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Final Fantasy 16 discussion thread

Well their scaling and research is different to ours so what we do for both verses over here won't mean much for them, they sometimes borrow calcs from us but that's about it.
Fair enough. Guess it just feels like a weird match to me even though I love both characters
 
I remember their Death Battle Cast of Eren vs Clive they did, they actually complained that there weren't vs wiki profiles yet for them to look at for an idea of ratings and abilities
lmao that's pretty funny. Granted they don't do serious research for the casts like they do actual episodes but still lol.
 
Need a refresher but the echoes of the fallen DLC / fight with Omega happens after Clive and Joshua fought Ultima in the rift right? Working on the Ultima sandbox again and was wondering if I should change his Low 2-C rating to a 2-C one (Maybe as a possibly to play it safe?) based on Omega constricting creation likely including the rift given Joshua would know it exists.
 
Need a refresher but the echoes of the fallen DLC / fight with Omega happens after Clive and Joshua fought Ultima in the rift right
Yes it happens basically after everything aside from the final Ultima fight yet right before Rising Tide
Working on the Ultima sandbox again and was wondering if I should change his Low 2-C rating to a 2-C one (Maybe as a possibly to play it safe?) based on Omega constricting creation likely including the rift given Joshua would know it exists
Could be "low 2-C, likey 2-C" to be safe
 
This is officially everything we have as of now for profiles

Characters and Abilities:
Magik and Dominants:

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:Dust_Collector/Sandbox6
Dion/Bahamut
Ultima
Barnabas
Calculations:
bumping all of these
 


What are your thoughts on this, apparently conceptual level destruction, global time freeze, multiveral plus level speed for Clive?
 
Hypersonic+ speed
Multiversal+ Reality Warping

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I just saw the reveal of new Dissidia game and...
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^I hope Odin and Ifrit slash and burn the game into the ground.

*Another mobile game? Check!
*Gacha and Mircotransactions? Check!
*Another Tokyo centred isekai? Check!
*More forced 3v3 combat? Check!
*No ports/remasters of the PSP games? CHECKMATE!!!

Also having legitimately great artwork and illustrations that you physically can't own is just foul.
 
@The_Axiom_of_Virgo It's Squeenix, I'm not even surprised they're not even trying to do a return to form for Dissidia.

I remember their Death Battle Cast of Eren vs Clive they did, they actually complained that there weren't vs wiki profiles yet for them to look at for an idea of ratings and abilities
@Dalesean027 Funny you mention that, cause I remember Liam had to use our pages when doing Dante vs Kratos, Alucard vs D, and Noel vs Kiana in their podcasts.
 
I just saw the reveal of new Dissidia game and...
giphy.gif

^I hope Odin and Ifrit slash and burn the game into the ground.

*Another mobile game? Check!
*Gacha and Mircotransactions? Check!
*Another Tokyo centred isekai? Check!
*More forced 3v3 combat? Check!
*No ports/remasters of the PSP games? CHECKMATE!!!

Also having legitimately great artwork and illustrations that you physically can't own is just foul.
Gacha slop is ok as long as it's gacha slop I like
 
bumping all of these
Looking at that video you posted in the other thread.
What is meant to be happening in regards to it being a speed feat?
Is ultima moving to space, or perhaps creating a universe/large amount of space/pocket realm or maybe just exploding energy around his surroundings?
It confuses me lol.
At 31:05. I don't know how to timestamp stuff.
 
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Looking at that video you posted in the other thread.
What is meant to be happening in regards to it being a speed feat?
Its not really a valid speed feat in my personal opinion but what I said in the other thread is that death battle will likely treat this as a speed feat for warping his space time
 
i dont like how the charcter desgins look at all and the remixes in it sound awful.
I wasn't gonna say anything about this since it's a teaser but it suspiciously looks like they repurposed many of the assets of that failed KH mobile game (Missing Link) and put a FF paint job on it. Hence why it looks off.
Gacha slop is ok as long as it's gacha slop I like
I mean more power to you, personally if I had my way all gacha slop would end up in the Void and I truly believe humanity would be better off as a result.
@The_Axiom_of_Virgo It's Squeenix, I'm not even surprised they're not even trying to do a return to form
Still reminds me of the days where Squeenix stubbornly refuse to allow Sony or Nintendo to localize their games and thus forcing players in the West to wait upto three years after the Japanese release.
 
I mean yeah, don't get me wrong I love Clive but...surely there was someone more fitting to fight Dante right? While a lot of the stuff for XVI is already done, no profiles have been published yet and there's a lore book on the way, on top of FF as a whole still undergoing major revamping. Plus with DMC's revisions still going on...just feels like Dante should have gone against someone else. Like maybe have a runback with Bayo now that DMC5 and Bayo 3 + Cereza & The Lost Demon are a thing, or hell maybe do Dante vs Alucard (Castlevania)
Death Battle doesn't revolve around VSBW despite them using this site's research
 
I mean yeah, don't get me wrong I love Clive but...surely there was someone more fitting to fight Dante right? While a lot of the stuff for XVI is already done, no profiles have been published yet and there's a lore book on the way, on top of FF as a whole still undergoing major revamping. Plus with DMC's revisions still going on...just feels like Dante should have gone against someone else. Like maybe have a runback with Bayo now that DMC5 and Bayo 3 + Cereza & The Lost Demon are a thing, or hell maybe do Dante vs Alucard (Castlevania)
Clive is an extremely thematic matchup for Dante for how it tackles their attachment to humanity as their greatest strength and how they learn to see their inherited demon form as an important part of themselves and not just a curse
They have a lot of smaller connections too but the core theme is strong and play into the most important part of their character arcs
The visual and dynamic appeal is also obvious, the fight potential is crazy
 
Clive is an extremely thematic matchup for Dante for how it tackles their attachment to humanity as their greatest strength and how they learn to see their inherited demon form as an important part of themselves and not just a curse
They have a lot of smaller connections too but the core theme is strong and play into the most important part of their character arcs
The visual and dynamic appeal is also obvious, the fight potential is crazy
Let me guess, one of those connections is "brother issues" right?
 
Let me guess, one of those connections is "brother issues" right?
They gone through an episode of being tragically separated from their brothers whom they cared about deeply and had a close bond with, feeling a great sense of guilt of not being able to save them as they believed they were dead at one point in time, but would end up reuniting with them where they turned up alive and after sometime they would reconcile their relationships with them

Sure there's a clear contrast between Joshua and Vergil (which makes this connection more interesting imo), but this also informs the future of the character arcs
 
Rooting for Clive, betting on Dante. I can’t see them bringing back Dante just to have DMC lose to FF again. Though on another hand, them having Kratos and Dante return just to beat the less popular character would be a bit disappointing too.
 
Does Clive have any way of getting past Dante's mid godly regeneration?
Even if DB gives it to Dante, they went with it being tied to his stamina so It's limited.

For person that might be doing Clive's profile. Would you be giving him most of Ultima's abilities as it seems like he fully absorbs Ultima at the end?

In the context of DB, if that is the case, and DB goes with it. Then Clive would likely take abilities, versatility and hax as Ultima has a shit ton of moves.
 
I don't think DB will be giving him all of Ultimas abilities (Unless they assume the eikon powers he gets gifted just before the final battle gave Clive all of Ultimas magic instead of just a portion), Clive only absorbs Ultima during the last cutscene of the game and admits he isn't a strong enough vessel to contain all his power before using it all up in one go like 2 minutes later to get of magic and likely end up killing himself in the progress.

I'd be surprised if they took that into account for the match and gave him all of Ultimas stuff. But eh who knows, sometimes DB gets really whacky and do things they shouldn't lol.
 
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