea too.
 
Posts harassing singular users ought not be tolerated.
I mean, Sean does this too? He's constantly trying to instigate responses at me and calling me 'evil' or berating about how i ignore him (im literally being asked to)

Im not getting properly into this cause idc about ban decision, but it gets to a point on how many times ppl are going to allow Sean to rile up and say whatever he wants, over what i see as a pure delusion when it comes to this whole anti-Digimon, and his decade-long wars in the Ash vs Tai comment sections (its literally 3 days before that DB reaches a decade old and he's still there saying instigative stuff). It feels like theres nothing you can do to have a civil conversation with him if you're not 100% agreeing with his law, and if you disagree with him, you are simply 'lying' and an 'enemy of Pokemon'. His entire outlook at these things is what has earnt him this reputation

Its a community wiki so theres bound to be wide disagreements, but it feels like Sean's takes also just get completely outlandish to lolcow territories, which dont help.
 
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Ok, yeah, I recalled seeing another pretty bad example of this. Sean was talking about s*icide and this was one of the replies. Most replies were mostly saying how it wasn't that serious or how common having a series you like be downplayed or something is, but that comment in particular left a bad taste in my mouth
 
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