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"You haven't even proven you're the strongest in hell" prolly just means that Al has been gatekeeping that role, and Vox just never really wanted to get into **** with the other overlords
It does in AL vs Adam
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Simple: funky animation. Similar to how he got his wound and still got his jacked perfectly fine several seconds later, even though the wound remained, and on the other hand he had to go change his jacket entirely when Sir Pentious ripped off a small part of it. This is also the same guy who has Cloth Manipulation so…
Oh wait, I didn’t realize that was a freaking MAN standing between them and not some power. I thought he was talking about the guy laying or smth…
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Alastor literally has regeneration man...
Point is: you don't scale to something that tears through you.
Point is: you don't scale to something that tears through you.
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The link I gave directly says that soul deals are how it works, nothing really more add on.
I never said top of the food chain? I just said they aren't the weakest, which they aren't, they're surely on a mid-high level.
Obviously he's an outlier to the idea, but the fact his attained power made him be considered an overlord says something about how power-levels are related to hierarchy.
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One thing @Comiphorous is probably right on is that I gave little-to-no elaboration in OP regarding durability scaling, so I’ll do that, since it can actually be interpreted as “ripping flesh = durability scales”. Will do that tomorrow when I’ll have access to my PC.
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Why do you think I brought up axe argument? From small wound he still screams and has visible blood and damage, from his spine being ripped off he just keeps going on as if nothing happened.
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Small wound. Missed being killed by a hair. Riiiight...
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Funky animation or because they don't grow out of his spine. Is there any statements saying that they grow out of his spine? I don't remember any and if there isn't anything like that a better conclusion to come to is that they don't grow out of him in the first place.
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I already addressed this earlier in the thread. He “barely escaped from being killed by a hair”, aka being stomped by General cuz he is weakened! NOT “I nearly died by a hair to that wound”.
Aren’t you the one who said it grows out and breaks his flesh?
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Uhhh no. That's what you were proposing in the OP. I just humored the idea.
IF I DID unironically then that is a moment of stupidity on my part, as that clearly doesn't make any sense.
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Yeah? That's not me proposing the idea. That's you not explaining why he would scale and me making an assumption which you did not correct. I assumed since you didn't correct me that my interpretation was what you were going with.
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Ah, so your argument relies head and shoulders on a shaky interpretation that is only supported if you literally interperet like half a dozen other things this specific way, understood!
...yeah this is really ******* shaky.
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No? It relies on a wording. Which you just clowned upon instead of actually addressing, so it isn’t really good rebuttal.
What I was saying is that I will fix that since you are right on that it could’ve been interpreted like that. Not that you proposed the idea. I was kind of saying you were right. Not every single of my messages is necessarily against you.
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man the hell happened here
anyways
considering how close it is to the value (1.17) and the fact that Lucifer and Adam upscale the value according to their profiles, can't we upscale those two to Town+ (53 Kilotons)?
anyways
considering how close it is to the value (1.17) and the fact that Lucifer and Adam upscale the value according to their profiles, can't we upscale those two to Town+ (53 Kilotons)?
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I said “aren’t you the guy who proposed that?”
You said “no you did”.
I liked that comment and just directed to a comment where I concede that I indeed should have elaborated more onto that since it could suggest that, and will do that later.
What’s so confusing about this
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House of cards falls down when you remove one. In order for you to be correct here, you also need to be correct in several other areas, and I don't think you are. Also, it's no secret you do a lot of iffy things to try to make Alastor seem strong to the point where you tried to say that Alastor did regenerate from his wound by Adam and attempted to excuse the trailer as being some of the stuff he normally does in Demon form.
Put simply: When you're talking about Alastor, I automatically distrust you twice as much, and yes, same goes for the other side of this spectrum with Shion.
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We may be stupid. Together.I said “aren’t you the guy who proposed that?”
You said “no you did”.
I liked that comment and just directed to a comment where I concede that I indeed should have elaborated more onto that since it could suggest that, and will do that later.
What’s so confusing about this
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Barely escaped being killed by a hair isn't rocket science, clearly Al didnt double die, but Adam was still going to kill him on the next blow
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so uh, I kinda asked this earlier but what happened here?
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Insert the post kredits scene of Tip the Scales here
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I asked a clarifying question, now we got back to debating AP = physicals
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We're figuring out how we got here in the first place. Everyone's confused.
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You know that image of the lions screaming at eachother with them both thinking their opponent is a lazy monkey? That's everyone in this thread lol
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I'm the lazy monkey...
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I love monkeys
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If you remove one rule from maths or physics, everything will fall down as well.
This is not a great way to determine truth/correctness.
Mainly because of theories that suggest these green stitches are things he regenerated from past, e. g. bullet in his head one was confirmed IIRC, but not sure. Hence why I entertained the idea.
Also, simply because I did something that seemed iffy to you does not invalidate arguments themselves, that’d be ad hominem, wouldn’t it?
This wouldn’t allow you to dismiss my arguments just because of that tho. But if you wanna put me against extra-scruinity, this is fine. Just give the arguments and refute mine.
Also, I’m not that of Alastor glazer if I downgrade him in the same thread, am I?
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Im just here man...
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Not true, if you check my pfp I'm clearly a 6-dimensional deity arguing with inferior losers about powerscaling monkeys.
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7 pages… let’s make a challenge on the maximum amount of pages we can create by going back-and-forth on Alastor before staff comes here!
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I'm betting 15 pages.
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While we’re here, what do you think of the rest of the thread? Cuz you’ve been primarily arguing against Alastor (specifically AP/durability part) so…
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Basically this covers most of the other stuff you suggested;
I'm generally fine with everything besides the Adam/Alastor stuff.
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when the **** did Martha get a profile
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Indeed, it's frankly why I'm so tough on verses. If I accept something, it's because there's major support for it, hence why I believe Alastor's shadows can be At most 7-C but shut down everything else on Al scaling to Adam.
This ain't to say I've not been wrong before, but I try not to be completely lax for things.
Grouping these together: But no, I'm not invalidating your arguments, I'm just straight up doing more scrutiny because you've had what I view as shitakes before and thus I'm on alert for 'em. Admittedly this is like, double for anything Shion says(Tier 6 Frights Afton physically lol)
You absolutely are one. he has a 50/50 chance of not liking it though. Or not liking it very much. Calling someone an "Ace in the Hole" can mean like four different things including Alastor just being Aromantic not Asexual, or he could be Greyromantic or Greysexual. Or he can be any combination of the four. Thank you for coming to my TED talk.
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A day after this CRT was made lol
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People are idiots.
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Blow up the verse.
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