Absolute Universe DC Comics Discussion Thread

[Chariot190]

Weird enough, would Batman be Peak Human at best? I don't remember any speed feat other than some upscaling from a guy who is stated to be capable to catch bullets from 20 meters. The annual issue also doesn't seem to have any feats from what I have seen

Annual he dodges high velocity rounds from a few meters way. There could be a second one but that one is vague and it's hard to tell if he missed or Batman dodged it.

Though besides that, there's him reacting to a RPG being fired, and then infusing venom and tackling, which is subsonic (basically had like a 0.02 to 0.03 seconds to do all that going by the weapon's mechanisms).

He also has some blitzing feats that'd put him superhuman to subsonic. He isn't slow, he's just not that fast compared to usual street dudes, but it's only been 12 issues so like.

 

[Tllmbrg]

Though, I wouldn't call it "equipment tier", again, we don't actually know what he used to do it. For all we know he just shoved a few tons of C4 at some key points. It's not usable outside of prep trapwork till further notice.

I mean, this guy should probably have a prep end for his AP too so

 

[Hellbeast]

Hey got a calc for Bane's feat so wanted some opinions on the math and how to improve it if possible

Annual he dodges high velocity rounds from a few meters way. There could be a second one but that one is vague and it's hard to tell if he missed or Batman dodged it.

Yeah it's vague but it's there, Its weird to quantify tho

Though besides that, there's him reacting to a RPG being fired, and then infusing venom and tackling, which is subsonic (basically had like a 0.02 to 0.03 seconds to do all that going by the weapon's mechanisms).

I think this one is muddy since Bruce himself mentions Venom let him see 50 steps ahead of what the Red Hoods were doing so it's possible he used AP and IA to basically see the move before it happened?
It's weird

He also has some blitzing feats that'd put him superhuman to subsonic. He isn't slow, he's just not that fast compared to usual street dudes, but it's only been 12 issues so like.

Yeah I think the WW crossover would give us some decent stuff since he'll be finally interacting with the larger setting and characters who are fast

 

[Chariot190]

Hey got a calc for Bane's feat so wanted some opinions on the math and how to improve it if possible

Post it.

Yeah it's vague but it's there, Its weird to quantify tho

I mean it's easy af to calc, it's just hard to tell if it's even a feat at all. If we assume he side stepped it tho it's easy to quantify.

I think this one is muddy since Bruce himself mentions Venom let him see 50 steps ahead of what the Red Hoods were doing so it's possible he used AP and IA to basically see the move before it happened?

Having IA means nothing if he visually doesn't begin moving till after it's fired.
And idk where you're getting AP playing a factor in a speed feat at all.

Yeah I think the WW crossover would give us some decent stuff since he'll be finally interacting with the larger setting and characters who are fast

Do they have any speed feats? I haven't been reading WW.

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Green Lantern does have tons of feats. The Lanterns can literally create a big explosion on the moon and cross solar systems. Abin Sur could also lift this for several days without problem

It's def the strongest so far between the comics (stats wise). It migh be worth to calc for future scaling

 

[Hellbeast]

Post it.

Already posted

I mean it's easy af to calc, it's just hard to tell if it's even a feat at all. If we assume he side stepped it tho it's easy to quantify.

That's what I mean, the vagueness is in whether its an aim dodge or an actual reaction feat

Having IA means nothing if he visually doesn't begin moving till after it's fired.

I mean considering how advanced it apparently is, it could certainly help him out. Especially when I don't believe he dodged it himself (have to re-read)

And idk where you're getting AP playing a factor in a speed feat at all.

Analytical Prediction

Do they have any speed feats? I haven't been reading WW.

Yeah she keeps up with Mach speed jets and reacts to what seems like lasers from the Harbinger Prime

 

[Chariot190]

Already posted

Idk how to say it nicely but goddamn
Obviously there's issues, it's just kind of shocking how blatant they are, like not a single value used there is legit, and some even outright contradict each other (4s freefall and 145m freefall are outright impossible to coexist).

That's what I mean, the vagueness is in whether its an aim dodge or an actual reaction feat

Prob do it anyway just to have.

I mean considering how advanced it apparently is, it could certainly help him out. Especially when I don't believe he dodged it himself (have to re-read)

He didn't dodge it, he blitzed it. he moved after it was fired, but before it really even left the barrel. That's a timeframe of like 0.02 seconds using the actual weapon as a point of reference.
He doesn't begin moving till after that fact.

Knowing someone will do something doesn't effect or change your speed, he still went from Point A to point B within a certain amount of time. This ain't DBZ where IA is also secretly a 1000x speed amp.

Analytical Prediction

Oh ok, as above.

Yeah she keeps up with Mach speed jets and reacts to what seems like lasers from the Harbinger Prime

Post those? If they're easy to calc I might take a shot at them when I have time if we're sure Bats will end up scaling.

 

[Hellbeast]

Idk how to say it nicely but goddamn
Obviously there's issues, it's just kind of shocking how blatant they are, like not a single value used there is legit, and some even outright contradict each other (4s freefall and 145m freefall are outright impossible to coexist).

Its not mine If that makes you feel better
And if you have any corrections feel free to post them into the comments of the blog to keep it on topic

Prob do it anyway just to have.

eh

He didn't dodge it, he blitzed it. he moved after it was fired, but before it really even left the barrel. That's a timeframe of like 0.02 seconds using the actual weapon as a point of reference.
He doesn't begin moving till after that fact.

Eh that might be decent then, especially if we get a long shot we could use.

Knowing someone will do something doesn't effect or change your speed, he still went from Point A to point B within a certain amount of time. This ain't DBZ where IA is also secretly a 1000x speed amp.

I mean considering he's claiming 50 steps ahead it certainly helps, especially when we saw Bane use this to calculate his style and counter his moves with pressure points and how Venom makes your brain function like a supercomputer basically.

Oh ok, as above.

Post those? If they're easy to calc I might take a shot at them when I have time if we're sure Bats will end up scaling.

The main thing will be the laser feat but I don't think it fits criteria so it's pointless (I'll re-read and post what I find)

They travel in straight lines and seem to carry heat but I don't think that's remotely enough to qualify.

 

[Chariot190]

Its not mine If that makes you feel better
And if you have any corrections feel free to post them into the comments of the blog to keep it on topic

Dog, literally every single part of it is wrong, it's not even "this thing is iffy, tweak that and it's fine", it's just the entire thing as a whole needs to be changed at every point.

eh

Eh that might be decent then, especially if we get a long shot we could use.

It's like subsonic+.

I mean considering he's claiming 50 steps ahead it certainly helps, especially when we saw Bane use this to calculate his style and counter his moves with pressure points and how Venom makes your brain function like a supercomputer basically.

It doesn't. You're conflating knowing something will happen, as if it makes you any faster. It doesn't. You could have precog that tells you everything ever and all future possibilities, that doesn't mean you could dodge a bullet after it was fired though from a few meters away despite having that ability if you're say, just peak human. All this helps with, is aim dodging or acting before it happens. The instant you start moving after or parallel with, that's just a speed thing.

The main thing will be the laser feat but I don't think it fits criteria so it's pointless (I'll re-read and post what I find)

They travel in straight lines and seem to carry heat but I don't think that's remotely enough to qualify.

Do they reflect or refract.

 

[Hellbeast]

Dog, literally every single part of it is wrong, it's not even "this thing is iffy, tweak that and it's fine", it's just the entire thing as a whole needs to be changed at every point.

Then say that in the comments of the blog, you egg

It's like subsonic+.

Yeah that's trash

It doesn't. You're conflating knowing something will happen, as if it makes you any faster. It doesn't. You could have precog that tells you everything ever and all future possibilities, that doesn't mean you could dodge a bullet after it was fired though from a few meters away despite having that ability if you're say, just peak human. All this helps with, is aim dodging or acting before it happens. The instant you start moving after or parallel with, that's just a speed thing.

All these words for a supersonic feat
crazy

Do they reflect or refract.

As I've said previously I have to re-read the comic to check, I don't recall anything tho

 

[Chariot190]

Then say that in the comments of the blog, you egg

Is there even a point, at that point it'd be best just to do it myself or get someone who fw Batman to, the whole thing needs to be redone.

The 150m is made up, don't even know why when it can be scaled off the arena just fine or windows.
The fall is even worse, it uses 145m, as if the building was broke off 5m above the ground and not like 30m above ground at worst, which is insane, you can tell at a glance.

Timeframe completely made up, which you don't even have to make up because gravity exists and it's in freefall, using their 145m, which again is completely made up and extremely wrong even with the 150m assumption, would be 5.4 seconds, not 4 seconds.

Which then also means the speed is wrong because time is wrong.

They treat it as pure steel which is actually asinine, the building obviously has steel in it, but it's more concrete, this hyper inflates tf out of it.

87% is just kind of made up too, there's far better densities to use.

And then they forget to factor in ISL and shit.

And that's just the basic stuff, the pixel scaling too is sus af but these just prevent it from being usable at all. Only real thing of note here is that doing KE might have merit? That's a decent idea ig.

Yeah that's trash

Uh, it's his best feat? Also I lied it's barely supersonic.

All these words for a supersonic feat
crazy

Uh, it's his best feat if you ignore the annual, and even then.

As I've said previously I have to re-read the comic to check, I don't recall anything tho

Well then it's not exactly quantifiable, that just leaves the mach jets. Post those.

 

[Hellbeast]

Is there even a point, at that point it'd be best just to do it myself or get someone who fw Batman to, the whole thing needs to be redone

Then redo it yourself and I’ll post the corrected calc in the blog? It’s not that hard a concept to grasp.

It’s pretty commonly how it’s done in my experience being here and I’ve been here since 2017

The 150m is made up, don't even know why when it can be scaled off the arena just fine or windows.

That is a good solution

The fall is even worse, it uses 145m, as if the building was broke off 5m above the ground and not like 30m above ground at worst, which is insane, you can tell at a glance.

Yep

Timeframe completely made up, which you don't even have to make up because gravity exists and it's in freefall, using their 145m, which again is completely made up and extremely wrong even with the 150m assumption, would be 5.4 seconds, not 4 seconds.

Yeah I noticed this myself while looking at the numbers, 5.4 would be a great alternative

They treat it as pure steel which is actually asinine, the building obviously has steel in it, but it's more concrete, this hyper inflates tf out of it.

87% is just kind of made up too, there's far better densities to use.

Isn’t a good density 80% hollowness for skyscrapers?

And that's just the basic stuff, the pixel scaling too is sus af but these just prevent it from being usable at all. Only real thing of note here is that doing KE might have merit? That's a decent idea ig.

Yeah KE and perhaps frag would be good ideas, especially since we see the walls of the stadium get ****** up

Uh, it's his best feat? Also I lied it's barely supersonic.

Still eh but I guess for now it’s fine

Well then it's not exactly quantifiable, that just leaves the mach jets. Post those.

And again, I have to re-read the comic to get the scans and check how it lines up. I’m not doing it this very second because you asked me to

I’ll send it through when I have time and we can go from there

 

[Emerald]

Following and Diana has other good feats in the two latest issues, she flies to Nevada, Uruguay, Mexico, Hawaii, Dominican Republic and finally Greece all in a single night

 

[Ozcantabak]

Doesn't Diana also have a laser dodging feat ?

 

[Hellbeast]

Following and Diana has other good feats in the two latest issues, she flies to Nevada, Uruguay, Mexico, Hawaii, Dominican Republic and finally Greece all in a single night

that’s actually a great catch, that could get us hypersonic

Doesn't Diana also have a laser dodging feat ?

we discussed it earlier, we’d need to prove it fits the criteria for laser feats

I recall it travels straight and Carrie’s heat but can’t remember anything else

 

[Armorchompy]

Green Lantern does have tons of feats. The Lanterns can literally create a big explosion on the moon and cross solar systems. Abin Sur could also lift this for several days without problem

Why are you scaling them to their vehicles? I don't think they're just physically pushing those around. As for the second one that is a legit speed feat but I think Mogo was in the same solar system so it could shoot that one planet.

 

[Emerald]

My main question about the latest Batman issue is how you can calc how high the Batmobile was shot upwards by Bane's attack here? Considering the car is 600 tons and Alfred didnt even realize what happened would give a very decent yield

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Why are you scaling them to their vehicles?

? Because they control it with their power? The moment that Abin sur lost power the thing fell and destroyed the town, it's clear that they power it up

but I think Mogo was in the same solar system so it could shoot that one planet.

True, my mistake, I didn't realized that their Death Star is where Sinestro was living. I thought it was a separated planet.

I feel like it would be MHS+ either way

 

[Emerald]

Why are you scaling them to their vehicles? I don't think they're just physically pushing those around. As for the second one that is a legit speed feat but I think Mogo was in the same solar system so it could shoot that one planet.

Mogo wasnt that far away, they were fighting between Mogo and the green planet

 

[Chariot190]

Then redo it yourself and I’ll post the corrected calc in the blog? It’s not that hard a concept to grasp. It’s pretty commonly how it’s done in my experience being here and I’ve been here since 2017. That is a good solution.

What, why is this my problem all of a sudden? If I were to fix it, I'd post it myself.
If you want it now, you do it yourself.

I can point out why the calc is bad without being forced to redo it, and if I were to redo it, I'd do it myself. I don't have time to pixel scale that shit atm, if you want it now, you do it, if you don't wanna do it, you can wait till I have more time some time later this month.

Yep

Then fix it?

Yeah I noticed this myself while looking at the numbers, 5.4 would be a great alternative

Nuh uh lad, that was an example in how even the assumptions are wrong and conflict, 145m is still wrong to begin with. 5.4 is if it actually fell 145m, it didn't even do that, it needs to be actually calced, not guessed.

Isn’t a good density 80% hollowness for skyscrapers?

It's more like 90%. Effectively anyway.
But as it stands, using entirely steel is asinine, that alone, even if we assume everything else is right (it isn't), inflates it by over 3x.
Using a more accurate density as opposed to acting like it's pure metal (steel, but also concrete, plastics, glass, etc ratios), drops it to about 9 tons~, but that still has the issue of made up sizes and tbh even some ISL.
(Should also mentions the bombs end need to be divided by 4 given there was at least 4 blasts, which drops it down to High 8-C, but again, not full steel, mostly reinforced concrete, which drops it down to like 4 tons per bomb using those sizes).

Yeah KE and perhaps frag would be good ideas, especially since we see the walls of the stadium get ****** up

The stadium destruction is probably High 8-C in and of itself yeah. Frag doesn't matter much tho because ISL.

Still eh but I guess for now it’s fine

Not really eh, it's kind of his best thing.

And again, I have to re-read the comic to get the scans and check how it lines up. I’m not doing it this very second because you asked me to

Man tf is up with you? I was asking nicely so I could calc it when I have some time, nobody said do it right this second.

My main question about the latest Batman issue is how you can calc how high the Batmobile was shot upwards by Bane's attack here? Considering the car is 600 tons and Alfred didnt even realize what happened would give a very decent yield

400 tons, but given it's an american comic, it's probably gross non metric tons...
It's prob 9-A tho, or well no, it's 100% 9-A, it just likely isn't any higher.
The KE is decent tho, like Batmobile itself has borderline 8-C KE and Bane eats that.

 

[Armorchompy]

? Because they control it with their power? The moment that Abin sur lost power the thing fell and destroyed the town, it's clear that they power it up

They definitely control it, I don't think it means they're physically lugging it around with TK all the time, that's just comically inefficient. A fancy sci-fi vehicle except it's literally just a rock they're dragging around. If we learn that's how that works later on or there's comparable feats sure but rn I can't really agree with that interpretation

True, my mistake, I didn't realized that their Death Star is where Sinestro was living. I thought it was a separated planet.

I feel like it would be MHS+ either way

Yeah it's still a good feat

 

[Chariot190]

Chat, were was the collapsible war club.

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

They definitely control it, I don't think it means they're physically lugging it around with TK all the time, that's just comically inefficient. A fancy sci-fi vehicle except it's literally just a rock they're dragging around.

We would need proof that it gets power beyond the Lantern's, which so far there's none. Otherwise it's just "vibes"

 

[Armorchompy]

We would need proof that it gets power beyond the Lantern's, which so far there's none. Otherwise it's just "vibes"

You got it wrong, you need proof that it doesn't. Default assumption is a vehicle has an engine, lol - not to mention when we don't know something we go for the conservative estimate

 

[Hellbeast]

My main question about the latest Batman issue is how you can calc how high the Batmobile was shot upwards by Bane's attack here? Considering the car is 600 tons and Alfred didnt even realize what happened would give a very decent yield

I did some rudimentary math and got 1500 tons of force via assuming he sent it 30 meters or so.

Chat, were was the collapsible war club.

The butt

What, why is this my problem all of a sudden? If I were to fix it, I'd post it myself.
If you want it now, you do it yourself.

It’s not “your problem”, it’s me posing a solution to our predicament, don’t take a personal attack where none exists.

I can point out why the calc is bad without being forced to redo it, and if I were to redo it, I'd do it myself. I don't have time to pixel scale that shit atm, if you want it now, you do it, if you don't wanna do it, you can wait till I have more time some time later this month.

I never gave you a time window so don’t throw that my way, do the math when convenient. All I’m asking is we post it in the comments so I can add it to the blog

Then fix it?

Sure, post the altered math when you get time and I’ll fix it up

Muh uh lad, that was an example in how even the assumptions are wrong and conflict, 145m is still wrong to begin with. 5.4 is if it actually fell 145m, it didn't even do that, it needs to be actually calced, not guessed.

I’ve noticed you keep calling me lad with these and I should tell you it’s unbearable.

It's more like 90%. Effectively anyway.

Ah that makes sense

But as it stands, using entirely steel is asinine, that alone, even if we assume everything else is right (it isn't), inflates it by over 3x.

Agreed, concrete should have a larger role.

Using a more accurate density as opposed to acting like it's pure metal (steel, but also concrete, plastics, glass, etc ratios), drops it to about 9 tons~, but that still has the issue of made up sizes and tbh even some ISL.

9 tons of TNT right?
It’s worth noting KLOL believes the sky scraper might be larger than described in the calc, what’s your read on that?

(Should also mentions the bombs end need to be divided by 4 given there was at least 4 blasts, which drops it down to High 8-C, but again, not full steel, mostly reinforced concrete, which drops it down to like 4 tons per bomb using those sizes).

That’s true (and adds up with the frag from the stadium)

The stadium destruction is probably High 8-C in and of itself yeah. Frag doesn't matter much tho because ISL.

That’s my guess too, maybe High 8-C+? I could see that lining up with KE from the skyscraper

Not really eh, it's kind of his best thing.

Eh supersonic still stinky

Man tf is up with you? I was asking nicely so I could calc it when I have some time, nobody said do it right this second.

Come on man, you’ve been calling me “lad” and making vaguely condescending remarks this whole time, why are you surprised?

400 tons, but given it's an american comic, it's probably gross non metric tons...

600 I believe actually as per #3

It's prob 9-A tho, or well no, it's 100% 9-A, it just likely isn't any higher.
The KE is decent tho, like Batmobile itself has borderline 8-C KE and Bane eats that.

Yep, I got 400 Megajoules
I do think it’s worth noting Bane no sells the KE, he’s only done in by the piercing from the spike itself. Which makes Batman’s axe and ears even more cracked since they cut his skin easily and slice his bones.

 

[Chariot190]

I did some rudimentary math and got 1500 tons of force via assuming he sent it 30 meters or so.

He punched it, it's not LS.
Though, there's some throwing feats and slamming feats Batman has that might get that high.

It’s not “your problem”, it’s me posing a solution to our predicament, don’t take a personal attack where none exists.

It isn't even a predicament? The calc is just wrong. I didn't take it as a personal attack, just kind of surprised you're telling me to redo it for you because I pointed out obvious flaws.

I never gave you a time window so don’t throw that my way, do the math when convenient. All I’m asking is we post it in the comments so I can add it to the blog

Bro, you're basically asking people to do the calc from scratch for you, if it's such a big deal atm why don't you do it, you should have a general idea of what needs to be done atm
tbh i would I just don't like pixel scaling, i always get super fussy with the lines and it always ends with me doing extensive trigonometrics to account for slight angles and depth.

Sure, post the altered math when you get time and I’ll fix it up

I don't get it, if I go through the effort of doing the whole calc, why wouldn't I just post it myself, why the extra hoop

I’ve noticed you keep calling me lad with these and I should tell you it’s unbearable.

Yeah it's called being friendly, **** me ig, I suppose I won't then.
Or well actually, it's called a vocative term of address, if you want to be specific.

Ah that makes sense

Agreed, concrete should have a larger role.

then edit it.

9 tons of TNT right?
It’s worth noting KLOL believes the sky scraper might be larger than described in the calc, what’s your read on that?

I really don't care as long as it's done properly. Shit could be 50m or 500m, as long as it's right, if it ends up higher that's nice, if it isn't then it isn't.

That’s true (and adds up with the frag from the stadium)

That’s my guess too, maybe High 8-C+? I could see that lining up with KE from the skyscraper

Actually that's a bad thing, we'd have to subtract that energy from the drop as it's expended energy.

Eh supersonic still stinky

Take what you can get, supersonic is better than most things, hell look at JJK, besides the goal is to index it as it is, whether that's 10mps or 10000000mps, it don't matter to much.

Come on man, you’ve been calling me “lad” and making vaguely condescending remarks this whole time, why are you surprised?

Wait hol up, "why are you surprised", that makes it sound like you're deliberately acting like that as some sort of "an eye for an eye" deal.
I don't wanna be this dude, but you know that's against rules right? And yeah I said lad, last I checked that's just a term used to address a younger male. Unless you're 1. Not a dude. 2. Older than me.
It's basically like saying "bro" or "man", goddamn we really in the big 25 treating LAD as some sort of insult holy shit, like I knew this place took everything way to seriously but goddamn.

Also vaguely condescending?
We ain't even "condescending" anymore, it's "vague" now huh, next I'm gonna look at you vaguely funny
I'm allowed to argue with you on the debate forum, unless you can specifically point to a direct instance I was somehow condescending, and not just you reading far to deep into basic linguistics, you need to take it back a step there dude, shit ain't that serious.

I ain't doing this with you because you took lad of all things and basic disagreement on a debate forum as means to act a way you essentially just conceded was a lil much, but for argument's sake, two wrongs don't make a right. Even if I was, which I wasn't, somehow doing what you thought I was, don't do the same thing you perceive as bad, that's all I'm saying on the matter, I would like to think you'd do the same.

600 I believe actually as per #3

You're correct. So that's about 544 metric tons.
That's about 0.28 tons of tnt KE so yeah easy 8-C feat right of the bat for giga Bane and Bat weapons.

Yep, I got 400 Megajoules
I do think it’s worth noting Bane no sells the KE, he’s only done in by the piercing from the spike itself. Which makes Batman’s axe and ears even more cracked since they cut his skin easily and slice his bones.

I have no issue with him upscaling the KE, it's a pretty blatant feat and he isn't moved much by it either so there's no car crash mechanics involved, he'd have taken the full KE more or less.

 

[Dalesean027]

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Lad isn't a bad word, its not even being used in a demeaning way either so this seems more like your own perceptions of the tone here being aggressive instead of simply informative conversation

 

[Hellbeast]

Lad isn't a bad word, its not even being used in a demeaning way either so this seems more like your own perceptions of the tone here being aggressive instead of simply informative conversation

What can I say, don’t call people lad if you don’t know them, especially if it definitely doesn’t feel informative

He punched it, it's not LS.

No he didn’t, you can see he grabbed the wire attached to the Mobile and tossed it, likely when the Batmobile passed him

Though, there's some throwing feats and slamming feats Batman has that might get that high.

Oo any good ones

It isn't even a predicament? The calc is just wrong. I didn't take it as a personal attack, just kind of surprised you're telling me to redo it for you because I pointed out obvious flaws.

I mean if you can post any corrections you think need doing that’d be helpful for the blog, obviously that’s not outright required, just think it’d be helpful since isn’t that what the comments on a blog are for

Bro, you're basically asking people to do the calc from scratch for you, if it's such a big deal atm why don't you do it,

Im not a calc guy and even this calc isn’t mine, I have never been a calc guy

tbh i would I just don't like pixel scaling, i always get super fussy with the lines and it always ends with me doing extensive trigonometrics to account for slight angles and depth.

Valid tbh

I don't get it, if I go through the effort of doing the whole calc, why wouldn't I just post it myself, why the extra hoop

Eh the result is the same to me at this point, if you feel that strongly about it then make your blog if you really want to.

Yeah it's called being friendly, **** me ig, I suppose I won't then.
Or well actually, it's called a vocative term of address, if you want to be specific.

I mean it’s clearly not taken as a friendly term of address here, I appreciate you’ll stop but “**** me ig” is not exactly the most self aware response.

A simple “my bad” would be appreciated and if I’ve made you feel uncomfortable I’m happy to extend the same courtesy so we can move on

then edit it.

Not a math guy

I really don't care as long as it's done properly. Shit could be 50m or 500m, as long as it's right, if it ends up higher that's nice, if it isn't then it isn't.

Ok but would you yourself say KLOL’s speculation could be well-founded

Actually that's a bad thing, we'd have to subtract that energy from the drop as it's expended energy.

Drat

Take what you can get, supersonic is better than most things, hell look at JJK, besides the goal is to index it as it is, whether that's 10mps or 10000000mps, it don't matter to much.

Yeah that’s fair enough to be honest, just wish we got something more

Wait hol up, "why are you surprised", that makes it sound like you're deliberately acting like that as some sort of "an eye for an eye" deal.

Once again, if you feel that way I apol off use but that’s no more my intent then what I’m presuming you calling me lad does

I don't wanna be this dude, but you know that's against rules right?

Take it to rule violations if you think it’s against the rules man, otherwise we can move on

And yeah I said lad, last I checked that's just a term used to address a younger male. Unless you're 1. Not a dude. 2. Older than me.
It's basically like saying "bro" or "man", goddamn we really in the big 25 treating LAD as some sort of insult holy shit, like I knew this place took everything way to seriously but goddamn.

Not every country is the same, where I’m from using terms of endearment with people you’re not familiar with isn’t taken as sincere.

If that’s not your intent, I apologise but you can understand tone indicators don’t read over text

Also vaguely condescending?
We ain't even "condescending" anymore, it's "vague" now huh, next I'm gonna look at you vaguely funny

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I'm allowed to argue with you on the debate forum, unless you can specifically point to a direct instance I was somehow condescending, and not just you reading far to deep into basic linguistics, you need to take it back a step there dude, shit ain't that serious.

Except it’s not the arguing in the debate forum that raised alarms, as I’ve mentioned previously it’s use of certain terms which have read to me as insincere

I don’t see why it’s an issue of me not taking debate when I’ve been in this community longer then you’ve been for instance and consistently debated offsite as well in that time.

I ain't doing this with you because you took lad of all things and basic disagreement on a debate forum as means to act a way you essentially just conceded was a lil much, but for argument's sake, two wrongs don't make a right. Even if I was, which I wasn't, somehow doing what you thought I was, don't do the same thing you perceive as bad, that's all I'm saying on the matter, I would like to think you'd do the same.

Really not lad, just having a conversation

You're correct. So that's about 544 metric tons.
That's about 0.28 tons of tnt KE so yeah easy 8-C feat right of the bat for giga Bane and Bat weapons.

Basically yeah, plus with how Batman’s craters are clearly 8-C that’s solid

I have no issue with him upscaling the KE, it's a pretty blatant feat and he isn't moved much by it either so there's no car crash mechanics involved, he'd have taken the full KE more or less.

Yeah basically, it’s worth noting that it adds up with the earlier skyscraper feat.

 

[Dalesean027]

What can I say, don’t call people lad if you don’t know them

Not every country is the same, where I’m from using terms of endearment with people you’re not familiar with isn’t taken as sincere.

If that’s not your intent, I apologise but you can understand tone indicators don’t read over text

Imma be real this is such a non issue , if your country is different sets of rules that ya know someone who doesn't live there wouldn't be privy too than simply don't judge by or assume someone who is not from there would be intentionally going against those conventions for any random reason if they even knew about to them to begin with which us another level of assumptions.

I'm very casual even if I don't know someone personally I'll still call them bro, man, fam, dawg, etc. Its just place by place nothing to really to get upset over especially when all that was said is "lad" of all things, literally something super inoffensive

That's all I gotta say about that tho, its not like it needs anything more said

 

[Hellbeast]

Imma be real this is such a non issue , if your country is different sets of rules that ya know someone who doesn't live there wouldn't be privy too than simply don't judge by or assume someone who is not from there would be intentionally going against those conventions for any random reason if they even knew about to them to begin with which us another level of assumptions.

Which is why I mentioned I took issue with the term, to communicate that very best. But instead of an apology for the confusion I instead got told “**** me I guess” which you have to see isn’t exactly a great response, nor does it ease my suspicion the term is not being used as one of endearment.

Again, might be a non issue to you, which is great but if I’ve made it clear I don’t take kindly to something being said only to then be told I’m Somehow at fault for making that boundary clear, that’s a bit ridiculous, don’t you agree?

 

[Dalesean027]

But instead of an apology for the confusion I instead got told “**** me I guess” which you have to see isn’t exactly a great response, nor does it ease my suspicion the term is not being used as one of endearment

Yeah it's called being friendly, **** me ig, I suppose I won't then.

This was what was said in full but regardless its literally just the word "lad".

Again, might be a non issue to you, which is great but if I’ve made it clear I don’t take kindly to something being said only to then be told I’m Somehow at fault for making that boundary clear, that’s a bit ridiculous, don’t you agree?

There is no "fault"? You're acting like you're in trouble or that the two of you had a heated back and forth, both of you are fine but regardless no one faulted you for setting a boundary and again as I said above ya just shouldn't assume someone knew about it beforehand to get upset at it in the first place as ya did.

Probably best to just write out on your profile or something that its not best to use friendly words or names with ya

 

[EL_xWatcher1234x]

What's the Omega particle ?

 

[Emerald]

What's the Omega particle ?

Basically the fundamental building block of the Absolute Universe, think of like the God Particle but its Darkseid instead, it possess a Moral Dimension making so the whole universe follows a certain set of morals and forcing everything, ranging from the laws of physics to societal forces into a single direction and anything that tries to go against it is going against this order. It enforces the status quo and goes against anyone trying to change society

 

[Antvasima]

After a page for this verse has been created in our wiki, somebody will need to add a properly formatted link to this thread to the bottom of said page.

 

[EL_xWatcher1234x]

Basically the fundamental building block of the Absolute Universe, think of like the God Particle but its Darkseid instead, it possess a Moral Dimension making so the whole universe follows a certain set of morals and forcing everything, ranging from the laws of physics to societal forces into a single direction and anything that tries to go against it is going against this order. It enforces the status quo and goes against anyone trying to change society

I remember a statment about it also being "truth". Isn't it an anti-feat for Info type 2 to be a particle ?

 

[Hellbeast]

Alright so I’ve found some alternative calcs for Bane’s skyscraper tanking but it includes the Batmobile feat too

If possible, I’d appreciate takes from y’all before I post it for approval.

I’d note it’s in Spanish tho so I’ll get a translation as soon as possible but until then, the info is there if you want to do your own reading

 

[Hellbeast]

Here’s another calc I found, this one Batman scales to via tanking these hits

 

[Armorchompy]

I can't understand it but that feat is kind of unclear since we don't know how many times Bane hit him, it's clearly more than once but - hey I know the guy who made that blog lol - anyways I'm not sure if he's dividing it by an amount of strikes. IMO easiest (and possibly more fruitful) way to calc that feat would be to calc the final crater Batman ends up in and subtract from it the volume of the one from before the final strike.

 

[Hellbeast]

I can't understand it but that feat is kind of unclear since we don't know how many times Bane hit him, it's clearly more than once but - hey I know the guy who made that blog lol - anyways I'm not sure if he's dividing it by an amount of strikes. IMO easiest (and possibly more fruitful) way to calc that feat would be to calc the final crater Batman ends up in and subtract from it the volume of the one from before the final strike.

That seems a good solution

In regards to the other two, what’s your take on the math shown? Do you have any notes you think should be addressed or would it be fine if I post them as an amended blog?

 

[Hellbeast]

Here’s a translation of the calculations I posted above for reference

Looks like Small Building across the board for Batman and Bane