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Top 15 Strongest Characters for Every Tier

It's basically instant if you lack resistance.
So instant or "basically"? Because I do think that when dealing with an amp of such magnitude, the difference becomes rather substantial

And also, why is this corruption considered an instant win again? If I remember correctly, Khorne's whole thing is about fight and rampage? So if Rimuru gets corrupted doesn't he just start throwing a lot of attacks at the person who is rather aggressive to him?
Also he does have resistance, just not the 1-A one
EE is definitely one of the 1-A things
What about Death?

Also, do we consider the abilities he has to actively restrict from activating as passive here? Cause that might expand the list a bit with some things I'm more confident in working
 
Is the reason the shout being 1-A in potency as well (So weird) because it is imbued with warp or smth? Like do the chararcters that hear the shout get infected with the 1-A corruption in some way that makes them lose their mind? So Skarbrand has 1-A empathic/whatever and the passive warp corruption? Because like, I get the passive warp storm being 1-A, that makes sense. But why is the shout 1-A?
Both the storm and the shout are 1-A for differing reasons. The storm is just connected to the Warp and spills it's crap everywhere, the shout afflicts people who can enter a warp storm and not have their mind break.
So instant or "basically"? Because I do think that when dealing with an amp of such magnitude, the difference becomes rather substantial
If someone is in a warp storm they're instantly afflicted with no resistance. If you're looking at one its basically immediate. In fact the amp just worsens the effects.
And also, why is this corruption considered an instant win again? If I remember correctly, Khorne's whole thing is about fight and rampage? So if Rimuru gets corrupted doesn't he just start throwing a lot of attacks at the person who is rather aggressive to him?
Most of the time though, you don't attack a Bloodthirster.
What about Death?
You mean the one that doesn't have a timeframe? The same one that doesn't have layers and thus is resisted?
Also, do we consider the abilities he has to actively restrict from activating as passive here? Cause that might expand the list a bit with some things I'm more confident in working
If a character normally restricts passives, they don't start with said passive active.
 
It seems we're back to square one in a way, again 🙏

If the shout causes them to go berserk, then Neo can just use every attack he has, no?

Additionally, does Skarbrand just not resist death to 1-A level? If so, can't Neo just kill him via a thought since he has quite a few layers? Though if Skarbrand resists any esoteric stuff (magic, whatever) to 1-A levels, then it kinda doesn't matter since I don't think Death Manip can even be done without it being esoteric in nature.
 
It seems we're back to square one in a way, again 🙏

If the shout causes them to go berserk, then Neo can just use every attack he has, no?

Additionally, does Skarbrand just not resist death to 1-A level? If so, can't Neo just kill him via a thought since he has quite a few layers? Though if Skarbrand resists any esoteric stuff (magic, whatever) to 1-A levels, then it kinda doesn't matter since I don't think Death Manip can even be done without it being esoteric in nature.
When it comes to death, I can't recall any 1-A haxxers using death, so maybe, but the Warp storm would incap him anyways
 
Most of the time though, you don't attack a Bloodthirster.
Well, "most of the time" still leaves a possibility. Plus Skarbrand did displease Khorne a bit, so even more chances
You mean the one that doesn't have a timeframe? The same one that doesn't have layers and thus is resisted?
No, the death is from Demon Lord Haki (and TD Haki), is instant and has several layers
If a character normally restricts passives, they don't start with said passive active.
K, but what about the corruption stuff then? Wouldn't it just turn off these restrictions?
 
Well, "most of the time" still leaves a possibility. Plus Skarbrand did displease Khorne a bit, so even more chances
Yeah there's a possibility, it's just not over 50%.

Plus Rimuru is running and screaming like a little girl from Gotrek
No, the death is from Demon Lord Haki (and TD Haki), is instant and has several layers
Which isn't ever gonna happen cause part of the passive is based on perception.
K, but what about the corruption stuff then? Wouldn't it just turn off these restrictions?
It'd incap him
 
When it comes to death, I can't recall any 1-A haxxers using death, so maybe, but the Warp storm would incap him anyways
The warp storm takes a while to actually reach its huge size and engulf Neo, no? The passive corruption as well takes a while unless he's inside the warp storm iirc. Can't Neo just kill him then before the warp storm corrupts since his death stuff is thought-based (besides a few)?
 
Why tf is someone that busted 12th?

Idk about the verses you mentioned but saiki is already in top 10 and meng chuan mist definitely has nothing to resist Ada passives. As long as I'm reading his profile right and his supremacy key is the 5B
Meng Chuan doesn't need to when his passives just kill her off rip
Baleful/Baneful Aura is a passive AZ level freeze that shatters the victim and covers 4KM, in addition to other nonsense
The ranking list does need to be updated, considering people like Ata and Ergen characters exist
 
Meng Chuan doesn't need to when his passives just kill her off rip
Baleful/Baneful Aura is a passive AZ level freeze that shatters the victim and covers 4KM, in addition to other nonsense
The ranking list does need to be updated, considering people like Ata and Ergen characters exist
suggestions for the updated 5B list from 12-15th spot lot of candiates from the non smurf thread i am seeing.
 
that does not mean anything considering how people use geller fields in warp storms , they do not resist their mind broken from warp storms.
Do I need to post the ending of Space Marine 2 to tell you Astartes resist Warpstorms?
 
The warp storm takes a while to actually reach its huge size and engulf Neo, no? The passive corruption as well takes a while unless he's inside the warp storm iirc. Can't Neo just kill him then before the warp storm corrupts since his death stuff is thought-based (besides a few)?
"Huge Size" for a Warp storm is like... the size of a planet. A 4 kilometer WS is like, nothing.

Plus, even if he did instant gib Skarbrand, he'd be incapped by the corruption and whatnot too. So the best you got is an incon(which, sharing a spot ain't bad, and I wouldn't complain.)
 
Yeah there's a possibility, it's just not over 50%.
He was aggressive to him and was going to attack him, so the scenario seems more than 50% likely
Which isn't ever gonna happen cause part of the passive is based on perception.
Wha?
It'd incap him
So can you finally decide: does it incap them or turn them into Khorne followers? Either way it does seem like his self-control will weaken

Man, I'm really thinking about just using Velgrynd for this. Her conceptual passive also generates heat
 
He was aggressive to him and was going to attack him, so the scenario seems more than 50% likely
See below.
Looking at a Warpstorm unprotected isn't good for you. It's a thousand times worse when you're actually IN said Warp Storm.
So can you finally decide: does it incap them or turn them into Khorne followers? Either way it does seem like his self-control will weaken
Depends on Rimuru.

He might just ******* explode from the chaos corruption, he might be catatonic, he might turn into a Chaos Spawn, he might be a complete slave to Skarbrand, he might be a complete slave to khorne... this shit has no one size fits all, it ain't up to the whims of Skarbrand.

Considering lack of any Warhammer-rated resistance to speak of... the former three are the most likely.
Man, I'm really thinking about just using Velgrynd for this. Her conceptual passive also generates heat
She'd at most go even.
 
Meng Chuan doesn't need to when his passives just kill her off rip
Baleful/Baneful Aura is a passive AZ level freeze that shatters the victim and covers 4KM, in addition to other nonsense
The ranking list does need to be updated, considering people like Ata and Ergen characters exist
Aura isn't passive. Aura travels from the moment match stats i.e you release your aura. Ada on the other hand already has a passive info type 2 and reality warping mind and emphatic manipulation that stops him from ever attacking. It makes him retract his aura.
Also omnipotence works subconsciously for her. If she doesn't wish to die he'd just be re written
 
Looking at a Warpstorm unprotected isn't good for you. It's a thousand times worse when you're actually IN said Warp Storm.
You replied with the perception part to me talking about Death aura being passive, so I didn't understand the connection. Now it seems like you just replied to a wrong part?
Depends on Rimuru.

He might just ******* explode from the chaos corruption, he might be catatonic, he might turn into a Chaos Spawn, he might be a complete slave to Skarbrand, he might be a complete slave to khorne... this shit has no one size fits all, it ain't up to the whims of Skarbrand.

Considering lack of any Warhammer-rated resistance to speak of... the former three are the most likely.
Exploding is a rather bad scenario for both of them, since he contains a ton of dangerous sh*t within himself, but others idk
Considering this
She'd at most go even.
I can agree to an incon, so a share
 
Aura isn't passive. Aura travels from the moment match stats i.e you release your aura. Ada on the other hand already has a passive info type 2 and reality warping mind and emphatic manipulation that stops him from ever attacking. It makes him retract his aura.
No it don't?
Aura is character-by-character dependent, and it quite literally instantly covers the distance; and even if it didn't, it wouldn't be "slow" enough for her to not instantly die by process of her particles simply just ceasing movement and then ceasing to be
(In addition to the fact that even if that worked she can't actually affect his other body that is well outside of her reach before killing her with Karma shenanigans)
 
You replied with the perception part to me talking about Death aura being passive, so I didn't understand the connection. Now it seems like you just replied to a wrong part?
Yeah, because that's not a passive.

In case you suddenly forgot, Rimuru doesn't have that shit turned on 99/100, and he's corrupted by the time he'd think to do so.
Exploding is a rather bad scenario for both of them, since he contains a ton of dangerous sh*t within himself, but others idk
Considering this
That shit can also just... get ******. Pretty sure Skarbrand matches 50x better into the Slimeverse folks who're spawned anyways, even without a warp storm.
I can agree to an incon, so a share
Just directly note her and Rimuru as why they share, cause just Rimuru ain't gonna cut it.
 
That shit can also just... get ******. Pretty sure Skarbrand matches 50x better into the Slimeverse folks who're spawned anyways, even without a warp storm.
I didn't mean the creatures he swallowed (since he mostly already digested them). I meant the MASSIVE amount of void energy within him which would pretty much generate a giant explosion since it went out of control
Plus he does have High-Godly resurrection
Just directly note her and Rimuru as why they share, cause just Rimuru ain't gonna cut it.
We need to change the character for that spot anyway, so don't see why not
 
No it don't?
Aura is character-by-character dependent, and it quite literally instantly covers the distance; and even if it didn't, it wouldn't be "slow" enough for her to not instantly die by process of her particles simply just ceasing movement and then ceasing to be
(In addition to the fact that even if that worked she can't actually affect his other body that is well outside of her reach before killing her with Karma shenanigans)
It's not passive because if it is then it would be on the profile. You release aura, unless you're trying to tell me dude just walks around 24/7 with everything frozen around him. The match starts and he releases his aura, except he won't release said aura in the first place coz he would already be under Ada passive control.. The only way around this is if he has immeasurable speed which he clearly does not.

Actually she is not targeting his body but his mind and not just the mind there but a more fundamental aspect I.e info type 2 so wherever the **** he is , both his fake body and true body will be under her control.
 
Actually she is not targeting his body but his mind and not just the mind there but a more fundamental aspect I.e info type 2 so wherever the **** he is , both his fake body and true body will be under her control.
Where did Omnipotence get accepted as reality warping and Info type 2 ?

This seems like a passive mind manipulation. And her resistance is just a limitation
 
Where did Omnipotence get accepted as reality warping and Info type 2 ?
I'm assuming you edited your post and it's not that you're doubting that it got accepted
This seems like a passive mind manipulation. And her resistance is just a limitation
It's passive mind and empathic manipulation brought about by info type 2 and reality warping. You have to resist both to resist it. For context Sasuke has 8 layers of mm resistance and it was made meaningless .

"Her resistance is just a limitation" has to be in my top 10 list of crappy statements I've seen on the wiki
 
"Huge Size" for a Warp storm is like... the size of a planet. A 4 kilometer WS is like, nothing.

Plus, even if he did instant gib Skarbrand, he'd be incapped by the corruption and whatnot too. So the best you got is an incon(which, sharing a spot ain't bad, and I wouldn't complain.)
I don't mind sharing a spot, honestly. I assume the WS by default covers the entire thing? Because if it takes a while, Neo could insta-kill ngl, though I'm contend with just sharing a spot for now.

Though, what happens if a character that is sharing a spot, could defeat a few of the uppers spots above it?
 
which spot 2 or 3rd maybe?
It's not like he's invincible, he's still suspectible to some haxes and damages. Neo can incon him, and Wang Wei also with his passives, even if became mad, can still destroy him via the bajillion ap stuff he has and the 4-B attack that is practically undodgable, or the billion danmakus (nevermind that Fate is on his side and won't let him be truly corrupted/dead). It seems like people with huge ap advantage and range can kill him.
 
Wouldn't he just keep coming back eitherway all he needed is to spawn enough warpstorm

SBA assumes 4km, and I think the warpstorms are normally way larger, seeing how entire ships often get sucked into it and thrown to places if not dragged into the waro
 
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Wouldn't he just keep coming back eitherway all he needed is to spawn enough warpstorm
You'd assume so, but he doesn't automatically just return from the RoC in his books, or in WHF.

Not even when a ratman summons him on accident.
SBA assumes 4km and i don't think the warpstorms normally way larger seeing how entire ships often get sucked into it and thrown to places if not dragged into the waro
This sentence is pretty screwey...
 
the "don't" was suppose to be erased
since ships iirc in w40k are pretty big

i guess if returning takes time like 24hrs he really can't win against passives
 
I assume not every warp storm is the same size? Based on the scan I've seen a while ago, we don't have a set size for the initial warp storm, right? We know that it increases to large sizes later on.
 
I assume not every warp storm is the same size? Based on the scan I've seen a while ago, we don't have a set size for the initial warp storm, right? We know that it increases to large sizes later on.
No set size, but eating a ten kilometer ship whole is the norm for 40K.
the "don't" was suppose to be erased
since ships iirc in w40k are pretty big

i guess if returning takes time like 24hrs he really can't win against passives
He technically reforms in the RoC instantly. Problem is actually coming back. While he could, GDs tend to not immediately come back even if there's enough power in the air for them to, and Skarbrand is no exception.
 
Actually she is not targeting his body but his mind and not just the mind there but a more fundamental aspect I.e info type 2 so wherever the **** he is , both his fake body and true body will be under her control.
Considering that both bodies are nigh entirely separate people separated by a multiverse, no lol, esp considering how literally everyone in the story (seemingly) isn't instantly under her control, she isn't affecting the other one
It's not passive because if it is then it would be on the profile. You release aura, unless you're trying to tell me dude just walks around 24/7 with everything frozen around him. The match starts and he releases his aura, except he won't release said aura in the first place coz he would already be under Ada passive control.. The only way around this is if he has immeasurable speed which he clearly does not.
Firstly, both his domains and aura are passive, he just actively suppresses them, which is not going to be the case when SBA starts and she gets caught in the planetary level AoE where her body gets frozen to nothingness and the space she resides in shatters
Secondly, her passive control aint that fucken much (especially how it seems to use Chakra as a medium, which lol, lmao, Seamless domain let alone his stronger shit won't even let that get close to him), considering people can distinctlively resist it though normal means, with it only influencing instincts (which will get hit with the willpower diff), and people can literally still attempt to act against her with the only issue being the mental damage (which once again, willpower diff + mind resist)
 
Anyways, ignoring Skarbrand for now (Assuming he gets a higher spot or incons with Neo), I think Neo should be able beat:

Wang Wei (Can't perma kill him, but can Incap him via various ways)

Kang Han Soo (Doesn't seem anything special, and can just regen everything, and can nuke via 1-B stuff)

Bill Cipher (1-B spatial cut says hi)

Can't really do anything to Tensura characters due to Concept Type 1 bs and being a Concept Type 1 somehow (Unless we assume type 1 doesn't automatically bypass type 2, but I doubt it).
 
Considering that both bodies are nigh entirely separate people separated by a multiverse, no lol, esp considering how literally everyone in the story (seemingly) isn't instantly under her control, she isn't affecting the other one
It's the same mind. Tf are you talking about? Also yeah everyone in the story save for people who have resistance are under her control. Even people in other dimensions
Firstly, both his domains and aura are passive, he just actively suppresses them, which is not going to be the case when SBA starts and she gets caught in the planetary level AoE where her body gets frozen to nothingness and the space she resides in shatters
Highlight the portion of his profile that says "passive". Even if that were the case he isn't blood lusted, he has no knowledge of her abilities. In character it will be suppressed until the match starts. By then it's too late.
Secondly, her passive control aint that fucken much (especially how it seems to use Chakra as a medium, which lol, lmao, Seamless domain let alone his stronger shit won't even let that get close to him), considering people can distinctlively resist it though normal means, with it only influencing instincts (which will get hit with the willpower diff), and people can literally still attempt to act against her with the only issue being the mental damage (which once again, willpower diff + mind resist)
Buddy the guy doesn't have any resistance to RW+info type 2. It will get close to him, nothing can stop it. He just passively becomes her slave.

People can't resist it, not only are you wrong but you are confusing the memory swap with her passive charm? Absolutely no one ever has resisted and attacked her.

The most will power is going to help you do is not become her love bug. Your subconscious will just completely reject the notion of attacking or hurting her. Even people with supernatural will power are powerless.
"Uses chakra as a medium" yeah is it supposed to use haki ? Just give it a rest, he can do absolutely nothing.
 
It's the same mind. Tf are you talking about? Also yeah everyone in the story save for people who have resistance are under her control. Even people in other dimensions
No it aint the same mind, not even the same soul
Highlight the portion of his profile that says "passive". Even if that were the case he isn't blood lusted, he has no knowledge of her abilities. In character it will be suppressed until the match starts. By then it's too late.
An ability doesn't need to say it's passive on the profile for it to be passive, and just because he isn't bloodlusted doesn't mean he's stupid, he isn't going to instantly suppress his aura/strength/domain (that he actively has to do mind you, so she's frozen either way, because we don't assume stuff like that to be auto supressed by SBA), against an enemy he has to kill
People can't resist it, not only are you wrong but you are confusing the memory swap with her passive charm? Absolutely no one ever has resisted and attacked her.


The most will power is going to help you do is not become her love bug. Your subconscious will just completely reject the notion of attacking or hurting her. Even people with supernatural will power are powerless.
Oh ******* really, the scans not only point out how people get differently affected by the powers, but also directly show that people can still think, with the only thing the passive overwrites being their subconscious/instincts, which not only can literally every cultivator ever simply just ignore, especially when they can tell they're being ****** with, only listening to it rather than letting it fully control them, the scan also directly points out how people are entirely capable of thinking under the influence, which considering the number of thought based actions Meng has, he literally can just choose to not retract the aura (not that that would save her after the fact), because his powers are not all rooted in his body. Hell I checked the chapter for this, and Delta literally almost kicks her in the head, and Shikamaru can use his shadows to paralyze her, it clearly isn't as absolute as you're imagining.
Buddy the guy doesn't have any resistance to RW+info type 2. It will get close to him, nothing can stop it. He just passively becomes her slave.

"Uses chakra as a medium" yeah is it supposed to use haki ? Just give it a rest, he can do absolutely nothing.
Chakra, the medium through which her power works, the foreign energy medium that he doesn't have, but not only can't reach him by way of his domains, literally shutting everything out to the level of the laws of reality themselves, or being frozen and shattered completely by the baneful aura, etc etc

"Can do nothing." Neither can she when literally start of battle she gets turned into a popsicle, well before she could make him retract his aura or what have you, he has more than enough willpower to simply just decide to do nothing at the start of battle
 
Anyways, ignoring Skarbrand for now (Assuming he gets a higher spot or incons with Neo), I think Neo should be able beat:

Wang Wei (Can't perma kill him, but can Incap him via various ways)

Kang Han Soo (Doesn't seem anything special, and can just regen everything, and can nuke via 1-B stuff)

Bill Cipher (1-B spatial cut says hi)

Can't really do anything to Tensura characters due to Concept Type 1 bs and being a Concept Type 1 somehow (Unless we assume type 1 doesn't automatically bypass type 2, but I doubt it).
what spot would neo have then?
 
No it aint the same mind, not even the same soul
It still doesn't matter. As long as they are connected it makes no difference. Also it has interdimensional range so no biggie
An ability doesn't need to say it's passive on the profile for it to be passive, and just because he isn't bloodlusted doesn't mean he's stupid, he isn't going to instantly suppress his aura/strength/domain (that he actively has to do mind you, so she's frozen either way, because we don't assume stuff like that to be auto supressed by SBA), against an enemy he has to kill
An ability does infact have to say "passive" coz that's how passive works, it has to be said. You're getting it the other way around. It's not that he is going to supresss it. It is that normally in character he doesn't walk around freezing the planets as he moves. He normally suppresses it and then when he needs to release it to fight he does. So it will be suppressed before match starts via sba and then would be unleashed the moment the fight starts. He can do nothing
Oh ******* really, the scans not only point out how people get differently affected by the powers, but also directly show that people can still think, with the only thing the passive overwrites being their subconscious/instincts, which not only can literally every cultivator ever simply just ignore, especially when they can tell they're being ****** with, only listening to it rather than letting it fully control them, the scan also directly points out how people are entirely capable of thinking under the influence, which considering the number of thought based actions Meng has, he literally can just choose to not retract the aura (not that that would save her after the fact), because his powers are not all rooted in his body. Hell I checked the chapter for this, and Delta literally almost kicks her in the head, and Shikamaru can use his shadows to paralyze her, it clearly isn't as absolute as you're imagining.
They can't ignore that instinct, you know why? Coz it's manipulating them on the level of RW and info type 2 which they don't have resistance to. Your argument makes no sense. And yeah people have different reactions but the common is they can never do anything that can cause her harm. Also check the scan you're bringing up . Ada specifically says "because shadow paralysis is a jutsu that can't cause me harm you are allowed to use it". Don't read just coz you want to win some argument
Chakra, the medium through which her power works, the foreign energy medium that he doesn't have, but not only can't reach him by way of his domains, literally shutting everything out to the level of the laws of reality themselves, or being frozen and shattered completely by the baneful aura, etc etc
no wtf? That is one of the applications of omnipotence and not what the ability is. The ability itself can alter reality at the most fundamental level, that has absolutely nothing to do with chakra.. Also by chakra they mean every energy source available. They call the rotational energy of the planet "earth's chakra"
"Can do nothing." Neither can she when literally start of battle she gets turned into a popsicle, well before she could make him retract his aura or what have you, he has more than enough willpower to simply just decide to do nothing at the start of battle
The battle starts and he can't do or activate anything to harm Ada. He just becomes her slave, case closed. Will power doesn't help you resist rw + info type 2. If you like be supernaturally willed
 
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