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No Economos or AdebayoBasically all of what Tracer said...also no Economos profile
Bro does qualify for one, otherwise great work
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DCU General Discussion Thread
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So season 2 Peacemaker isn't the same as the first season?
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Technically, no. Season 1 takes place in the DCEU, Season 2 takes place in the DCU. However, aside from some references and the Justice League cameo in the last episode, pretty much all of Season 1 is canon to the DCU.
Basically:
- DCU Peacemaker: Season 1 + Season 2
- DCEU Peacemaker: Only Season 1
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But why two different pages for peacemaker alone though?
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The other pages are only put in as DC Universe pages not DCEU ones, so if anyone wanted to do S1 only pages in the DCEU they could
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It wouldnāt be just Peacemaker? I said Vigilante and Judomaster would need new pages too.
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It honestly feels like one
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I have always hated that method of scaling characters from the words of people who should have no idea wtf they are talking about. Wog is the only reason I accept Sentry scaling that high.
"He is stronger than Avengers rolled into one" by what observation given that Thor is carrying the feats department and they didn't even happen on Earth.
"He is stronger than Avengers rolled into one" by what observation given that Thor is carrying the feats department and they didn't even happen on Earth.
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Right thread
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Also for Harcourt and Eagly, right?
So 9-B justifications cannot be used? Or can they?
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Well, Harcourt and Eagly donāt have existing DCEU pages like Peacemaker, Judomaster and Vigilante, so splitting them isnāt necessary unless you just want to.
And the 9-B justifications are fine, all I said was that Eagly should scale because heās the strongest 11th Street Kid and Bordeaux should fully scale since sheās comparable to Harcourt.
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But should the justifications be removed? For example, the one with the Glock at 12 years old is from a Season 1 episode. (Harcourt Marksmanship justification)
I'm referring to the Peacemaker, Judomaster, and Vigilante profiles.
- If they're kept, should they be the current justifications or something like "comparable to his DCEU version"?
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No, none of the Season 1 justifications should be removed. The events of Season 1 are almost entirely canon to the DCU, outside of a couple references and character mentions that donāt affect powerscaling.
Current justifications. Thereās no need to reference the DCEU pages when they scale to the same things.
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John Economos (DC Universe)
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Economos does carry a gun in his van as well so that should be noted in his standard equipmentJohn Economos (DC Universe)
Any missing feats? (I haven't seen Creature Commands yet, btw)Leota Adebayo (DC Universe)
At the age of 14, Ads managed to achieve a Binks-Fendelmire Strategic Combat Certification so she should at be above average
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John Economos (DC Universe)
Any missing feats? (I haven't seen Creature Commands yet, btw)Leota Adebayo (DC Universe)
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I also completely forgot but with all of these new profiles being made or changes we do want to update the intelligence sections to match out current wiki standards
We no longer list combat stuffs in the intelligence section or give an actual rating for combat intelligence, its instead now reserved to a skill section instead as per this thread
Basically the updated example would look like this
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We lowkey gotta fix this on the other DCU profiles too
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Their Street level+ stats should probably just be baseline Wall level (15 kilojoules) since theyāre downscaling from Peacemaker and Judomaster, who scale a good bit above baseline (30.81 kilojoules).John Economos (DC Universe)
Any missing feats? (I haven't seen Creature Commands yet, btw)Leota Adebayo (DC Universe)
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That would remove the "Genius Intelligence" Hax from the Economos, Judomaster and Peacemaker profiles, right?DCU
I also completely forgot but with all of these new profiles being made or changes we do want to update the intelligence sections to match out current wiki standards
We no longer list combat stuffs in the intelligence section or give an actual rating for combat intelligence, its instead now reserved to a skill section instead as per this thread
Basically the updated example would look like this
With a general intelligence and skill section being seperate things but skill has no named ratingDaReaperMan/Thrall
We lowkey gotta fix this on the other DCU profiles too
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No the Genius for economos isn't a combat intelligence thing so its fine to keep but for Peacemaker and Judo Master they will lose their ratings for combat and we instead switch their combat shit over to a seperate feat box
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Like general intelligence CAN be influenced by combat intelligence so like strategy, planning, etc. do double as general intelligence since it does require some level of smarts to do any of that.
"These factors can also influence a character's general intelligence rating. For example, skills like strategy, rapid learning or the ability to predict an opponent's moves could contribute to a high intelligence rating. However, for many characters, it's useful to separate combat skill from general intelligence. This distinction is particularly important when a character is highly skilled in combat but lacks academic or intellectual prowess."
so some can be used for general intelligence but otherwise all the skill shit needs to be its whole own thing with no named rating
"These factors can also influence a character's general intelligence rating. For example, skills like strategy, rapid learning or the ability to predict an opponent's moves could contribute to a high intelligence rating. However, for many characters, it's useful to separate combat skill from general intelligence. This distinction is particularly important when a character is highly skilled in combat but lacks academic or intellectual prowess."
so some can be used for general intelligence but otherwise all the skill shit needs to be its whole own thing with no named rating
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So Economos keeps it, but Judomaster loses it?
Peacemaker Weapons Skills should go to General or Combat?
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Yeah that's fine
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Yes since Economos's hacking isn't based on a combat intelligence, its a general intelligence and knowledge in computing thing.
Combat, general intelligence can be influenced by combat stuff but that's mostly just in regards to skills like strategy, rapid learning or the ability to predict an opponent's moves from sheer intelligence
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Langston Fleury (DC Universe)
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I disagree with scaling him to Bordeaux unless thereās an actual reason for it. Just being an A.R.G.U.S. agent doesnāt make him comparable to her, especially considering that sheās a cyborg.Guys, what do you think of this profile?Langston Fleury (DC Universe)
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Agree
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Do Task Force M characters have a profile yet? I kind of remember Flag Sr, the Bride and Phosphorus had blogs ready for them
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No, none of the commando creature characters have a profile yet.
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Phosphorus, Nina and Circe have sandboxes, I started one for the Bride that anyone is free to continue, and I donāt think Flag, Weasel, G.I. and Frankenstein have anything yet.
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Well Circe at least only lacks Lifting Strength and the blog will be complete I think
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Peacemaker S2 CRT
This CRT will cover the addition of Peacemaker character profiles to the DCU verse, and some minor changes. Minor Changes Bloodsport should get Superhuman Precision for being able to do this, and consequently Peacemaker too. Superman should have Sound Manipulation for for being able to whistle...
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Imo I think you should split the 11th Street Kids and Checkmate keys into two profiles, with one being a DCEU/Peacemaker season 1 team page and the other is the DCU one.I finished the last page of the Peacemaker S2 CRT, what needs to be changed?
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Since Peacemaker season 1 is almost entirely canon to the DCU, I think the profile should be kept as is. But a separate DCEU profile should be created for 11th Street Kids.
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So I guess the Sons of Liberty might reach 8-B with preparation, as in Peacemaker season 2 episode 3 (though I can't find a video of the statement in question) their "cefanalolol" bomb was supposedly capable of "blowing up the whole block". As there were nine cefenalolol explosives connected together, that would suggest that each individual explosive could be around 8-C+. Nobody could fully scale to these yields, though Peacemaker and Earth-X Harcourt survived one of the individual explosives detonating from several meters away.
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