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Rule Violation Reports (New forum)

In order to clarify, I did not want to remove the ban, just to lessen it, but if this member has a history of almost consistently behaving badly, that is obviously a much greater problem than what I noticed from here alone. 🙏
 
Antvasima said:
In order to clarify, I did not want to remove the ban, just to lessen it, but if this member has a history of almost consistently behaving badly, that is obviously a much greater problem than what I noticed from here alone. 🙏
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I also did not know they had a history, and at least some kind of long ban does seem basically required in that case.

That said, I wouldn't be opposed to making it something like a year or two instead with the hope that they'll find a way to address whatever in their life is making them so consistently angry.
 
I do think that Antvasima and FinePoint's kindness is very admirable, and that forgiving natures are very valuable things here. Honestly you two, please don't lose that; it's a great quality.

All the same, Mr Bambu's and KLOL's assertion that this person is trouble seems well founded to me. The way they talked and behaved screams troublemaker to me as well.
 
Hagane_no_Saiyajin said:
What is the wiki's stance on incestuous or potentially incestuous pfps?
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ok but why tho

Edit: I thought you wanted one 😭 my b
 
I'd like to preface I realised what I said was out of pocket. Although, it can be talked about, I'm sure it'll make people uncomfortable and should be done in private.

Apologies.
 
Hagane_no_Saiyajin said:
What is the wiki's stance on incestuous or potentially incestuous pfps?
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I think our judgement of pfps should be concerned with whether they, without access to any outside information, depict anything explicit.

Since the stuff you're describing would presumably require knowledge of the source material (unless people are doing some intentional boundary-pushing), I don't think we should concern ourselves with it. Trying to get involved in that can lead to pretty silly things, and is generally a quagmire that doesn't actually affect anyone that isn't already afflicted with other knowledge.

As extensions of this, I think we should allow pfps that are cropped from or allusions to disturbing content, unless that is decipherable and explicit from the PFP itself. And I think that we should disallow pfps that include reasonably-deciphered explicit material (i.e. URL to a **** website under a basic cipher).
 
I essentially agree with Agnaa regarding the PFP issue.

We don't typically base our policies for showing fictional content on what is illegal in real life. If we did we'd have to ban all depictions of murder which would be a disaster for obvious reasons.

As it stands, the PFP isn't actually explicit, so I think it's fine.
 
Reporting @TheHyperGuy for using MTL.

Once here in the "No Uni destroyer" section:
vsbattles.com

A Revision about a World of Slimes - Back to Tier 2 (Cosmology)

Introduction Good morning/evening everyone, hope ya'll are doing fine. Considering Volume 22 has added some more context to what we thought before, I decided to try a revision to get the verse back to Tier 2 in general. As always, avoid any toxic behavior or derailing! Also, don't start...
vsbattles.com vsbattles.com

Here in "V23 + raws"
vsbattles.com

A Revision about a World of Slimes - Back to Tier 2 (Cosmology)

Introduction Good morning/evening everyone, hope ya'll are doing fine. Considering Volume 22 has added some more context to what we thought before, I decided to try a revision to get the verse back to Tier 2 in general. As always, avoid any toxic behavior or derailing! Also, don't start...
vsbattles.com vsbattles.com

Here, apparently giving a translation without any source:
vsbattles.com

A Revision about a World of Slimes - Back to Tier 2 (Cosmology)

Introduction Good morning/evening everyone, hope ya'll are doing fine. Considering Volume 22 has added some more context to what we thought before, I decided to try a revision to get the verse back to Tier 2 in general. As always, avoid any toxic behavior or derailing! Also, don't start...
vsbattles.com vsbattles.com

Here again:
vsbattles.com

A Revision about a World of Slimes - Back to Tier 2 (Cosmology)

Introduction Good morning/evening everyone, hope ya'll are doing fine. Considering Volume 22 has added some more context to what we thought before, I decided to try a revision to get the verse back to Tier 2 in general. As always, avoid any toxic behavior or derailing! Also, don't start...
vsbattles.com vsbattles.com

Also, from previous threads, he's very well aware that MTL will get him in trouble and that it isn't allowed. As shown here and here. He also likes to talk about how MTL is unreliable outside vsbw, though I'm not sure if this serves as anything.

The other case of MTL Usage is by @PHANtomFELdway in the same thread, who has used MTL in his replies to Hyperguy as well.
 
Ciel_Trinity439 said:
Reporting @TheHyperGuy for using MTL.

Once here in the "No Uni destroyer" section:
vsbattles.com

A Revision about a World of Slimes - Back to Tier 2 (Cosmology)

Introduction Good morning/evening everyone, hope ya'll are doing fine. Considering Volume 22 has added some more context to what we thought before, I decided to try a revision to get the verse back to Tier 2 in general. As always, avoid any toxic behavior or derailing! Also, don't start...
vsbattles.com vsbattles.com

Here in "V23 + raws"
vsbattles.com

A Revision about a World of Slimes - Back to Tier 2 (Cosmology)

Introduction Good morning/evening everyone, hope ya'll are doing fine. Considering Volume 22 has added some more context to what we thought before, I decided to try a revision to get the verse back to Tier 2 in general. As always, avoid any toxic behavior or derailing! Also, don't start...
vsbattles.com vsbattles.com

Here, apparently giving a translation without any source:
vsbattles.com

A Revision about a World of Slimes - Back to Tier 2 (Cosmology)

Introduction Good morning/evening everyone, hope ya'll are doing fine. Considering Volume 22 has added some more context to what we thought before, I decided to try a revision to get the verse back to Tier 2 in general. As always, avoid any toxic behavior or derailing! Also, don't start...
vsbattles.com vsbattles.com

Here again:
vsbattles.com

A Revision about a World of Slimes - Back to Tier 2 (Cosmology)

Introduction Good morning/evening everyone, hope ya'll are doing fine. Considering Volume 22 has added some more context to what we thought before, I decided to try a revision to get the verse back to Tier 2 in general. As always, avoid any toxic behavior or derailing! Also, don't start...
vsbattles.com vsbattles.com

Also, from previous threads, he's very well aware that MTL will get him in trouble and that it isn't allowed. As shown here and here. He also likes to talk about how MTL is unreliable outside vsbw, though I'm not sure if this serves as anything.

The other case of MTL Usage is by @PHANtomFELdway in the same thread, who has used MTL in his replies to Hyperguy as well.
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I’d like to say that the only time i recall using mtl is something i did unknowingly and was only informed of.

This post in which i copy and pasted of an explanation that was used and accepted months ago without checking the scans. The scans just happened to have mtl. The comment doesn’t really add anything new so nothing would change if it was deleted.

Post in thread 'A Revision about a World of Slimes - Back to Tier 2 (Cosmology)'
https://vsbattles.com/threads/a-rev...-back-to-tier-2-cosmology.185815/post-7410734
 
Vietthai96 said:
@TheHyperGuy
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I kept all the RAWs with it, with the idea that other people can translate it to check it.

I check each time I do so with Jisho, and with other dictionaries in order to make sure everything is fine. I dont post something like this without full confidence in what it says. I cant exactly get these translated by the staff since 2 of my translations requests this last month still have been unanswered, and time doesnt stop on other threads.

I made an error with one situation where I grabbed it straight from and mtl pdf, and thats on me and i apologize for that, but instead of waiting for translators to come, which could take weeks, I wanted to progress the conversation forward. If anyone wants to double check my translations and whether or not they are correct, then by all means do so.
 
Ciel_Trinity439 said:
Reporting @TheHyperGuy for using MTL.

Once here in the "No Uni destroyer" section:
vsbattles.com

A Revision about a World of Slimes - Back to Tier 2 (Cosmology)

Introduction Good morning/evening everyone, hope ya'll are doing fine. Considering Volume 22 has added some more context to what we thought before, I decided to try a revision to get the verse back to Tier 2 in general. As always, avoid any toxic behavior or derailing! Also, don't start...
vsbattles.com vsbattles.com

Here in "V23 + raws"
vsbattles.com

A Revision about a World of Slimes - Back to Tier 2 (Cosmology)

Introduction Good morning/evening everyone, hope ya'll are doing fine. Considering Volume 22 has added some more context to what we thought before, I decided to try a revision to get the verse back to Tier 2 in general. As always, avoid any toxic behavior or derailing! Also, don't start...
vsbattles.com vsbattles.com

Here, apparently giving a translation without any source:
vsbattles.com

A Revision about a World of Slimes - Back to Tier 2 (Cosmology)

Introduction Good morning/evening everyone, hope ya'll are doing fine. Considering Volume 22 has added some more context to what we thought before, I decided to try a revision to get the verse back to Tier 2 in general. As always, avoid any toxic behavior or derailing! Also, don't start...
vsbattles.com vsbattles.com

Here again:
vsbattles.com

A Revision about a World of Slimes - Back to Tier 2 (Cosmology)

Introduction Good morning/evening everyone, hope ya'll are doing fine. Considering Volume 22 has added some more context to what we thought before, I decided to try a revision to get the verse back to Tier 2 in general. As always, avoid any toxic behavior or derailing! Also, don't start...
vsbattles.com vsbattles.com

Also, from previous threads, he's very well aware that MTL will get him in trouble and that it isn't allowed. As shown here and here. He also likes to talk about how MTL is unreliable outside vsbw, though I'm not sure if this serves as anything.

The other case of MTL Usage is by @PHANtomFELdway in the same thread, who has used MTL in his replies to Hyperguy as well.
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Vietthai96 said:
@TheHyperGuy
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I would also like to note that the use of MTL is additionally prohibited by a Discussion Rule of the verse this takes place in
 
TheHyperGuy said:
I kept all the RAWs with it, with the idea that other people can translate it to check it.

I check each time I do so with Jisho, and with other dictionaries in order to make sure everything is fine. I dont post something like this without full confidence in what it says. I cant exactly get these translated by the staff since 2 of my translations requests this last month still have been unanswered, and time doesnt stop on other threads.

I made an error with one situation where I grabbed it straight from and mtl pdf, and thats on me and i apologize for that, but instead of waiting for translators to come, which could take weeks, I wanted to progress the conversation forward. If anyone wants to double check my translations and whether or not they are correct, then by all means do so.
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That's not the problem. The problem is that MTL is straight up banned.

Regardless of whether you translate it yourself or translate it using MTL and check with dictionaries, that's still not allowed unless you're a staff member (Like @SeijiSetto) or someone who's been approved by a staff member (like @MrTayman616)

All other members follow that rule and wait for their translation, even if it takes days or weeks. So nothing makes you an exception.
 
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Ciel_Trinity439 said:
That's not the problem. The problem is that MTL is straight up banned.

Regardless of whether you translate it yourself or translate it using MTL and check with dictionaries, that's still not allowed unless you're a staff member (Like @SeijiSetto) or someone who's been approved by a staff member (like @MrTayman616)
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Where is it straight up banned? I know the uses of it are not advised, but I didnt see a ruling for that, if that is the case somewhere, I apologize but again, I bring up raws mostly everytime for others to check.
 
TheHyperGuy said:
Where is it straight up banned? I know the uses of it are not advised, but I didnt see a ruling for that, if that is the case somewhere, I apologize but again, I bring up raws mostly everytime for others to check.
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You know it's not just "not advised" but not allowed outright

vsbattles.com

Tensura is NOT a multiverse! (Tensura cosmology downgrade)

smh this is why we should wait for @EldemadeDityjon's thread I legit just made an account to join in on these conversations, I wasn't aware he was going to. I mean, we don't need to continue this if we want to wait for said thread. Also, It's been an entire month since the other CRTs from him...
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TheHyperGuy said:
Where is it straight up banned? I know the uses of it are not advised, but I didnt see a ruling for that, if that is the case somewhere, I apologize but again, I bring up raws mostly everytime for others to check.
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It is discouraged by some of the wiki pages
Additionally, as I said before, the Tensura Discussion Rule straight up prohibits the usage of MTL for arguments
Due to the recurring issue of misleading or dishonest machine-translated (edited-MTL) content within this verse (both WN and LN), particularly when used to support major arguments or upgrades, the use of human-edited MTLs is strictly prohibited unless they are verified by one of the official Translation Helpers (TLs) or a user with proven fluency in Japanese. However, exceptions may be made for human-edited MTLs originating from well-regarded and trusted sources that show no signs of intentional misrepresentation or manipulation, such as Slimereader. This is to ensure accuracy, consistency, and prevent misinterpretation or manipulation of source material. Any future CRTs or profile changes that use unverified human-edited MTLs will be considered invalid and subject to reversal
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AlexSamDen said:
It is discouraged by some of the wiki pages
Additionally, as I said before, the Tensura Discussion Rule straight up prohibits the usage of MTL for arguments
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Is this said anywhere, from memory and looking back, I dont see anytime I was called out for doing something prohibited, or the person who replied to me using mtl. And I dont have much time to look through it I im going to work soon

So my mistake, but I didnt see anything regarding complete prohibition.

And even if that is the case, whats the different in me just sending the raws with my own interpretation, vs the raws plus a machine translation underneath?
 
Ciel_Trinity439 said:
You know it's not just "not advised" but not allowed outright

vsbattles.com

Tensura is NOT a multiverse! (Tensura cosmology downgrade)

smh this is why we should wait for @EldemadeDityjon's thread I legit just made an account to join in on these conversations, I wasn't aware he was going to. I mean, we don't need to continue this if we want to wait for said thread. Also, It's been an entire month since the other CRTs from him...
vsbattles.com vsbattles.com
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Slime reader uses mtl vol 16 and up, so are those not allowed?

And i didnt remember seeing that, but again I was mostly looking for a ruling, not a passing comment easily overlooked. Cause if its a bannable offense, or seems like it, id like to know where the ruling is on that.
 
TheHyperGuy said:
Slime reader uses mtl vol 16 and up, so are those not allowed?

And i didnt remember seeing that, but again I was mostly looking for a ruling, not a passing comment easily overlooked. Cause if its a bannable offense, or seems like it, id like to know where the ruling is on that.
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Have you been to the rules section yet, or even the verse page?

Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken Rules​

  • Due to the recurring issue of misleading or dishonest machine-translated (edited-MTL) content within this verse (both WN and LN), particularly when used to support major arguments or upgrades, the use of human-edited MTLs is strictly prohibited unless they are verified by one of the official Translation Helpers (TLs) or a user with proven fluency in Japanese. However, exceptions may be made for human-edited MTLs originating from well-regarded and trusted sources that show no signs of intentional misrepresentation or manipulation, such as SlimeReader. This is to ensure accuracy, consistency, and prevent misinterpretation or manipulation of source material. Any future CRTs or profile changes that use unverified human-edited MTLs will be considered invalid and subject to reversal.
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Discussion rules

Discussion Rule​

Due to the recurring issue of misleading or dishonest machine-translated (edited-MTL) content within this verse (both WN and LN), particularly when used to support major arguments or upgrades, the use of human-edited MTLs is strictly prohibited unless they are verified by one of the official Translation Helpers (TLs) or a user with proven fluency in Japanese. However, exceptions may be made for human-edited MTLs originating from well-regarded and trusted sources that show no signs of intentional misrepresentation or manipulation, such as Slime Reader. This is to ensure accuracy, consistency, and prevent misinterpretation or manipulation of source material. Any future CRTs or profile changes that use unverified human-edited MTLs will be considered invalid and subject to reversal.
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Verse page
 
Reiner04 said:
It just seems to be a misunderstanding regarding the site rules related to the usage of translations, and as far as I'm aware, it's his first violation, so I don't think any action needs to be taken here for now.
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i don't think this is missunderstanding when a user already warned him in his own thread in the past, here
 
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AnviIndo28 said:
i don't think this is missunderstanding when a user already warned him in his own thread in the past, here.
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Your link doesn't work, here's the link
vsbattles.com

Tensura is NOT a multiverse! (Tensura cosmology downgrade)

To start this off, yes I'm aware of the click bait type title, but I am 100% confident in saying that and proving why, and to preface, this is my FIRST forum post, so If i need to work on some things or change things for the future, let me know and I'll fix that up! Also I don't know who to tag...
vsbattles.com vsbattles.com
 
AnviIndo28 said:
i don't think this is missunderstanding when a user already warned him in his own thread in the past, here.
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From the conversation above it seems they believed MTL were simply discouraged, when in fact it was strictly banned.. now that they are aware of it, no action needed to be taken unless repetition happens from here on.

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TheHyperGuy said:
Slime reader uses mtl vol 16 and up, so are those not allowed?

And i didnt remember seeing that, but again I was mostly looking for a ruling, not a passing comment easily overlooked. Cause if its a bannable offense, or seems like it, id like to know where the ruling is on that.
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TWILIGHT-OP said:
Your link doesn't work, here's the link
vsbattles.com

Tensura is NOT a multiverse! (Tensura cosmology downgrade)

To start this off, yes I'm aware of the click bait type title, but I am 100% confident in saying that and proving why, and to preface, this is my FIRST forum post, so If i need to work on some things or change things for the future, let me know and I'll fix that up! Also I don't know who to tag...
vsbattles.com vsbattles.com
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yeah, edited it, somehow when copying msg link in mobile also include the title..
 
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