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Kai Chisaki (Overhaul) Vs Ken Kaneki THE FINALE (My Hero Academia Vs Tokyo Ghoul) [16-27-0]

NikHelton said:
Well, I wanted to start by saying that Chisaki's analytical prediction isn't as good as I thought.

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Starting with the fact that Lemillion is able to land a direct hit on him using a feint, and then dodge his lunge.

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Based on the entire fight, I can tell that while Lemillion is faster, it's not even a 2x difference; it's quite relative. However, Lemillion reads Kai's movements quite easily and then dodges all of his spike attacks for five minutes. Please note that these are the same spikes "a hundred meters long" (apparently not) that exceed his speed. But a character with relative speed can remain undetected for some time without instinctive reactions, heightened senses, accelerated reactions, or speed amp. This suggests that the spike attacks are far from as flexible as one might think, and their speed isn't at blitz level.

Let's continue with the fact that Chisaki is vulnerable to surprise attacks (even though the trio's appearance was quite loud, giving him plenty of time to react), and in such moments, he prefers to block rather than try to catch his opponent with his hand.

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All this against opponents who rely on analytical prediction. Yes, Nighteye can see the future, but I absolutely don't understand why Cas is talking about how incredible this ability is in the context of seeing years into the future when this character doesn't use it. He can see a few seconds into the future, and with this ability, he only evaded direct attacks and swings, but when it came to formless spamy attacks, it was beyond his capabilities. Needless to say, something like this is typical for Tokyo Ghoul?
The fact that Chisaki's attacks aren't as flexible as a kagune is supported by the fact that when he misses, Kai doesn't try to hit Eri further, although if he could, he would have only needed to extend and change the direction of his spikes to injure her. At that time, the kagune and quinque could move freely along any trajectory, as if they were an extension of your arm, and dodging an attack meant nothing.

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Has Chisaki ever fought anything like that? No. However, he was outclassed by opponents who were capable of fighting something less predictable.
Meanwhile, as I've already mentioned in the arguments above, Kaneki surpasses those who can fight and catch opponents who surpass them in speed at the level of teleportation. He completely surpasses Koma, who can maneuver and stop sudden attacks that exceed his speed and dodge hundreds of donmaku shots that fill the room and surpass him in speed, without having a point of support.

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Kaneki's analytical prediction, even in this regard, is already above.

If we talk more about the kagune, Kaneki doesn't even need time to change its shape and disintegrate. All this happens intuitively and is controlled by willpower. When attempting a block, he can instantly wrap himself around Chisaki's arms, as he did against Arima, who was overwhelming him with his skill at the time. Or simply restrain him with new tendrils, as he did with Kanae. Kagune's functionality is quite extensive.

He can disintegrate him during an attack every time, and his accelerated perception prevents Chisaki from catching him with his touch. He will literally see him slowed down even in his base form. Every time Chisaki tries to grab the kagune or Kaneki, he will be left empty-handed.

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His kakuja form greatly enhances all stats, including reaction and perception. As I mentioned above, his kakuja blitzes the opponent who uses Blitz Amp, giving them a speed boost comparable to teleportation, even though Kaneki's perception is already accelerated at the time. That is, kakuja perception > kakuja speed >> Arata Amon's speed who suppressed Kaneki's perception, even when it was accelerated >>>> Kaneki's accelerated perception > his speed.

The difference in speed, analytical prediction, LS, kagune overwhelming basic analytical prediction will probably make Kaneki untouchable, and considering that kakuja gives one-shot amp, it will end very quickly.
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Currently voting Kaneki based on this.
 
I'll vote for Kaneki. He seems way more versatile, and has a lot of abilities to get around AOE spike attacks. The only thing Overhaul has going for him are the quirk-erasing bullets, and while they would definitely work on Kaneki, they'd be pretty situational and I don't see this Kaneki getting hit by them. Overall, Kaneki just dismantles him the second he gets close.
 
Looks like Kaneki's AD is beyond the manga, lol

He has much more options for neutralizing the enemy and is ideal for bypassing Overhaul.
Although I'm really surprised that Chisaki's ability is active and that Kaneki can cut through his palm at lightning speed.
Right now it's more like an incon, but I think Kaneki should win this match with extreme diff.
 
NikHelton said:
Well, I wanted to start by saying that Chisaki's analytical prediction isn't as good as I thought.

GIF_20251031_213547_289.gif


Starting with the fact that Lemillion is able to land a direct hit on him using a feint, and then dodge his lunge.

GIF_20251031_213629_465.gif



Based on the entire fight, I can tell that while Lemillion is faster, it's not even a 2x difference; it's quite relative. However, Lemillion reads Kai's movements quite easily and then dodges all of his spike attacks for five minutes. Please note that these are the same spikes "a hundred meters long" (apparently not) that exceed his speed. But a character with relative speed can remain undetected for some time without instinctive reactions, heightened senses, accelerated reactions, or speed amp. This suggests that the spike attacks are far from as flexible as one might think, and their speed isn't at blitz level.

Let's continue with the fact that Chisaki is vulnerable to surprise attacks (even though the trio's appearance was quite loud, giving him plenty of time to react), and in such moments, he prefers to block rather than try to catch his opponent with his hand.

GIF_20251031_213819_322.gif


All this against opponents who rely on analytical prediction. Yes, Nighteye can see the future, but I absolutely don't understand why Cas is talking about how incredible this ability is in the context of seeing years into the future when this character doesn't use it. He can see a few seconds into the future, and with this ability, he only evaded direct attacks and swings, but when it came to formless spamy attacks, it was beyond his capabilities. Needless to say, something like this is typical for Tokyo Ghoul?
The fact that Chisaki's attacks aren't as flexible as a kagune is supported by the fact that when he misses, Kai doesn't try to hit Eri further, although if he could, he would have only needed to extend and change the direction of his spikes to injure her. At that time, the kagune and quinque could move freely along any trajectory, as if they were an extension of your arm, and dodging an attack meant nothing.

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Has Chisaki ever fought anything like that? No. However, he was outclassed by opponents who were capable of fighting something less predictable.
Meanwhile, as I've already mentioned in the arguments above, Kaneki surpasses those who can fight and catch opponents who surpass them in speed at the level of teleportation. He completely surpasses Koma, who can maneuver and stop sudden attacks that exceed his speed and dodge hundreds of donmaku shots that fill the room and surpass him in speed, without having a point of support.

doc323819863_690912450


Kaneki's analytical prediction, even in this regard, is already above.

If we talk more about the kagune, Kaneki doesn't even need time to change its shape and disintegrate. All this happens intuitively and is controlled by willpower. When attempting a block, he can instantly wrap himself around Chisaki's arms, as he did against Arima, who was overwhelming him with his skill at the time. Or simply restrain him with new tendrils, as he did with Kanae. Kagune's functionality is quite extensive.

He can disintegrate him during an attack every time, and his accelerated perception prevents Chisaki from catching him with his touch. He will literally see him slowed down even in his base form. Every time Chisaki tries to grab the kagune or Kaneki, he will be left empty-handed.

GIF_20251014_014128_977.gif


His kakuja form greatly enhances all stats, including reaction and perception. As I mentioned above, his kakuja blitzes the opponent who uses Blitz Amp, giving them a speed boost comparable to teleportation, even though Kaneki's perception is already accelerated at the time. That is, kakuja perception > kakuja speed >> Arata Amon's speed who suppressed Kaneki's perception, even when it was accelerated >>>> Kaneki's accelerated perception > his speed.

The difference in speed, analytical prediction, LS, kagune overwhelming basic analytical prediction will probably make Kaneki untouchable, and considering that kakuja gives one-shot amp, it will end very quickly.
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change my vote to Kaneki FRA
 
Yeah, after taking time reading the thread (like honestly why 7 pages? this shit didn't need to be that long) I guess I'll go with Kaneki too fra
 
Mommyleona said:
Пусть всё будет, как решит монолог твоей души~
Lonely, lonely, I guess I'm lonely
Ты Венера, я Земля, Ева, я любила тебяяя

Why is this thread so long😭, make it longer :devilish:
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u know Russian???
 
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