(7-0-0) Little Mac vs. King Arthur (Monty Python)

[Jackythejack]

Apparently women in lakes handing out swords is not a good system for deciding the boxing champion of the world. AKA, King Arthur finds his way in a boxing ring and has to tussle with the best of them. Speed equalized, second key little mac.

Little Mac (559kj):

King Arthur (163kj):

 

[Jackythejack]

Bump

 

[Arkansalter2]

Doesn't Mac fight people with literal hax?

 

[Jackythejack]

No?

Unless you count illusion creation as hax-

Either way he’s gonna have a hard time against a guy with a sword and a shield

 

[Arkansalter2]

No?

Unless you count illusion creation as hax-

Either way he’s gonna have a hard time against a guy with a sword and a shield

Mac fought a gorilla.

 

[Jackythejack]

Mac fought a gorilla.

Thats not a skilled fighter with a sword and shield though. Arthur’s got a range advantage at least

 

[Jackythejack]

Bump

 

[MannyQ361]

While Little Mac did fight Piston Honda, who caught a katana while training, he goes more for dodging and blocking. Though getting hit by King Arthur would be damaging.

 

[Jackythejack]

Yeah that’s what I figured. Mac’s gonna have to work a lot harder to get in close to deal damage when that sword is so deadly.

 

[LandonTheGuy]

i think that in the skill department Mac is slightly better (due of expirience) but there is a slight 1,4 times ap for the Knight.

Even if they start to grapple they still would have comparable ls (if we don't count the class 1 ls key the knight has)

Does the Knight have the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch?

 

[Jackythejack]

Does the Knight have the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch?

He sure does.

 

[LandonTheGuy]

He sure does.

not looking good for Mac, but with speed equalized he should be capable of dodging it

 

[Jackythejack]

Yeah they both have ways to punch above their normal values but the difficulty is pulling it off.

You have any consensus here?

 

[LandonTheGuy]

Yeah they both have ways to punch above their normal values but the difficulty is pulling it off.

You have any consensus here?

they... really don't have much over the other so i guess we should go over more minor stuff like iq and stamina.

They are both Above average (altho Mac is just battle iq) but Mac should have an higher stamina (i'll assume high stamina is an older way of saing Athletic) and if 1+1=3 Athletic < Peak human.

Mac extreme diff on my opinion

 

[Jackythejack]

Alright we got one for Mac

 

[Jackythejack]

Bump

 

[Jackythejack]

Bump

 

[Jackythejack]

bump

 

[Jackythejack]

bump

 

[Drite77]

So like, I think the fact Arthur has weapons is something that is not being taken into account enough, even if Little Mac is more skilled the Arthur, one needs to acknowledge the range gap between them. Arthur is bigger and has a sword, Little Mac is only 5'7'', on top of that, Arthur has a shield, which is a much better block tool then arms.

Sure, Little Mac has fought bigger opponents, but that's still not comparable to someone who has a sword and a shield, stamina hardly matters, the fight is not going to extend for too long before one of them loses, and even if they start grappling, Arthur should, once again, have the upper hand.

Like, unless I'm missing an important detail, I don't see how Little Mac wins, they don't even need to fight to the death, if Little Mac loses a limb, Arthur might ask for him to give up, and I don't know if a boxer would continue fighting after losing an arm if given the chance to give up

 

[Jackythejack]

Fair point. I take it that’s a vote for Mac?

I think Mac, to be fair, could theoretically dodge attacks to sneak in some punches, or use powerful star punches or o potentially giga max to help him out.

 

[Drite77]

Fair point. I take it that’s a vote for Mac?

I think Mac, to be fair, could theoretically dodge attacks to sneak in some punches, or use powerful star punches or o potentially giga max to help him out.

For Arthur '-'. He could try to dodge it, but a sword wound is much more lethal then a punch in the long and short term. I don't know what are the conditions for the little man to become not-little man

 

[Jackythejack]

Oh yeah duh for Arthur. I misspoke sorry

Admittedly I’m not all too familiar with the conditions myself. I think he has to hit enough times in the head.

 

[Drite77]

No worries. Anyhow, it the condition is hitting in the head, I doubt he'll be able to access it between a shield and the fact Arthur has a weapon that Little Mac likely can't just disarm via the LS advantage he has

 

[Jackythejack]

Gotcha. So we got a 1-1 at the moment.

(Can I DM you one more thread to vote on it’d save me a lot of trouble)

 

[Drite77]

Gotcha. So we got a 1-1 at the moment.

(Can I DM you one more thread to vote on it’d save me a lot of trouble)

I have 7 of the last matches you've commented open in tabs for me to go 1 by 1, I'll likely tackle the one you want eventually '-'

 

[Jackythejack]

I have 7 of the last matches you've commented open in tabs for me to go 1 by 1, I'll likely tackle the one you want eventually '-'

You’re like the coolest guy lol

 

[OrangeFR]

Not really sure how Mac deals with the sword and shield, going with Arthur.

 

[DragoZeroNova]

I feel like I always comment this on Little Mac matches, but Little Mac in base form is actually 599.3 kj, scaling to Sandman on his profile.

 

[OrangeFR]

I feel like I always comment this on Little Mac matches, but Little Mac in base form is actually 599.3 kj, scaling to Sandman on his profile.

Calc isn’t linked on the verse page so people probably don’t realize.

Anyway, with this new info I would like to see others’ opinions before deciding.

 

[Jackythejack]

well that ***** it up a little bit

 

[MintyBoi1]

If Mac’s that much stronger and better at reading opponents, I don’t think the sword will be able to kill him before he lands the one Star Punch he needs. Dodging one hits is a thing he’s known to do, even with range disadvantage. The only real problem is the shield, though I’m sure he could take advantage of little openings like mentioned earlier to bypass that. Voting Mac

 

[Drite77]

I'll re-evaluate my vote after work

 

[DragoZeroNova]

Calc isn’t linked on the verse page so people probably don’t realize.

Anyway, with this new info I would like to see others’ opinions before deciding.

I'll just do that, since it messes people up a lot (and I've also added it to Mac's profile). Shouldn't need a CRT to add a calc to a verse page/character if it's already accepted and used on some profiles.

 

[Jackythejack]

Since it doesn’t really drastically change the tier yeah it should be fine. If it bumped the verse to like, tier 8 somehow then yeah you’d need a CRT lol

 

[DragoZeroNova]

Since it doesn’t really drastically change the tier yeah it should be fine. If it bumped the verse to like, tier 8 somehow then yeah you’d need a CRT lol

Well, my guess is that they were supposed to have that value in the first place since they scale to Sandman who has that calc in his AP and the calc is accepted. But it's not like Punch-Out!! is super active, so yeah.

 

[Drite77]

With that revelation in mind, not-big-man now has a 3.42x AP advantage, yikes.

I think this changes a bit, Little Mac still has a shield he has to worry, he won't be able to break Arthur's guard that easily imo, but his punches would likely be able to do so eventually while the sword's cuts are somewhat made less fatal due the AP difference.

I don't know a lot about not-big-man's techniques, but he can likely open some space to land some hits, which are much better then I previoulsy thought due to the new AP difference. It is still not easy, however, as the shield is still there and a weapon still gives Arthur an advantage over Little Mac, but overall, Little Mac likely takes this in a high-diff fight

 

[Jackythejack]

the king of the britons can't catch a break man

3 for Mac, and for Arthur's third loss

 

[Jackythejack]

bump

 

[Jackythejack]

bump