Hasty12345
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Is there a particular reason Mihawk doesn't have "possibly" acoc aside from not showing it?
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One Piece General Discussion: Elbaph
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Currently there's no hint, so far as I'm aware, of him having Supreme King Haki.
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Zoro has it and is yet to surpass Mihawk
Mihawk and shanks are stated to be the strongest rivals in name and actuality.
I don’t think it’s fair to say there’s “no hint” of Mihawk having conquerors Haki.
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Neither of those work as pieces of evidence for it in my view. Mihawk's Armament could be >>> Zoro's Armament + Supreme King, or superior to Shanks. There'd be no way of knowing right now, so it's be presumptuous to say he has Supreme King Haki.
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I’m all for Mihawk slander, but I feel like this is straight up disingenuous. Zoro awoke his conquerors Haki against King with King noting Zoro’s kingly ambition. Mihawk achieved the very ambition that drove Zoro to that moment and that awakening.
Oda himself cites Mihawk alongside Shanks and Whitebeard as living legends.
Frankly, not giving Mihawk the benefit of a possibly rating is actually laughable in Clash of CoC Piece where every top tier and their pets have CoC haki.
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Yeah it would be really weird if not embarrassing if Mihawk never had any Advance Conqueror Haki, especially when its stated over and over that the strongest characters in the verse are show/stated to have such ability.
Roger, Whitebeard, Shanks, Rocks, Sengoku, Harald, Garp, Imu, Big Mom, Kaido and Luffy all have it.
Sure the Admirals don't have Advance CoC and are for the most potrayed as relative to Emperors, however they are more like the exception rather than the norm, beside Dracule isn't an admiral and you can still argue that while relative, there its still a gap between the two groups.
Roger, Whitebeard, Shanks, Rocks, Sengoku, Harald, Garp, Imu, Big Mom, Kaido and Luffy all have it.
Sure the Admirals don't have Advance CoC and are for the most potrayed as relative to Emperors, however they are more like the exception rather than the norm, beside Dracule isn't an admiral and you can still argue that while relative, there its still a gap between the two groups.
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It doesn't really matter; it's still not evidence even if you find it personally unbelievable that Mihawk wouldn't have Supreme King Haki.
I definitely think he'll be revealed to have it at some point. But based on the current evidence I can't say that he does.
I definitely think he'll be revealed to have it at some point. But based on the current evidence I can't say that he does.
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The admirals have insanely overpowered devil fruits to make up for it, they’re not quite exceptions.
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Here's Kizaru hurting Gear 5 Luffy using one of his clones
That's funny, that's not what Kuzan was saying during the fight itself.
Kuzan was obviously refusing to take credit due to further his hidden reason for joining up with Blackbeard's crew.
Has nothing to do with off guard...
Even when he was on guard he still couldn't do anything... Thats just insane cope
Like this changes the fact that Shanks still attacked while Greenbull was off-guard
Was it really a greater feat for WB since not only did Akainu easily survive his sneak attack, WB failed to save Ace because of Akainu and shortly died himself, which Akainu contributed a lot to?
The panel is showing them fighting evenly. Thanks for continue show how right I am about you lol.
Nope, you were the one who ignored that first since you were the one who brought up Old Garp vs. Kuzan, the same with Sickbeard vs. Akainu, so I don't wanna hear that "they're weakened" crap just because I proved you wrong.
Cope, it was equal.
Nope, I showed instance after instance of an Admiral and Yonko tier character fighting equally. You just didn't like it and now suddenly care about how weaken Garp and Whitebeard are
That's not what I did. I addressed the statements, you just didn't like my response.
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All right, this has gone on far enough though. It's not even that serious MOL lol.
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Conquerors Haki can’t be guarded against, it works based on power differences and overwhelming spirit. And what’s this crap about Greebull not being on guard anyway, he was in his logia form ready to attack?Like this changes the fact that Shanks still attacked while Greenbull was off-guard
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Oh boy, it's time for the daily, "Shanks vs Mihawk" debate!
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everytime
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Most Emperors also have overpowered devil fruits too along with Advance CoC, yet between all of them only Whitebeard can be consider equal to Hakimen like Roger, Garp and Rocks, meaning devil fruits can only help you up to a point.
Mihawk doesn't have any overpower devil fruit and despite that he its treated as at least equal to Shanks, all this heavely imply that he must have Advance CoC.
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Nah, that's footage of me when the neighbors are noisy as hell day n' nightMoL when he goes outside and sees someone wearing a Mihawk shirt:
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Ohh shit that might be me thenNah, that's footage of me when the neighbors are noisy as hell day n' night
Whenever I laugh I start clapping insanely loudly sometimes
or bang on my desk ayy life is life 
life enjoy
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It definitely is serious both to you and to me, but I believe you have a different mindset when it comes to things
I see the destruction in those words, it being serious or not doesn’t matter at that point
saying it just so you know where I’m coming from
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No, this was never THAT serious to me.
I see the destruction in those words, it being serious or not doesn’t matter at that point
Well, you kept proving you are what I said you were in our back and forth! That was your fault, not mine lol
But with that said, I don't feel that way about all of your takes. You've said plenty of stuff that I've agreed with and clicked the like button on.
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As far as Mihawk having ACoC goes, Mihawk's former long-time rival Shanks had ACoC before they even started fighting and his current rival/pupil Zoro awakened ACoC because of his ambition to beat Mihawk. The reveal is definitely coming, we just have to be patient like were for Garp's ACoC reveal.
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Personally, I don't care what other people call it. While I do have certain questions for Saul, I'm ultimately glad Saul survived the Ohara Incident and Robin lived long enough to reunite with him. I've enjoyed their interactions in Elbaph so far.
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MONKEY, YOU... AAAAAAAHHHHH!Ohh shit that might be me then
Whenever I laugh I start clapping insanely loudly sometimes
I think there was a little room for his comeback considering the technique Aokiji used on Saul (Ice Time Capsule) sounded like those sci-fi devices used to preserve living being/objects for long periods of time.
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Also the explosion thawed him out in time.MONKEY, YOU... AAAAAAAHHHHH!
I think there was a little room for his comeback considering the technique Aokiji used on Saul (Ice Time Capsule) sounded like those sci-fi devices used to preserve living being/objects for long periods of time.
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Well, I don't think we have ever seen Kuzan kill anyone with his freezing.
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Hey OP-heads, are these edits to King's AP and Sakazuki's AP legit?
If so, I might clean up some grammar. If not, I'll just roll them back.
If so, I might clean up some grammar. If not, I'll just roll them back.
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These seem to just be additional justifications
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It definitely is serious both to you and to me, but I believe you have a different mindset when it comes to things
I see the destruction in those words, it being serious or not doesn’t matter at that point
That is not what I meant. I don't mean you and me were serious on discussing One Piece characters... It is what you say personally that I view as serious
This is what I truly meant when I said that
That's all
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It’s from this, I believe
As it’s off panel and akainu didn’t actually end up killing anyone of the commanders, it’s not actually legit
His haki alone makes him be able to continue staying intangible, so it doesn’t have to be an ap thing aswell
And with Marco (one of the commanders) being able to block one of his hits by himself
It also invalidates that justification
Idk about king tho, someone else might be able to give their input about that
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"Hey, man, it's not a big deal, I agree eith some of your takes and disagree with-"
"You are a liar and will burn for eternity
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MoL is a cartoon character"Hey, man, it's not a big deal, I agree eith some of your takes and disagree with-"
"You are a liar and will burn for eternity
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Pretty sure he's just saying that he considers being called a liar a serious accusation because of his religious views."You are a liar and will burn for eternity
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Nah, bro accused his opponent of "being evil, lying, gaslighting, vilifying" immediately before, it's Daffy Duck shit.
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Anyway! What do you guys think the new chapter will be about this week?
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yes
Yes, those are serious stuff I brought up based on them telling me I'm a liar and don't like the truth... That's why I said this after
It definitely is serious both to you and to me, but I believe you have a different mindset when it comes to things
I see the destruction in those words, it being serious or not doesn’t matter at that point
Stop twisting what I said"Hey, man, it's not a big deal, I agree eith some of your takes and disagree with-"
"You are a liar and will burn for eternity
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That's true, but the simple fact that he look at his ennemies as "suicidals" while being far more than outnumbered is a good additional feat imo bc he already fought Marco and Vista, like you quote.It’s from this, I believe
As it’s off panel and akainu didn’t actually end up killing anyone of the commanders, it’s not actually legit
His haki alone makes him be able to continue staying intangible, so it doesn’t have to be an ap thing aswell
And with Marco (one of the commanders) being able to block one of his hits by himself
It also invalidates that justification
Idk about king tho, someone else might be able to give their input about that
Yeah Marco can only block and hit the Admirals without damaging them
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Roger escapes the island and goes "Whew, glad we made it out in one piece," and then Bullet shows up and goes "say that again."
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You'd have to prove it's an attack potency thing he's talking about and not because of his haki/abilities, and even then he could also mean that staying to defend strawhat and not escaping is what akainu is considering as suicidal (Continuing to stay on enemy territory)... Nothing really points it as an ap justification for Akainu especially when Marco alone was shown capable of blocking his ap
