I think it’s because the amount of variables, like how we don’t know how that destruction would happen (eh). Although I feel there isn’t as many variables as one would think, because I don’t know how Morrigan (given the order we know of from Resurrection) would destroy herself and then Makai if an explosion doesn’t happen from her self destruction (hell even the Udon Comics interpret it that way, but that’s not canon)
So they going with Composite Morrigan, will have to check it out.
Yeah, wasn't expecting composite, but that's neat. There are a few other things not mentioned in the blog (potentially Tier 1 arguments, but Morrigan does not win regardless, Nasuverse got 8D stuff) but the research is amazing. Even the Darkstalkers Resurrection stuff is mentioned
Tier 1 Darksralkers? What are those arguments?
Ofc.
This reminds me, where exactly did Capcom state that nothing is Canon except the game and the guidebooks. Ignoring Udon comics ofc.
I sent them in the Death Battle thread here, but take them as you will.
I don't remember if that was a thing, but some of the other media (like the OVA) have weird inconsistences with the lore iirc, that's probably why we only use the games and guidebooks.
Ok, I will check it out.
Yeah, even I couldn't find a proper source for that. Even the wiki doesn't make any citations other than simply statement.
Yeah OVA and UDON do tend to have issues, but I was wondering if we could use stuff from the Mangas?
I'm not sure on the manga (I haven't actually read them), but I do know they have some extra stuff.
Well that looks at the very least Tier 2 due to being a different space time from normal universe.
That's kinda why I was thinking Makai was potentially Tier 1 cuz of the space transcending time and it being implied to be a higher world, but I see what you're saying. I'll probably look more into the Japanese stuff and see what I can find. I'm not sure on Acausality.
I mean we can have a lot of separate continuities like the Manga version, the UDON comics, and the American and the OVA.
Donovan and Hsien-Ko somehow survive being at the epicenter of a Huitzil onslaught, as a platoon of them fire towards a shack/village to raze it to ground, triggering colossal explosions, and they just survive without explanation, implying durability.
Agreed
Then Pyron gets 3-C all across? This will buff Demitri given he canonically beat him
That’s assuming we even keep Pyron at 2x baseline 3-C (or the 400,000 light years size thing) which is unlikely. But if we do, it’d probably buff the rest of the top tiers as well.
I dont see why not, you get AP from size alone, many characters do
Honestly i would view this different, Pyron is twice 3-C due to his size, Demitri beat him, meaning he is himself on the same level, with him absorbed it would be four times 3-C, rather then try to downscale in splits like that, that my take on it
Pyron’s actual size is left very ambiguous in stuff like the Complete Works though, he could go up to the size of a universe for all we know.
I was more so ignoring the 3-C stuff, but yes, it would be something like that if we keep it (that’s what I was getting at with “it’d probably buff the rest of the top tiers as well.”)
We are told in 2 different guides his size is twice the milky way generally, even if he can be bigger, thats a stated size for fair minimum we know of
I pointed that method of scaling because Pyron isnt baseline 3-C and honestly splitting between tiers like that is horrible, just give the one who isnt scaling to the whole thing an at most rating for that if anything
What’s the second one? I know of the first one which is this. That guide kinda has its own issues, from what I recall it gave characters like Morrigan stuff that isn’t even in the actual games, like how the bats she has can be used to form a laser cannon, that only exists in MVC as far as I know
I didn’t say Pyron was baseline tbf. Also I don’t see the problem with dividing it by 2 if they were 4-A, because Majigen (and where the rest of the top tiers would scale if 3-C isn’t valid) is scaled at Starry Sky level.
In the graphic files, says he spans 400K light years
Well its just its not a good option at times, Soul Calibur did that over and over halving characters who needed help
Ehhh, I’m not sure. I mean I guess if you wanna argue because the orbital path surrounds him, that he scales to it in size, but you can probably still have that without him scaling to the size of it. Although Pyron in his ending did have have planets orbiting his fingers (is that even related to his orbital path? It could be, given there are two other planets for some reason but I’m not sure)
In this case, that’s not what’s happening though so it’s probably okay.
Bruh, I didn't want to know about that fact alright?.
I don’t think any of us did…
If only the 34th rule of the internet can be abolished.
Do you plan to make one or more CRTs for this?
For the 2nd and 3rd ones, it'll just be one CRT, shouldn't be too crazy. The first one I wanna look into much more before even deciding to make the thread for it (Tier 1, even for just Low 1-C, is a crazy tier)
I’m not sure. I think right now it’s probably okay as is imo
For Pyron's Lightspeed, there's no proof that it scales with his combat speed, and if it doesn't, it only scales with his travel speed as explained on the speed page:
Besides, you can at least provide Acausality Type 4 and probably resistance to Physics Manipulation with that.
I think this is fair. But if I recall, I remember reading something about Pyron being able to destroy two to three planets within minutes if he’s serious. Which going at light speed from Earth to just one planet would take a few minutes as far I know. I need to get that translated, but I remember it in All About Vampire Hunter (
I guess? Not sure about the others given characters like B.B Hood are just fine in areas like Majigen (although we don’t know the laws and stuff of Majigen so who knows)
