I'll be fr most of this is just pointless fluff that does nothing but make the conversation more difficult to follow and participate in. So I'll write what's probably my last comment to avoid wasting time
This is also the last time I reply to you because you essentially have no concrete argument that beats mine and you are strawmaning my arguments so I won't even bother addressing you again.
So you're admitting we need to wait for cour 4 to address a major part of this topic BUT at the same time refuse to wait for cour 4?
Thats not what I said at all, I
NEVER said cour 4 is relevant nor addresses anything relating to this topic, that is a lie. What I said is cour 4 can potentially contribute another LS feat of higher scale by truly explaining the mechanics or shedding more light on iruzando because people like
you keep talking about cour 4 against my CRT
implicitly stating no one should bring cour 4 scaling as the foundations of my argument doesn't address it nor does it need it. As the feat I am proposing is from a decade old movie and not tybw.
So yes, my topic doesn't need cour 4 scaling unless whatever happens in cour 4 addresses blanks feat itself and to use that as an argument is to appeal to unfounded possibilities while my CRT does the opposite of that.
It's literally described as Ichigo "
feeling the weight" of what he's trying to protect (which is the 3 realms).
So what about the other realms in bleach that is also stated to be sustained by the soul king? Also where does ichigo start feeling the weight, is at the beginning or at the ending of the trail? because in both sections Because ichigo feels different magnitude of forces acting on him on beginning of the trail and at the end. Note these are rhetorical questions I don't expect you to answer them because nothing you say would be concrete and if you answer them I won't even bother responding to an argument that isn’t CRT worthy.
If you plan to continue this argument then you are unironically asserting Ichigo’s LS to be immeasurable without concrete evidence, using a vague argument that isn't even concrete until cour 4 puts an explanation to the feat itself. Thus the feat is useless and holds no weight to my CRT.
This is still a vague argument that is not blatant enough for a CRT evaluation thus using it as to override a more blatant one is abysmal and if he scales there, there is no argument that would deny the others scaling as well. It only means Ichigo can withstand the weight of the realms far longer than they can still showing superior LS while having relative force to the other characters I am proposing.
It's not that they seem AI corrected, it's that they seem AI generated. You can of course use AI to fix your grammar (tho it feels completely unnecessary in this case) but if you're going to flood the thread with a massive gish gallop, I'd say using AI to generate it is a pretty shitty thing to do.
Thats your business, none of the staff addresses that nor does it change any of the point I made and proved in this CRT. And what does it matter anyway if what I am still saying
IS BACKED UP BY MY OWN SCANS.
That's a false equivalence. Given that Yhwach has universal range this would ve more like a ssj3 gorilla lifting a single atom 0.00000000000000000001cm away.
I won't even bother addressing something I have already addressed seeing as its clearly rage bait.
Yhwach with universal range lifting something few kilometers away is as impressive as a gorilla with a 2.5 meter range lifting something 384,400,000 meters away?
Notice how you say
few kilometers away, after I corrected you that the range of movement is billions of miles
MULTIPLE TIMES already completely cementing your poor unfounded arguments.
And idk why are you pointing out "with aura" as if 99% of Bleach characters didn't have aura.
And no character has used just their aura to lift something or perform a substantial feat. It is
consistently shown that physicals amplified by reaitsu is what does any thing substantial not aura only. This is why we consider senjumaru being stronger than gremmy cause hers was just aura while Gremmy’s was his full power output. So like I said your argument isn't concrete.
It is not important to consider as a lack of evidence that they consider it impressive isn't evidence that they don't.
Then the burden of proof would be on you to prove that they were impressed since you are the one who made the original claim.
Meanwhile characters who fought S0 and are teammates with people like Uryu DID consider it impressive even after seeing that Yhwach even absorbed the SK.
Since you want to appeal to possibility I can also do the same, it is also possible uryu considers the matter manipulation (a quincy basic ability taking to extreme levels of island to country sized level warping ) to be impressive. He isn't on the SS where the wandereich is being physically lifted. Your stance doesn't prove uryu being impressed by the lifting strength and even if he was, Uryu as a quincy physically so he can't use his reaistu to do stuff like that so it doesn't even matter.
Wowza insane misinformation!
That makes the distinction only 180 quadrillion times smaller than Yhwachs actual range! Crazy difference.
This argument isn't about the magnitude but the fact that both showings are much lower than the rating they scale to. So you basically are trying to say the difference here is higher so therefore means this shouldn't scale but this one should. This is invalid as both are astronomical value differences and no where in this wiki is outlier difference quantifed. So if you want to disagree with the LS, then AP, Range and SS should be removed as well.
This means they were definitely impressed by him using 0.0000000000000005% of his range…
Still waiting for you to prove they were "impressed" by his LS. Until then I won't humor this poor argument.
What kind of question is that? These aren't even remotely close to being even slightly comparable
Characters who have followed Yhwach, know about the soul king who's power Yhwach has just absorbed, and have fought S0 who's supposedly scaling to it?
Proof of this? How would they fathom a power that only Aizen and ichigo can sense lol.
They didn't even know about the S0 power so how would they fully know about the reio. The only case you can make here who knows what reio is capable off is jugram and even he is not shocked by what yhwach can do.
Hell one of their teammates is Uryu who does scale and is actually a crux of you scaling here.
Yes so?
So this entire argument relies on the entire group being completely unaware of SK, S0s, or Yhwachs power and downplaying by nonillions of times.
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Exacly and they are unaware, they didn't know about S0 blood oath seal, they didn't even fully understood what yhwach became ONLY jugram. So for you to assert the opposite would be to prove that with scans and not incoherent arguments.
Again for the last time, Daewi doing something in a different verse means nothing towards what's true in Bleach…
Different verses still fall under this wiki rules and as far as I am concerned no verse is given an outlier exception. So yes I can do as I please in this case and use your own verse against you. So answer the question or stop tagging me.
No I'm debunking your example from a different verse.
Which you FAILED to do as different verses have different energy systems which this wiki shows. Bleach notably has UES which is listed under the wiki's UES distribution page GOH doesn't making your analogy fall short. Also notice how wiki seperates UES, LES and other distribution systems but doesn't separate verses when it comes to outlier rules. It's funny how you say GOH is different than bleach when it comes to outlier but its not different when you are the one making the comparisons lol.
What's even funnier is how the wiki support seperate ratings in my case but does the opposite to yours given me liberty for a comparison and doesn't give you that same chance.
Yes you said it can scale IN A DIFFERENT VERSE.
Whatever floats your boat my good sir.
Nobody doubted "non contact force can scale to LS" but whether this scales to physicals or whether it was done by some form of telekinesis.
Well I thought she did, because a lot of people don't know that. Regardless this is an irrelevant argument that you keep dragging out that holds no root to the overall message of my CRT.
Anyway write me down as disagreeing with LS. Like I said I agree with Qawsedfs reasoning to begin with
A reasoning i debunked but I will add your name there regardless.
and what I brought up just strengthens the idea that the LS interpretation is narratively wildly inconsistent
No it doesn't at all LMAO.