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This thread was made after a lot of observation, correcting old mistakes, and updating the info we had since the previous CRT. I also want to mention that several people contributed ideas that helped shape this thread. I strongly recommend reading everything here before forming an opinion.
Little addition: my imgur is not linking the scans properly so I used imgbox instead so make sure you look at the top right corner of your screen if there are more images and use the arrow to navigate.
INTRODUCTION
Unlike my last thread, this one is going to cover several key points:
• Reasons for removing the previous Senna rating
• A proposal for a new and updated rating for both AP/LS
• Evaluating the LS and AP requirements based on our wiki standards
• Justifying character scaling and making sure it stays consistent
NOTE:
This thread is NOT focused on Cour 4 revisions or any updates to the verse or its characters. It also has nothing to do with Yhwach or Soul King scaling—those topics are for others to handle once Cour 4 releases, potentially giving the highest tiers even higher LS and AP than the one i am proposing in this CRT. The only reason they're mentioned here is because, as top-tier characters, they would naturally scale above Senna and be affected by any rating changes.
Please avoid bringing in scaling that isn’t directly based on Senna’s feats, so the thread doesn’t get derailed. Again, this is not about TYBW Yhwach cosmology scaling—it's strictly about Senna’s own feat and how it affects Squad Zero–level characters and above.
LOW 4-C REMOVAL RATING
Before the Thousand-Year Blood War anime came out, the evidence supporting the realms being full universes wasn’t strong enough, things were vague, unclear, and there just wasn’t enough information suggesting universal-sized realms. But with the new information from the TYBW anime which basically retcons old movie-era assumptions, fixes contradictions, and expands the scale of the realms—we now have better context.
Because of that, I’m proposing that the old calc should be removed and replaced with one that lines up more clearly with Kubo’s intended cosmology.
Memories of Nobody Exhibit
This section explains why the realms shouldn’t be considered planetary, based on the movie’s own internal logic.
Visual Representation of the Realms
Urahara visually compares the World of the Living and Soul Society to the Valley of Screams, showing both realms as much larger than the Valley—a dimension with its own natural star. This is backed up by the Research and Development Department’s display of the visual computation of the realms.
If the realms were just planet-sized, the Valley of Screams should logically appear star- or solar-system-sized in comparison, but it doesn’t. Instead, the other realms massively dwarf it, which supports a much larger cosmological scale.
Cosmology and Logical Implications
The movie explains—verbally and visually—that the Dangai surrounds all three realms, including the Valley of Screams. We also see stars visible in the World of the Living during these scenes.
If the realms were just planets, seeing stars while enclosed inside the Dangai wouldn’t make sense. The setup fits way better with universe-sized spaces rather than isolated planets.
Yes, TYBW later retcons this by stating the Garganta surrounds the realms instead—but this point still matters because even the movie’s logic doesn’t support the realms being planetary.
Collision Impact Statement
Mayuri theorizes that the collision between the two realms could destroy “the universe.” Even if we interpret “universe” loosely as in "their cosmological system”, that still places the colliding bodies far beyond planetary scale. Two planets crashing into each other wouldn’t produce even a tiny fraction of that level of destruction.
And he’s not referring to the soul cycle or metaphysics—he’s specifically talking about gravitational, physical impact.
These points already undermine the original calc, and when combined with newer TYBW info, the old Low 4-C interpretation doesn’t hold anymore.
Thousand-Year Blood War Anime Exhibit
The strongest supporting evidence comes from Senjumaru, who directly refers the three realms in a way that clearly implies universal scale. The community already accepts this, including Low 2-C realms from another CRT—so replacing the previous calc is consistent with accepted standards.
Also, the movie has been officially confirmed as canon in Episode 32 of the TYBW anime, which further strengthens the argument. That same episode shows multiple Valleys of Screams visualized as much smaller than the realms—again reinforcing the updated cosmology.
Conclusion
With all this combined, the old Low 4-C rating doesn’t reflect current canon or author intent. Because of that, it should be removed and replaced with the updated proposal in the next section.
NEW UNIVERSAL LS RATING AND BREAKDOWN
In the previous CRT, it was agreed that Senna pushing the realms apart wouldn’t count as LS, since the force came from the explosive shockwave released by the Blanks’ energy meaning it was brief, instantaneous, and fits only AP rather than sustained LS. I still fully stand by that interpretation. However, the LS being proposed now doesn’t come from Senna’s explosion at all. It comes from the Blanks before that moment specifically, their ongoing gravitational pull that was slowly dragging both realms toward a collision. That sustained force is what qualifies as lifting strength, not the final blast that pushes them away.
FEAT BREAKDOWN
For those who haven't watched the movie the bleach fandom wiki explains the event and plot of the movie perfectly here: https://bleach.fandom.com/wiki/Bleach:_Memories_of_Nobody or you can watch the movie if you want to. Regardless, I will go over certain plot points in the movie in order to bring more context to the feat.
Early in the movie, it’s explained that the Valley of Screams was formed by Blanks between the World of the Living and Soul Society, acting like a bridge attached to both realms. When Senna (the combined memories of the Blanks, aka the Shinenju) is placed at the center of the Valley, the Blanks instinctively rush toward her. This chain reaction causes them to generate a gravitational pull strong enough to contract the Valley and drag both connected realms toward each other.
Mayuri further explains that this pull would eventually force Soul Society and the World of the Living into a full-on collision. He even estimates it would take about an hour for the realms to finally crash, meaning the Blanks are exerting a continuous, sustained force over a long period which directly matches LS criteria.
Overall, the movie makes it clear that the Blanks aren’t causing a one-off explosion or random burst of energy, they’re actively and continuously dragging two massive realms toward each other over an extended period of time. That means the force involved isn’t just destructive AP, but a sustained pulling force that lines up perfectly with how LS is defined. So the setup, mechanics, and narrative all support treating this as a legitimate lifting strength feat.
NEW LS AND AP SCALING PROPOSAL
Since treating the realms as universes lines up more accurately with the author’s intent, I’m proposing we use the ratings from the already CGM accepted calc (credit to Arc7kuroi). The calc relies on minimal assumptions and sticks to the default interpretation of the feat.
I’ve reorganized the existing results from arc's calc and breakdowns in a separate calc (the one we put in the bleach verse profiles) for clarity, and I also added the LS section since the original calc didn’t cover that so both AP and LS scaling are presented together.
I’m completely fine with Galaxy-level AP based off senna pushing back the realms and Universal LS based on the blanks generating an immense gravitational force to pull the dimensions for an hour into collision. The former approach has already been accepted by other CGM members, and pulling two realms with universal mass should logically equal at least twice the mass of the observable universe, especially since that’s currently what we consider the size of the realms per Senjumaru’s calc.
Final Results
Attack Potency: Galaxy level — 3.7 yottafoe
Lifting Strength: Universal — 3 × 10^53 kg (≈ 2× observable universe )
IS THE FEAT CONSISTENT?
Bleach already has other cosmic-level feats, including 4-B (Solar System level) and 4-A (Multi-Solar System level). So a 3-C (Galaxy level) feat (which naturally comes after 4-A) fits perfectly into the established power progression and shouldn’t be treated as an outlier. It’s a reasonable jump in tier and helps reinforce overall scaling consistency.
Senjumaru’s 4-B feat is just a casual reiatsu flex, which implies her actual combat output should be far higher especially considering Squad Zero’s narrative portrayal. We’re explicitly told that Squad Zero can’t all go all-out at the same time because their combined reiatsu could seriously damage or even destroy all three realms. That alone supports them being in Senna’s range when she’s empowered by the Blanks.
Consistency also shows up with Uryu (who is physically relative to senjumaru) both of his fights with Ichigo portray him as relative. And no, that doesn’t mean Ichigo was mentally nerfed, especially in their second fight. By then, he had his true Zanpakuto, accepted it, and wasn’t held back by self-doubt anymore.
Characters who only scale above Gremmy’s 4-A feat should not scale to this, since they have no direct connection to Senna or the Blank-based scaling. Still, the 4-A feat helps reinforce that the verse already has multiple high-tier cosmological benchmarks, making the 3-C result feel completely natural rather than an outlier.
With that established, the following characters would scale to the feat:
REASONS FOR RATING JUSTIFICATIONS
Before I list which characters should scale to the feat, I want to explain why increases in reiatsu also boost Lifting Strength (LS). This should clear up complaints from the previous CRT about bleach UES not getting LS increases.
First off, one obvious effect of higher reiatsu is increased downward pressure, which translates directly into LS. We see this early on when Yamamoto’s reiatsu overwhelms Nanao: she’s physically crushed by the pressure while Shunsui and Ukitake can still stand because their reiatsu protects them effectively raising their LS to match Yamamoto’s spiritual pressure.
It’s also repeatedly established that you have to train your body to withstand your own reiatsu, or your body will be physically harmed by it. TYBW gives us an extreme example where Kenpachi’s reiatsu snaps his arms off because his body couldn’t handle the power. That shows the same principle in reverse: raw reiatsu that exceeds bodily durability causes physical rupture.
To drive the point home, during the Arrancar arc Ichigo is sealed with Bakudō 75 — Gochū Tekkan — which uses five metal bars to restrain him. When Ichigo’s reiatsu surges under Hollow influence, the metal cracks and eventually breaks in response. That demonstrates a causal link: higher reiatsu → greater force exerted on the environment → higher effective LS.
Taken together, these examples support the conclusion that significant reiatsu increases should correspond to higher LS. Therefore, characters with large reiatsu surges should logically have LS at or above the level demonstrated by Senna’s Blanks.
Now to the important part: I’ll justify why the proposed characters scale to this feat. Please read the next section carefully before commenting.
SENNA:
Starting with the obvious is senna who scales because she’s the one who manipulates the blanks. However, her power comes from the Blanks, not her own physical capabilities. So she only scales while empowered by them. To be clear, Senna does not physically scale to the LS herself, since the strength comes from an external source. She’s the only character on this list where that distinction applies.
SOUL KING ADYNEUS:
As the lynchpin of the worlds, he should naturally be superior to Senna (same reasoning used for his AP scaling)
ICHIGO:
As a Soul King candidate, Ichigo possesses more reiatsu than the weakened Reio, who served as the lynchpin of the worlds—so he would naturally scale.
Pre–time skip Ichigo scales after Dangai training, since he becomes physically superior to 4th Evolution Aizen, who is stated to surpass the Soul King. Post–time skip Ichigo scales after passing the Soul King test, making him comparable to the Soul King, and he should be even higher when using Bankai and Hollowfication.
This does not include Fullbring Ichigo so he wouldn’t scale.
YHWACH
Post 9 years strength would scale, clashed with true shikai ichigo and physically dominated him multiple times, telekinetically holding off Ichigo's clash. This should also extend to his quincy restraining techniques as well, higher after he absorbed reio (should be far superior to the weakened soul king).
AIZEN:
Post 3rd evolution, (was going to replace reio as the lynchpin with the hygoku) higher in later evolutions (stated to surpass reio), even higher after muken (Urahara comments the gravitational force of his hado 90 has gotten stronger after his fight with Ichigo) this LS would extend to his kido abilities as well.
CYFOW:
Characters like Hikone would scale since they’re also Soul King candidates meaning they were intended to replace the Soul King as the lynchpin. Ikomikidomoe (after consuming the Soul King fragments) and Kenpachi are physically superior to Hikone, so their LS would scale above his. This is supported by Kenpachi physically matching Hikone during their fight. As for Ginjou, his power level is very inconsistent only rising due to his emotions so i am fine with a possibly rating since he still meets the requirements of being a soul king.
URYU:
Now for the most important character as he is essentially the link between the soul king tier characters (i.e Ichigo) and squad zero level characters (senjumaru) since he fought both in relative settings. I will list the following reasons why he scales;
All these evidence should be enough to justify uryu having comparable LS to Ichigo and thus characters who can physically clash with uryu should scale as well.
SENJUMARU:
Physically restrained awakened uryu with her fabric, so that uryu had to use antithesis to escape so she would scale at her full power.
OTHER SQUAD ZERO MEMBERS:
The likes of Oetsu, Tenjiro and hikifune would scale to full power senjumaru at their full power
ICHIBEI:
Would automatically scale as he is stronger than the rest of the squad zero members at their full power, would extend to his kido as well
RENJI:
Now for my goat, he is physically shown to be superior to uryu's LS multiple times in their fight, with uryu implying he didn't hold back;
OVERALL CONCLUSION
With the evidence, scans, and explanations presented, there’s more than enough support to remove the old calc, apply the new one, and accept the proposed scaling for the listed characters. If Cour 4 or any future Bleach material introduces contradictions to my proposed scaling, I or someone else will make a downgrade CRT and adjust the ratings accordingly. But that doesn’t mean outdated or invalid ratings should stay in place now.
I’ve also addressed the major concerns from the previous CRT, but if anyone has questions, disagreements, or additional info to contribute, feel free to tag me in the comments.
Hope you enjoyed the read!
AGREE: @Infinite9Luck (AP, neutral on LS), @Ralp0054 (AP, neutral on LS), @Lloydblitzed (AP and LS) @Adam1396 (AP, neutral on LS), @ItsMeat (AP and LS (possibly/likely rating)), (staff vote) (AP) @LephyrTheRevanchist (staff vote) (AP, neutral on LS) @Nierre (staff vote) (AP, neutral on LS) @Qawsedf234 (staff vote) (AP)
DISAGREE: @DavidTPPM (LS), @Qawsedf234 (staff vote) (LS)
Little addition: my imgur is not linking the scans properly so I used imgbox instead so make sure you look at the top right corner of your screen if there are more images and use the arrow to navigate.
INTRODUCTION
Unlike my last thread, this one is going to cover several key points:
• Reasons for removing the previous Senna rating
• A proposal for a new and updated rating for both AP/LS
• Evaluating the LS and AP requirements based on our wiki standards
• Justifying character scaling and making sure it stays consistent
NOTE:
This thread is NOT focused on Cour 4 revisions or any updates to the verse or its characters. It also has nothing to do with Yhwach or Soul King scaling—those topics are for others to handle once Cour 4 releases, potentially giving the highest tiers even higher LS and AP than the one i am proposing in this CRT. The only reason they're mentioned here is because, as top-tier characters, they would naturally scale above Senna and be affected by any rating changes.
Please avoid bringing in scaling that isn’t directly based on Senna’s feats, so the thread doesn’t get derailed. Again, this is not about TYBW Yhwach cosmology scaling—it's strictly about Senna’s own feat and how it affects Squad Zero–level characters and above.
LOW 4-C REMOVAL RATING
Before the Thousand-Year Blood War anime came out, the evidence supporting the realms being full universes wasn’t strong enough, things were vague, unclear, and there just wasn’t enough information suggesting universal-sized realms. But with the new information from the TYBW anime which basically retcons old movie-era assumptions, fixes contradictions, and expands the scale of the realms—we now have better context.
Because of that, I’m proposing that the old calc should be removed and replaced with one that lines up more clearly with Kubo’s intended cosmology.
Memories of Nobody Exhibit
This section explains why the realms shouldn’t be considered planetary, based on the movie’s own internal logic.
Visual Representation of the Realms
Urahara visually compares the World of the Living and Soul Society to the Valley of Screams, showing both realms as much larger than the Valley—a dimension with its own natural star. This is backed up by the Research and Development Department’s display of the visual computation of the realms.
If the realms were just planet-sized, the Valley of Screams should logically appear star- or solar-system-sized in comparison, but it doesn’t. Instead, the other realms massively dwarf it, which supports a much larger cosmological scale.
Cosmology and Logical Implications
The movie explains—verbally and visually—that the Dangai surrounds all three realms, including the Valley of Screams. We also see stars visible in the World of the Living during these scenes.
If the realms were just planets, seeing stars while enclosed inside the Dangai wouldn’t make sense. The setup fits way better with universe-sized spaces rather than isolated planets.
Yes, TYBW later retcons this by stating the Garganta surrounds the realms instead—but this point still matters because even the movie’s logic doesn’t support the realms being planetary.
Collision Impact Statement
Mayuri theorizes that the collision between the two realms could destroy “the universe.” Even if we interpret “universe” loosely as in "their cosmological system”, that still places the colliding bodies far beyond planetary scale. Two planets crashing into each other wouldn’t produce even a tiny fraction of that level of destruction.
And he’s not referring to the soul cycle or metaphysics—he’s specifically talking about gravitational, physical impact.
These points already undermine the original calc, and when combined with newer TYBW info, the old Low 4-C interpretation doesn’t hold anymore.
Thousand-Year Blood War Anime Exhibit
The strongest supporting evidence comes from Senjumaru, who directly refers the three realms in a way that clearly implies universal scale. The community already accepts this, including Low 2-C realms from another CRT—so replacing the previous calc is consistent with accepted standards.
Also, the movie has been officially confirmed as canon in Episode 32 of the TYBW anime, which further strengthens the argument. That same episode shows multiple Valleys of Screams visualized as much smaller than the realms—again reinforcing the updated cosmology.
Conclusion
With all this combined, the old Low 4-C rating doesn’t reflect current canon or author intent. Because of that, it should be removed and replaced with the updated proposal in the next section.
NEW UNIVERSAL LS RATING AND BREAKDOWN
In the previous CRT, it was agreed that Senna pushing the realms apart wouldn’t count as LS, since the force came from the explosive shockwave released by the Blanks’ energy meaning it was brief, instantaneous, and fits only AP rather than sustained LS. I still fully stand by that interpretation. However, the LS being proposed now doesn’t come from Senna’s explosion at all. It comes from the Blanks before that moment specifically, their ongoing gravitational pull that was slowly dragging both realms toward a collision. That sustained force is what qualifies as lifting strength, not the final blast that pushes them away.
FEAT BREAKDOWN
For those who haven't watched the movie the bleach fandom wiki explains the event and plot of the movie perfectly here: https://bleach.fandom.com/wiki/Bleach:_Memories_of_Nobody or you can watch the movie if you want to. Regardless, I will go over certain plot points in the movie in order to bring more context to the feat.
Early in the movie, it’s explained that the Valley of Screams was formed by Blanks between the World of the Living and Soul Society, acting like a bridge attached to both realms. When Senna (the combined memories of the Blanks, aka the Shinenju) is placed at the center of the Valley, the Blanks instinctively rush toward her. This chain reaction causes them to generate a gravitational pull strong enough to contract the Valley and drag both connected realms toward each other.
Mayuri further explains that this pull would eventually force Soul Society and the World of the Living into a full-on collision. He even estimates it would take about an hour for the realms to finally crash, meaning the Blanks are exerting a continuous, sustained force over a long period which directly matches LS criteria.
Overall, the movie makes it clear that the Blanks aren’t causing a one-off explosion or random burst of energy, they’re actively and continuously dragging two massive realms toward each other over an extended period of time. That means the force involved isn’t just destructive AP, but a sustained pulling force that lines up perfectly with how LS is defined. So the setup, mechanics, and narrative all support treating this as a legitimate lifting strength feat.
NEW LS AND AP SCALING PROPOSAL
Since treating the realms as universes lines up more accurately with the author’s intent, I’m proposing we use the ratings from the already CGM accepted calc (credit to Arc7kuroi). The calc relies on minimal assumptions and sticks to the default interpretation of the feat.
I’ve reorganized the existing results from arc's calc and breakdowns in a separate calc (the one we put in the bleach verse profiles) for clarity, and I also added the LS section since the original calc didn’t cover that so both AP and LS scaling are presented together.
I’m completely fine with Galaxy-level AP based off senna pushing back the realms and Universal LS based on the blanks generating an immense gravitational force to pull the dimensions for an hour into collision. The former approach has already been accepted by other CGM members, and pulling two realms with universal mass should logically equal at least twice the mass of the observable universe, especially since that’s currently what we consider the size of the realms per Senjumaru’s calc.
Final Results
Attack Potency: Galaxy level — 3.7 yottafoe
Lifting Strength: Universal — 3 × 10^53 kg (≈ 2× observable universe )
IS THE FEAT CONSISTENT?
Bleach already has other cosmic-level feats, including 4-B (Solar System level) and 4-A (Multi-Solar System level). So a 3-C (Galaxy level) feat (which naturally comes after 4-A) fits perfectly into the established power progression and shouldn’t be treated as an outlier. It’s a reasonable jump in tier and helps reinforce overall scaling consistency.
Senjumaru’s 4-B feat is just a casual reiatsu flex, which implies her actual combat output should be far higher especially considering Squad Zero’s narrative portrayal. We’re explicitly told that Squad Zero can’t all go all-out at the same time because their combined reiatsu could seriously damage or even destroy all three realms. That alone supports them being in Senna’s range when she’s empowered by the Blanks.
Consistency also shows up with Uryu (who is physically relative to senjumaru) both of his fights with Ichigo portray him as relative. And no, that doesn’t mean Ichigo was mentally nerfed, especially in their second fight. By then, he had his true Zanpakuto, accepted it, and wasn’t held back by self-doubt anymore.
Characters who only scale above Gremmy’s 4-A feat should not scale to this, since they have no direct connection to Senna or the Blank-based scaling. Still, the 4-A feat helps reinforce that the verse already has multiple high-tier cosmological benchmarks, making the 3-C result feel completely natural rather than an outlier.
With that established, the following characters would scale to the feat:
- Senna with her blanks
- Soul king adyneus
- Ichigo (dangai training/ post true zanpakuto)
- Yhwach (post 9 years training)
- Aizen (post hygoku evolution)
- Kenpachi (cyfow)
- Hikone (cyfow)
- Ikomikomodoe (cyfow)
- Ginjou (cyfow)
- Uryu (awakened)
- Senjumaru (full power)
- Ichibei
- The rest of squad zero (full power)
- Renji (post royal palace training)
First off, one obvious effect of higher reiatsu is increased downward pressure, which translates directly into LS. We see this early on when Yamamoto’s reiatsu overwhelms Nanao: she’s physically crushed by the pressure while Shunsui and Ukitake can still stand because their reiatsu protects them effectively raising their LS to match Yamamoto’s spiritual pressure.
It’s also repeatedly established that you have to train your body to withstand your own reiatsu, or your body will be physically harmed by it. TYBW gives us an extreme example where Kenpachi’s reiatsu snaps his arms off because his body couldn’t handle the power. That shows the same principle in reverse: raw reiatsu that exceeds bodily durability causes physical rupture.
To drive the point home, during the Arrancar arc Ichigo is sealed with Bakudō 75 — Gochū Tekkan — which uses five metal bars to restrain him. When Ichigo’s reiatsu surges under Hollow influence, the metal cracks and eventually breaks in response. That demonstrates a causal link: higher reiatsu → greater force exerted on the environment → higher effective LS.
Taken together, these examples support the conclusion that significant reiatsu increases should correspond to higher LS. Therefore, characters with large reiatsu surges should logically have LS at or above the level demonstrated by Senna’s Blanks.
Now to the important part: I’ll justify why the proposed characters scale to this feat. Please read the next section carefully before commenting.
SENNA:
Starting with the obvious is senna who scales because she’s the one who manipulates the blanks. However, her power comes from the Blanks, not her own physical capabilities. So she only scales while empowered by them. To be clear, Senna does not physically scale to the LS herself, since the strength comes from an external source. She’s the only character on this list where that distinction applies.
SOUL KING ADYNEUS:
As the lynchpin of the worlds, he should naturally be superior to Senna (same reasoning used for his AP scaling)
ICHIGO:
As a Soul King candidate, Ichigo possesses more reiatsu than the weakened Reio, who served as the lynchpin of the worlds—so he would naturally scale.
Pre–time skip Ichigo scales after Dangai training, since he becomes physically superior to 4th Evolution Aizen, who is stated to surpass the Soul King. Post–time skip Ichigo scales after passing the Soul King test, making him comparable to the Soul King, and he should be even higher when using Bankai and Hollowfication.
This does not include Fullbring Ichigo so he wouldn’t scale.
YHWACH
Post 9 years strength would scale, clashed with true shikai ichigo and physically dominated him multiple times, telekinetically holding off Ichigo's clash. This should also extend to his quincy restraining techniques as well, higher after he absorbed reio (should be far superior to the weakened soul king).
AIZEN:
Post 3rd evolution, (was going to replace reio as the lynchpin with the hygoku) higher in later evolutions (stated to surpass reio), even higher after muken (Urahara comments the gravitational force of his hado 90 has gotten stronger after his fight with Ichigo) this LS would extend to his kido abilities as well.
CYFOW:
Characters like Hikone would scale since they’re also Soul King candidates meaning they were intended to replace the Soul King as the lynchpin. Ikomikidomoe (after consuming the Soul King fragments) and Kenpachi are physically superior to Hikone, so their LS would scale above his. This is supported by Kenpachi physically matching Hikone during their fight. As for Ginjou, his power level is very inconsistent only rising due to his emotions so i am fine with a possibly rating since he still meets the requirements of being a soul king.
URYU:
Now for the most important character as he is essentially the link between the soul king tier characters (i.e Ichigo) and squad zero level characters (senjumaru) since he fought both in relative settings. I will list the following reasons why he scales;
It is worth noting, that squad Zero’s full power most likely scales above senna's feat as the full power of 4 squad zero members can cause serious damage to the cosmology potentially even more so than senna's blanks. The 4B feat comes from a casual flex of reaistu alone that causes solar system level vibrations across the verse. Tenjiro even tells her not to overdo it as even the complications of her power can cause serious damage to the three worlds suggesting a comparable reiatsu levels to senna. The same senjumaru is defeated by uryu in a battle which should put him in the same ball park.In Addition, uryu physically clashes with Ichigo multiple times, they clash shoulder to shoulder in the first fight, uryu stops a downward decent strike from ichigo in the second fight, the two engage in a LS battle for a couple of seconds before uryu pushes Ichigo back with seele, they clash again and uryu pushes Ichigo downwards (albeit, Ichigo’s pseudo flight ability is compromised here but he doesn't manage to push uryu back despite ascending towards him with considerable force. Furthermore, Ichigo had to result in a distraction to shoulder check an off-guard uryu to physically overpower him meaning success in a direct physical confrontation is nigh negligible.It's also worth noting that Ichigo concedes his help alone to fight jugram. Meaning at bare minimum considers uryu to be very close to him to join him.
SENJUMARU:
Physically restrained awakened uryu with her fabric, so that uryu had to use antithesis to escape so she would scale at her full power.
OTHER SQUAD ZERO MEMBERS:
The likes of Oetsu, Tenjiro and hikifune would scale to full power senjumaru at their full power
ICHIBEI:
Would automatically scale as he is stronger than the rest of the squad zero members at their full power, would extend to his kido as well
RENJI:
Now for my goat, he is physically shown to be superior to uryu's LS multiple times in their fight, with uryu implying he didn't hold back;
Unleashes a downward decent strike that uryu had to strengthen his bow to block with the resulting force causing shock waves.The shockwaves from his baboon arm generate enough force to send uryu (who is at a very far distance) flyingGrabs and restrains uryu with his snake mouth for a punchHolds volstanding uryu in place with hihi tensho
OVERALL CONCLUSION
With the evidence, scans, and explanations presented, there’s more than enough support to remove the old calc, apply the new one, and accept the proposed scaling for the listed characters. If Cour 4 or any future Bleach material introduces contradictions to my proposed scaling, I or someone else will make a downgrade CRT and adjust the ratings accordingly. But that doesn’t mean outdated or invalid ratings should stay in place now.
I’ve also addressed the major concerns from the previous CRT, but if anyone has questions, disagreements, or additional info to contribute, feel free to tag me in the comments.
Hope you enjoyed the read!
AGREE: @Infinite9Luck (AP, neutral on LS), @Ralp0054 (AP, neutral on LS), @Lloydblitzed (AP and LS) @Adam1396 (AP, neutral on LS), @ItsMeat (AP and LS (possibly/likely rating)), (staff vote) (AP) @LephyrTheRevanchist (staff vote) (AP, neutral on LS) @Nierre (staff vote) (AP, neutral on LS) @Qawsedf234 (staff vote) (AP)
DISAGREE: @DavidTPPM (LS), @Qawsedf234 (staff vote) (LS)
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