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Blue Archive High 1-B Downgrade

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pedjatarzan is a living cancer, he destroys the discussion in every thread he goes
 
Unqver said:
Alright, I’m just going to say it: the High 1-B scaling for Blue Archive was always built on sand. And the downgrade thread finally laid out the reasons in a way that’s impossible to ignore.

First off, Blue Archive’s so-called “dimensions” are not higher dimensions. They’re parallel worlds. Probability branches. Alternate timelines. That’s it. Calling them “higher planes of existence” is just wishful thinking. The story never treats them as anything beyond side-by-side universes, and pretending otherwise is outright headcanon.

Second — the Ark’s superposition? People keep trying to turn that into infinite-dimensional hax, but the story literally represents it as a 3D structure. The barrier collapses and we don’t get some infinite-plane-shattering event; we get a local explosion. If this thing really contained infinite dimensions, it wouldn’t pop like a sci-fi balloon. The downgrade thread spelled this out perfectly: the Ark accesses infinite possibilities, it doesn’t embody them.

And don’t get me started on the False Sanctum “infinite energy” argument. If your power source can be measured in percentages and destroyed in two weeks, it is NOT infinite-dimensional hyper-cosmic anything. It is a battery. A big battery, sure — but still a battery. Calling it High 1-B is straight-up delusional.

Aris? Love her. Great character. But breaking part of a superposition layer is not the same thing as blowing up infinite dimensions. It’s dimensional disruption, not multiverse-crushing power. People pushing High 1-B for her are relying on vibes, not feats.

And the kicker? The downgrade actually follows the Wiki’s own rules. The criteria for High 1-B are strict: real higher dimensions, infinite qualitative superiority, characters who can directly interact with or destroy those layers. Blue Archive doesn’t check any of those boxes. Not one.

So yeah — the downgrade is correct. It’s consistent, it respects the lore, and it stops people from stretching quantum mechanics into “lol infinite dimensions” territory.

If anything, the High 1-B rating shouldn’t have lasted as long as it did.

If you want, I can make an even saltier version, or one written like a direct rebuttal to someone who still insists on High 1-B.
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PedjaTarzan said:
Ah, I see you’re ready to drop some truth bombs in the power scaling debate on VSBW about Blue Archive! Alright, let’s get into it. Here's why Blue Archive could be considered the best gacha game, especially in the context of power scaling:


1.​

Blue Archive features a wide range of characters with unique abilities, backgrounds, and lore. Each character’s power is defined not just by raw strength but by their intelligence, magical abilities, and various skills. The game’s diverse range of characters means there’s a spectrum of power scaling that includes:

  • Magic Users: Characters like Haruna, whose abilities revolve around enhancing and manipulating magic in powerful ways.
  • Technology Users: Characters like Aris who use advanced tech to augment their physical and mental abilities.
  • Super Soldiers: Characters like Iori who are literally designed to be peak human or superhuman with enhanced strength, speed, and resilience.
  • Strategists and Leaders: Characters like Mizuki and Hoshino who play crucial roles in guiding their allies, often in ways that highlight intellect and leadership in battles.
This diversity makes power scaling in Blue Archive more interesting than in many other gacha games because it involves multiple layers: physical strength, intelligence, technology, magic, and more.

2.​

One of the most underrated aspects of Blue Archive is its expanding lore involving different schools, factions, and alternate dimensions. This expands the power scaling because many of the characters interact across various realities and face opponents of different scales. For example:

  • Cosmic Beasts and Reality Warpers: Some characters, like Hoshino, interact with creatures and beings that exist beyond the normal realm, giving them access to god-like abilities that affect timelines and universes.
  • Advanced AI and Reality Manipulation: Characters like Azusa, whose skillset involves manipulation of dimensions, time, and space, add a whole layer of complexity to the game’s power scale.
The inclusion of alternate worlds and divine or god-tier powers opens up a lot of debate on whether the characters are tiered within normal human limits or transcend into higher realms of power.

3.​

Unlike some other gacha games where power scaling is often based on who can hit the hardest or have the highest stats, Blue Archive often ties characters’ strength to narrative and strategy. Many characters’ abilities aren’t just about sheer firepower but also tactical advantages, buffs, and debuffs that can drastically affect the tide of battle. This makes the argument for scaling more nuanced and thoughtful:

  • Tactical Abilities: Some characters may not hit the hardest but can take control of the flow of battle, such as applying status effects that manipulate enemies or assist allies.
  • Buff/Debuff Synergies: Characters can scale not just by their individual strength but by how they synergize with others—leading to complex power dynamics that can rival or exceed simple raw strength scaling.

4.​

If we’re talking about sheer combat feats, Blue Archive doesn’t shy away from showing off massive destruction. The use of high-tech weaponry, magic, and large-scale attacks means that some of the game's characters have demonstrated the power to level entire districts or alter the environment around them on a massive scale. This brings into play discussions of:

  • AoE (Area of Effect) Damage: Multiple characters can execute moves that affect large areas, leading to impressive feats of destruction that could rival many other universes.
  • Planetary Scale Destruction: While Blue Archive isn’t exactly about world-shattering power like some other anime or gacha universes, it does feature characters with god-like powers that hint at potential planet-destroying abilities, especially with the introduction of “Divine Beasts” and reality-warping entities.

5.​

The story and events often push the characters to confront increasingly larger threats, hinting at potential levels of strength that go beyond mere combat. Many of the characters show growth, and some even reach narrative-level “meta” power scaling that involves things like:

  • Reality Reshaping: Some of the game’s most powerful characters, like certain versions of The Student Council, seem to exist beyond the usual limitations of the world and can affect reality at a fundamental level.
  • Diverging Timelines and Futures: Blue Archive introduces characters who may not be from the same timeline or dimension, making the discussion of who is stronger based on their context rather than just a raw feat-to-feat comparison. This means the power scale can become multidimensional.

6.​

In the context of power scaling debates, you can argue that Blue Archive doesn’t just rely on the typical tiering systems of "A tier, B tier, C tier" or just "strongest unit wins." Instead, it encourages a more layered and complex view of power where:

  • Raw power is only one aspect, and a character’s strategic, magical, or technological abilities are just as important.
  • The environment and narrative context can boost or diminish the effectiveness of a character's abilities, making it less predictable but more dynamic.
When compared to other popular gacha games, Blue Archive feels more like an evolving, multifaceted universe where each character brings something unique to the table. Even those without immediate high-level abilities can become key players in the larger conflict, which makes the whole power scaling much more fluid and expansive.


Final Words: The Best Power Scaling for a Reason​

Ultimately, Blue Archive is one of the best gacha games not just for its combat mechanics but because its world-building, character development, and lore create an intricate and fascinating power scale. From high-tech assassins and magical prodigies to god-like creatures and reality-bending entities, Blue Archive doesn’t just hand out raw power but creates a universe where tactics, abilities, and lore all intertwine. That depth of scaling is what can truly elevate the game in any power scaling debate.


Drop these points in the VSBW debate, and you’ll surely have some strong ammo for why Blue Archive holds a unique place in gacha power scaling discussions.
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How Bro feel after writing this Coalshit

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shart at your post

Anyway, mods need to reevaluate this thread. Just let this torture end.
 
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Randomlamdom said:
Coming out of hibernation just to say the word they’re using for for dimension does mean math dimensions 차원 / 다차원
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There are too many contradictions that make them unqualified for High 1-B. Especially the previous thread creator really manipulated the context as if the Ark's barrier housing the infinite dimensions. Yes, it does point to "dimensions," but it's not enough to move up a tier. And the use of the word "dimensions" can also refer to parallel worlds as the context in the narrative (there are 3 times it is implied as such).
 
PedjaTarzan said:
Ah, I see you’re ready to drop some truth bombs in the power scaling debate on VSBW about Blue Archive! Alright, let’s get into it. Here's why Blue Archive could be considered the best gacha game, especially in the context of power scaling:


1.​

Blue Archive features a wide range of characters with unique abilities, backgrounds, and lore. Each character’s power is defined not just by raw strength but by their intelligence, magical abilities, and various skills. The game’s diverse range of characters means there’s a spectrum of power scaling that includes:

  • Magic Users: Characters like Haruna, whose abilities revolve around enhancing and manipulating magic in powerful ways.
  • Technology Users: Characters like Aris who use advanced tech to augment their physical and mental abilities.
  • Super Soldiers: Characters like Iori who are literally designed to be peak human or superhuman with enhanced strength, speed, and resilience.
  • Strategists and Leaders: Characters like Mizuki and Hoshino who play crucial roles in guiding their allies, often in ways that highlight intellect and leadership in battles.
This diversity makes power scaling in Blue Archive more interesting than in many other gacha games because it involves multiple layers: physical strength, intelligence, technology, magic, and more.

2.​

One of the most underrated aspects of Blue Archive is its expanding lore involving different schools, factions, and alternate dimensions. This expands the power scaling because many of the characters interact across various realities and face opponents of different scales. For example:

  • Cosmic Beasts and Reality Warpers: Some characters, like Hoshino, interact with creatures and beings that exist beyond the normal realm, giving them access to god-like abilities that affect timelines and universes.
  • Advanced AI and Reality Manipulation: Characters like Azusa, whose skillset involves manipulation of dimensions, time, and space, add a whole layer of complexity to the game’s power scale.
The inclusion of alternate worlds and divine or god-tier powers opens up a lot of debate on whether the characters are tiered within normal human limits or transcend into higher realms of power.

3.​

Unlike some other gacha games where power scaling is often based on who can hit the hardest or have the highest stats, Blue Archive often ties characters’ strength to narrative and strategy. Many characters’ abilities aren’t just about sheer firepower but also tactical advantages, buffs, and debuffs that can drastically affect the tide of battle. This makes the argument for scaling more nuanced and thoughtful:

  • Tactical Abilities: Some characters may not hit the hardest but can take control of the flow of battle, such as applying status effects that manipulate enemies or assist allies.
  • Buff/Debuff Synergies: Characters can scale not just by their individual strength but by how they synergize with others—leading to complex power dynamics that can rival or exceed simple raw strength scaling.

4.​

If we’re talking about sheer combat feats, Blue Archive doesn’t shy away from showing off massive destruction. The use of high-tech weaponry, magic, and large-scale attacks means that some of the game's characters have demonstrated the power to level entire districts or alter the environment around them on a massive scale. This brings into play discussions of:

  • AoE (Area of Effect) Damage: Multiple characters can execute moves that affect large areas, leading to impressive feats of destruction that could rival many other universes.
  • Planetary Scale Destruction: While Blue Archive isn’t exactly about world-shattering power like some other anime or gacha universes, it does feature characters with god-like powers that hint at potential planet-destroying abilities, especially with the introduction of “Divine Beasts” and reality-warping entities.

5.​

The story and events often push the characters to confront increasingly larger threats, hinting at potential levels of strength that go beyond mere combat. Many of the characters show growth, and some even reach narrative-level “meta” power scaling that involves things like:

  • Reality Reshaping: Some of the game’s most powerful characters, like certain versions of The Student Council, seem to exist beyond the usual limitations of the world and can affect reality at a fundamental level.
  • Diverging Timelines and Futures: Blue Archive introduces characters who may not be from the same timeline or dimension, making the discussion of who is stronger based on their context rather than just a raw feat-to-feat comparison. This means the power scale can become multidimensional.

6.​

In the context of power scaling debates, you can argue that Blue Archive doesn’t just rely on the typical tiering systems of "A tier, B tier, C tier" or just "strongest unit wins." Instead, it encourages a more layered and complex view of power where:

  • Raw power is only one aspect, and a character’s strategic, magical, or technological abilities are just as important.
  • The environment and narrative context can boost or diminish the effectiveness of a character's abilities, making it less predictable but more dynamic.
When compared to other popular gacha games, Blue Archive feels more like an evolving, multifaceted universe where each character brings something unique to the table. Even those without immediate high-level abilities can become key players in the larger conflict, which makes the whole power scaling much more fluid and expansive.


Final Words: The Best Power Scaling for a Reason​

Ultimately, Blue Archive is one of the best gacha games not just for its combat mechanics but because its world-building, character development, and lore create an intricate and fascinating power scale. From high-tech assassins and magical prodigies to god-like creatures and reality-bending entities, Blue Archive doesn’t just hand out raw power but creates a universe where tactics, abilities, and lore all intertwine. That depth of scaling is what can truly elevate the game in any power scaling debate.


Drop these points in the VSBW debate, and you’ll surely have some strong ammo for why Blue Archive holds a unique place in gacha power scaling discussions.
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"Best Gacha Games" In Mumbai maybe✌🏻
 
EinelRendezvous said:
Yes, it does point to "dimensions," but it's not enough to move up a tier. And the use of the word "dimensions" can also refer to parallel worlds as the context in the narrative (there are 3 times it is implied as such).
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This makes no sense, you're saying this by looking at the English translations which has nothing to do with the Korean raws, assuming what Randomlamdom said is true there is no writing it off as "yeah dimensions can totally just mean a parallel world" if the raw specifically uses a word that refers to mathematical dimensions then it is strictly referring to mathematical dimensions. It is why Robo mentioned getting the raws towards the start of the thread, on that note it would be nice if they could find the scan where it's confirmed if they actually used that specific wording or not, and maybe get it translated.
 
All the evidences and counterarguments had been there (in the pages 2 actually). So I don't need to drag this again and again. Also, I would love to always remind you guys. You're the one who claiming High 1-B needs to prove it why they meet the standards for that. Because I have already proven the contradiction enough.

Extraordinary claims needs extraordinary evidences.😉
 
Yeah and like everyone and their moms who's ever said this because they have no counterarguments, just as it is supporters job to prove a verse or character qualifies for a tier it is also your job to prove why this isn't the case as someone who is apart of the opposition. If new evidence is presented, then you likewise need to confront and counter it instead of using circular reasoning to try and shy away from actually confronting said evidence.
 
AlipheeseXIV said:
Yeah and like everyone and their moms who's ever said this because they have no counterarguments, just as it is supporters job to prove a verse or character qualifies for a tier it is also your job to prove why this isn't the case as someone who is apart of the opposition. If new evidence is presented, then you likewise need to confront and counter it instead of using circular reasoning to try and shy away from actually confronting said evidence.
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Nah I just think this website gets more and more fried with each passing day but who knows
 
EinelRendezvous said:
Would you like to give your input here?
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I've been busy with school stuff (also I never saw this thread because I'm not really into Blue Archive like that) but I'm glad someone decided to do this anyways. Saves me a lot of stress. But I still do kinda want to give my take on it.
Randomlamdom said:
Coming out of hibernation just to say the word they’re using for for dimension does mean math dimensions 차원 / 다차원
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That's one of its meanings, but not the only one. Just like with Japanese, it does have other meanings such as "aspect". As Qawsedf and Unqver have pointed out, in this case, the context makes it quite clear that the word translated as "dimension" is used to refer to "universes" (or, more precisely, quantum states) rather than actual spatial dimensions/axes.

In particular, as mentioned earlier, there is a part where A.R.O.N.A. explains that the Ark has the ability to "restore" itself by summoning an identical copy of itself from "another dimension." Obviously, this makes zero sense if it were talking about spatial dimensions (it wouldn't be exactly the same if it had different spatial dimensions, and the way this is worded implies that the Ark is summoning something from a place) and only makes sense if the "dimensions" in question are other worlds. Additionally, here, it is revealed in a conversation that the Ark's "multi-dimensional analysis ability" is actually the ability to pull copies of things "from another world." Not spatial axes, but "another world." Remember that the context of the quote that mentioned infinite dimensions in the first place was that Hanako was talking about the exact same aforementioned ability that the Ark uses to pull copies of things from "infinite dimensions." These quotes explain that the context of these "dimensions" is that they are other "worlds," not actual spatial axes/dimensions.

Furthermore, the "worlds=dimensions" interpretation makes much more sense in the context of what Hanako was talking about. If "dimensions" are worlds, then Hanako pointing out the fact that infinite dimensions/worlds exists was relevant since it explained why the Ark would've be able to summon sanctums endlessly: because there are an infinite amount of worlds that each have their own sanctums for the Ark to summon. On the other hand, if these "dimensions" are actually spatial axes, then that means Hanako was just giving random, unrelated trivia about the blue archive cosmology for no reason since the existence of infinite spatial axes doesn't really help the Ark summon more Sanctums.

There are some other quotes showing this as well. There was this guy called the Underground Dweller, and he had the ability to influence the world "while hidden in another dimension." Said "dimension" is explained to be another "realm" or a "world." The same guy is said to be in a "dimensional overlap" which of course only makes sense if his position is overlapping between his world and the normal world, since you can't exactly "overlap" between spatial axes.
BestMGQScalerEver said:
Dimensional superiority isn't required for high 1-B btw (I've heard this from Agnaa). Since when infinite dimensions are involved (even insignificant in size) it ends up infinity either way.
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Why exactly do we accept this anyways? I mean maybe those "insignificant" gaps could add up, but why do we think they add up to infinite layers of dimensional superiority? I'm not sure how that logically follows.
 
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Oh right, one more thing. OP pointed out the fact that we don't really have any way to scale anyone in the verse to the supposed infinite-dimensional cosmology in the first place
TheGreatJedi13 said:
and afaik the Ark is hinted to be an infinite-dimensional character
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"afaik this guy was hinted to scale to this" isn't remotely enough evidence to scale a character to something. Even if your scaling was valid (it isn't), you would still need to provide ACTUAL sources that demonstrate that someone/something in the verse actually scales to the infinite dimensions of the universe.
 
Telomera said:
"afaik this guy was hinted to scale to this" isn't remotely enough evidence to scale a character to something. Even if your scaling was valid (it isn't), you would still need to provide ACTUAL sources that demonstrate that someone/something in the verse actually scales to the infinite dimensions of the universe.
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TheGreatJedi13 said:
But seeing it's somewhat still calculable, I doubt it should scale to High 1-B. The Ark, having infinite-dimensional energy, is fine and all, but the Ship should only scale to where the Ark is within the state spaces. which i doubt the franchise tackle
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Hence why I said it shouldn't scale too high 1-B eitherway.
So in the end although scaling is possible. It still falls through with the final conclusion I said where it shouldn't be high 1-B
 
TheGreatJedi13 said:
Hence why I said it shouldn't scale too high 1-B eitherway.
So in the end although scaling is possible. It still falls through with the final conclusion I said where it shouldn't be high 1-B
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Maybe the way you phrased it was weird, but it seemed like you were trying to say that scaling the Ark specifically to High 1-B would be "fine and all." Just to be clear, what do you think should be scaled to High 1-B? Just the cosmology and nothing else? Just the cosmology AND the Ark?
 
Telomera said:
Maybe the way you phrased it was weird, but it seemed like you were trying to say that scaling the Ark specifically to High 1-B would be "fine and all." Just to be clear, what do you think should be scaled to High 1-B? Just the cosmology and nothing else? Just the cosmology AND the Ark?
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I believe the cosmology should scale to high 1-B, but nothing has really shown anything capable of reaching that level. The Ark arguably could, but there are issues I will mention below, whether or not the Ark is really in high 1-B state. But skipping the explanation, I believe the cosmology should be high 1-B. The Ark has issues except for the fact that it has infinite-dimensional energy. But we don't really grant people high 3-A potency even if they have infinite stamina. Dragonpetling has more to argue in this response. But it's more in the context of the story. Mine is tackling a specific event that happened with the barrier

We do know it can achieve quantum superposition, but the fact that midway through the attack, it changed and adds axis which implies it nots really in the high 1-B axis as people believed, but rather somewhere within the Quantum space (which is high 1-B at max as a whole since we are talking about many world theories with quantum states involved else there wouldn't be quantum superposition in play here), Else, adding that extra axis does absolutely nothing
Honestly, being generous, it would just be low 1-C since we do at least know it added another Axis while they are already in the same quantum superposition states, which already makes them exist across all parallel worlds of the 2-A size based on how they explained it.

To elaborate why. Although this is a many-worlds theory with quantum states. If they are really in the Quantum superposition for the entirety, like I mentioned, it wouldn't matter if the ark adds another axis, since that means they are existing simultaneously all across that quantum space. But the fact that 1 additional axis makes them no longer unable to match even with the Ship, which shows a limitation. There comes the opposing side's argument that it should just be 2-A. Which makes sense.

Now, since the Ship never really reached that extra axis, neither do the people inside, and the only person who was able to break the barrier is Aris. Logically, she would scale since she used the same self-something to nullify it, meaning it tried to match it, but only at that moment with that specific Gun and only one time, so I doubt it would scale to striking and durability, so the whole scaling falls off from there. (Refer to dragonpetling response in regards for any event regarding the True Ark and the Ship in later stories, but I believe neither of those is relevant for my argument, or the Concept of the Ark is substantial enough to argue for high 1-B)

Now, the key issue for low 1-C is the significant size. But my argument would be that it's a superposition state initially on a 2-A scale, added with another axis, would also mean it is of significant size, of at least an infinitely low complex multiverse. But I have no direct evidence to prove this, just a logical assumption based on how it went.
 
TheGreatJedi13 said:
I believe the cosmology should scale to high 1-B, but nothing has really shown anything capable of reaching that level. The Ark arguably could, but there are issues I will mention below, whether or not the Ark is really in high 1-B state. But skipping the explanation, I believe the cosmology should be high 1-B. The Ark has issues except for the fact that it has infinite-dimensional energy. But we don't really grant people high 3-A potency even if they have infinite stamina. Dragonpetling has more to argue in this response. But it's more in the context of the story. Mine is tackling a specific event that happened with the barrier

We do know it can achieve quantum superposition, but the fact that midway through the attack, it changed and adds axis which implies it nots really in the high 1-B axis as people believed, but rather somewhere within the Quantum space (which is high 1-B at max as a whole since we are talking about many world theories with quantum states involved else there wouldn't be quantum superposition in play here), Else, adding that extra axis does absolutely nothing
Honestly, being generous, it would just be low 1-C since we do at least know it added another Axis while they are already in the same quantum superposition states, which already makes them exist across all parallel worlds of the 2-A size based on how they explained it.

To elaborate why. Although this is a many-worlds theory with quantum states. If they are really in the Quantum superposition for the entirety, like I mentioned, it wouldn't matter if the ark adds another axis, since that means they are existing simultaneously all across that quantum space. But the fact that 1 additional axis makes them no longer unable to match even with the Ship, which shows a limitation. There comes the opposing side's argument that it should just be 2-A. Which makes sense.

Now, since the Ship never really reached that extra axis, neither do the people inside, and the only person who was able to break the barrier is Aris. Logically, she would scale since she used the same self-something to nullify it, meaning it tried to match it, but only at that moment with that specific Gun and only one time, so I doubt it would scale to striking and durability, so the whole scaling falls off from there. (Refer to dragonpetling response in regards for any event regarding the True Ark and the Ship in later stories, but I believe neither of those is relevant for my argument, or the Concept of the Ark is substantial enough to argue for high 1-B)

Now, the key issue for low 1-C is the significant size. But my argument would be that it's a superposition state initially on a 2-A scale, added with another axis, would also mean it is of significant size, of at least an infinitely low complex multiverse. But I have no direct evidence to prove this, just a logical assumption based on how it went.
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I disagree with suddenly bringing in Low 1-C when Ark is so clearly not a higher dimensional construct. Ark It has multidimensional analysis technology that leans more toward dimensional manipulation. And again, it's a 3-D construction with diagrams that are very explicit from the series itself.

Bringing up MWI points againts kinda pointless. MWI doesn't make you Low 1-C or High 1-B all of sudden. You bringing this should be clear enough the dimensions context was reffered to universes, which could lead to 2-B potentially 2-A.
 
Telomera said:
I've been busy with school stuff (also I never saw this thread because I'm not really into Blue Archive like that) but I'm glad someone decided to do this anyways. Saves me a lot of stress. But I still do kinda want to give my take on it.

That's one of its meanings, but not the only one. Just like with Japanese, it does have other meanings such as "aspect". As Qawsedf and Unqver have pointed out, in this case, the context makes it quite clear that the word translated as "dimension" is used to refer to "universes" (or, more precisely, quantum states) rather than actual spatial dimensions/axes.

In particular, as mentioned earlier, there is a part where A.R.O.N.A. explains that the Ark has the ability to "restore" itself by summoning an identical copy of itself from "another dimension." Obviously, this makes zero sense if it were talking about spatial dimensions (it wouldn't be exactly the same if it had different spatial dimensions, and the way this is worded implies that the Ark is summoning something from a place) and only makes sense if the "dimensions" in question are other worlds. Additionally, here, it is revealed in a conversation that the Ark's "multi-dimensional analysis ability" is actually the ability to pull copies of things "from another world." Not spatial axes, but "another world." Remember that the context of the quote that mentioned infinite dimensions in the first place was that Hanako was talking about the exact same aforementioned ability that the Ark uses to pull copies of things from "infinite dimensions." These quotes explain that the context of these "dimensions" is that they are other "worlds," not actual spatial axes/dimensions.

Furthermore, the "worlds=dimensions" interpretation makes much more sense in the context of what Hanako was talking about. If "dimensions" are worlds, then Hanako pointing out the fact that infinite dimensions/worlds exists was relevant since it explained why the Ark would've be able to summon sanctums endlessly: because there are an infinite amount of worlds that each have their own sanctums for the Ark to summon. On the other hand, if these "dimensions" are actually spatial axes, then that means Hanako was just giving random, unrelated trivia about the blue archive cosmology for no reason since the existence of infinite spatial axes doesn't really help the Ark summon more Sanctums.

There are some other quotes showing this as well. There was this guy called the Underground Dweller, and he had the ability to influence the world "while hidden in another dimension." Said "dimension" is explained to be another "realm" or a "world." The same guy is said to be in a "dimensional overlap" which of course only makes sense if his position is overlapping between his world and the normal world, since you can't exactly "overlap" between spatial axes.

Why exactly do we accept this anyways? I mean maybe those "insignificant" gaps could add up, but why do we think they add up to infinite layers of dimensional superiority? I'm not sure how that logically follows.
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Thank you for the input.
 
EinelRendezvous said:
Bringing up MWI points againts kinda pointless. MWI doesn't make you Low 1-C or High 1-B all of sudden. You bringing this should be clear enough the dimensions context was reffered to universes, which could lead to 2-B potentially 2-A.
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it does if it includes Quantum states within those possibilities, but you kept ignoring and disregarding it and this is the last time im gonna tell you this
 
Telomera said:
Why exactly do we accept this anyways? I mean maybe those "insignificant" gaps could add up, but why do we think they add up to infinite layers of dimensional superiority? I'm not sure how that logically follows.
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Because the volume of that space is going to end up as infinite either way, considering that (to use a bunch of shorthand) Length in 1D*Length in 2D*Length in 3D..., is going to end up giving an infinite volume as a result, and thus High 1-B, it doesn't matter the size of the lengths, unless you have reason to assume (for some reason) that the number of dimensions it has extension in is finite, but considering most statements of (potentially) being infinite dimensional apply to spaces, and thus have zero reason to have that apply, that never comes up
(And no, you don't need to prove the dimensions are "transcendent" or "superior" or whatever for that, what that stuff is trying to prove (that the dimensions are not compactified, which is what those standards are actually about), doesn't have an impact on infinite D stuff, since even if their measures were all planck lengths down to 0D, it would still result in an infinite D hypervolume, is just a conseqence of working with infinities)
 
Deonment said:
Because the volume of that space is going to end up as infinite either way, considering that (to use a bunch of shorthand) Length in 1D*Length in 2D*Length in 3D..., is going to end up giving an infinite volume as a result, and thus High 1-B, it doesn't matter the size of the lengths, unless you have reason to assume (for some reason) that the number of dimensions it has extension in is finite, but considering most statements of (potentially) being infinite dimensional apply to spaces, and thus have zero reason to have that apply, that never comes up
(And no, you don't need to prove the dimensions are "transcendent" or "superior" or whatever for that, what that stuff is trying to prove (that the dimensions are not compactified, which is what those standards are actually about), doesn't have an impact on infinite D stuff, since even if their measures were all planck lengths down to 0D, it would still result in an infinite D hypervolume, is just a conseqence of working with infinities)
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Except the dimensions in Blue Archive doesn't actually relevant with such tier and assumption. There's no statement from such objects having infinite volume or whatsoever.
 
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