This is why my proposed characters should be all included in the ramifications rather than rushing the main ones you are proposing in this thread. Recent anime scaling (relevant to a good portion of my CRT) has made this clearer and this is still using old outdated scaling. We should all conclude on the AP acceptance then make a separate thread for this.
Well, if you prefer to do everything for the scaling in a new thread is fine for me.
One doubt, but I think what happened was that S0 had an higher feat so that was what the SK scaled off, but since now the SK/Senna will have an higher feat, what would be the justification to scale S0 to it?
won't it make the gremmy feat useless?
What do you mean? Gremmy tier characters are different and they would still scale to the gremmy feat.
Blut amp is 10 times due to scaling to Bankai. And Renji's Shikai and whatever should downscale 10x from his Bankai
It only becomes 10 times if it is downscaling from the feat, if it is upscaling from the feat, it is 5 times.
Fair I agree with this.
Ehh, that would make them scale to reio, post 9 years strength yhwach and true shikai ichigo which isn't true. Ichigo quickly defeated awakened uryu protected by blut who is comparable to senjumaru and he also cut reio (who is logically stronger than the sqaud zero) in half and dominated yhwach who is also stronger than the sqaud zero. So I don't see them scaling to reio, Yhwach or ichigo.
Well it doesn’t. Cause SZ only scaling to 3 universe while reio tiers scaling to Garganta
To which I think it is time to discuss who should be x5 - 10x for Bankai/Blut Multipliers, esp for Future CRTs.
I have been trying to get across to damage since he was originally following the thread but I haven't had a response yet.
Oh ofc, if not it could even be Staff Thread, if necessary
Well, as of this thread (technically accepted, though rules haven't been updated; should probably bump that actually) the scaling needs to be mentioned here.
Just a quick correction, the value is 3.68, not 3.7.
You could make a CRT for it but I don't see any evidence directly linking them to that rating
Ichigo used blut venes in that fight, he used it block a sneak arrow from uryu that he didn't expect, it is more than likely an ichigo that is expecting and seeing uryu about to blow his torso off would not use blut when he used it on weaker shots.
You are right. Since @DragonZeroNova said it's 3.68 yotta foe then the pre time skip scaling would look like.
Can I just make a full detailed scaling ramifications here and get it approved here instead of making another CRT and maybe link it to bleach verse blog? So everyone can understand the scaling for future purposes?
I don't do CRTs directly.
Yes Ichigo used Blut Vene on that scene, but that doesnt mean he used Blut on every sungle occassion. It would've showed the blue reishi veins of Blut Vene when he was pierced, especially when they literally showed it just like when he took the sneak arrow that showed he had Blut Vene to Uryu. And If Ichigo was expecting that shot… he would've easily dodged it.
thats exactly what it means, it is the same way we powerscale every quincy scaling. We didn't scale ichigo blut before because we didn't know ichigo could use blut at will or even use blut in this key and since the anime shows him using blut instinctively from a weaker uryu sneak attack it would make no sense for him not to suddenly use it when uryu got much stronger and is now entering a shooting stance directly in front of him. Ichigo isn't an idiot and he had a lot time to use it before uryu blew his body off.
How would we see it? We don't see anything in that area until its blown off. You can't even tell he didn't use blut in that instance.
You would have to explain why his blut vene kicked in there much faster, but it didn't kick in here.
Leaving the Blut part alone cause I'm still in the process of making a CRT for that so we'll roll with this for now.
It is more or less about HOS Ichigo being able to survive attacks from SK yhwach who crushed his attack. Thats why I had him scale to it. His super attack should be even higher than that with power scaling.
Hmm, I think that part might qualify for circular scaling. We get the 368 Yottafoe from Ichigo's attack, but his base hollow form is supposed to be 10x less. If we make his merged hollow form 368 Yottafoe, then his attack would be 10x higher at 3.68 Ronnafoe, which then goes to Yhwach, which would go back to Merged Hollow form. I think we should just have his regular Merged Hollow Shikai be at 36.8 Ronnafoe and his attack (alongside the others who scale include Yhwach of course) be at 368, like on their profiles rn.
The CRT was for the evaluation and acceptance of two feats; one LS and the other AP.
Fair, I have separated merged hollow form shikai ichigo from that rating and with blut.
Will your blut CRT downscale or upscale their blut?
so Galaxy level — 3.7 yottafoe
Uh, hopefully they'll be 10x (not all Blut users, just them (Uryu, Yhwach, Ichigo)
To be specific, 3.68 (which is what we'll be using on the profiles for accuracy). But yes. The rest of the numbers is figuring out multipliers and stuff.
The issue I have is that the OP is jumping from 5x to 10x for Blut increases. Looking at the profiles, it's considered a 10x currently, so I used that instead and had to rewrite everything after the calc value
| Value | SI Unit | Statistic Reason | Characters | Tier |
| 1.2266666e+66 Joules | 12.26 ZetaFoe | Calc / Sklaverei (x3) / Blut (x10) / Bankai (x10) | Renji | 3-C |
| 1.22666e+67 Joules | 122.66 ZetaFoe | Calc / Sklaverei (x3) / Blut (x10) | Bankai Renji, Base Uryu | 3-C |
| 1.2266666e+68 Joules | 1.226 YottaFoe | Calc / Sklaverei (x3) | Royal Guard / Uryu with Blut / Renji's Zagai Zekko | 3-C |
| 3.68e+68 Joules | 3.68 YottaFoe | Calc Value | Fourth Form Aizen / Senna's Death Explosion / Awakened Yhwach / True Shikai Ichigo / Reio / Uryu with Blut & Sklaverei | 3-C |
| 3.68e+69 Joules | 36.8 YottaFoe | Calc Value x 10 (Blut / Hollowification / Getsuga Twoshio) | Uryu with Vollständig / Yhwach's Blut / Ichigo's Blut & Jujishio / Merged Hollow Ichigo | 3-B |
| 4.416e+69 Joules | 44.16 YottaFoe | Calc x 12 | Ultra-Fragor / Dangai Ichigo | 3-B |
| 3.68e+70 Joules | 368 YottaFoe | Value 1: Calc Value x 10 (Blut) x 10 (Hollowification) Value 2: Calc Value x 10 (Bankai or Getsuga) x 10 (Hollowification) | Value 1: Merged Hollow Ichigo's Blut Value 2: Merged Hollow Ichigo's Bankai / TYBW Aizen / SK Yheach / Ikomik / CFYOW Kenpachi / Amped Hikone / Amped Ginjo | 3-B |
| 3.68e+71 Joules | 3.68 RonnaFoe | Calc Value x 10 (Blut or Getsuga) x 10 (Hollowification) x 10 (Bankai) | Merged Hollow Bankai Ichigo's Blut / SK Yhwach's Blunt | 3-B |
| 3.68e+72 Joules | 36.8 RonnaFoe | Calc Value x 10 (Grand Ray Cero) x 10 (Hollowification) x 10 (Bankai) x 10 (Getsuga) | Merged Hollow Bankai Ichigo's Cero Creciente / Prime Reio | 3-B |
I was just going to leave it alone to do on my own time, but since you've done it here, then yeah, the values should probably be used.
While I don't mind that, what are the justifications for the form jumps to be 3-10x increases?
Has Ichigo ever used Blut for combat purposes?
His Blut for offensive purposes is currently a possibly in rating. Idr if he used it offensively against Uryu/Yhwach cour 3, but yeah. Even if we don't have it as a solid rating, it should be a "possibly" (unless someone wants to rewatch Ichigo vs Uryu 1 and 2 alongside Ichigo vs Yhwach to figure that out)
He has not (as far as I remember), but I think it's indexed because he can, theoretically.
