Arrowverse CRT: Separate Black Canary’s profile and add a redirect for the Arrowverse

[ByArrow]

Black Canary's profile combines both the Earth 1 version and the Earth 2 version. But these two versions come from different universes, and since their power and skill levels are different, they need to be separated.

The profile name for Earth 2 will be “Black Canary (Laurel Lance) (Earth-2) (CW),” and since she was Black Siren before taking the name Black Canary, a redirect from Black Siren will be added.

Additionally, since another name for the Arrowverse is CWverse and CW is used as an abbreviation, a redirect from CW to Arrowverse should be added.

 

[Dalesean027]

Sure this works

 

[ByArrow]

Bump

 

[Ozcantabak]

Agree

 

[ByArrow]

Bump

 

[Hellbeast]

I’d say Black Canary (ArrowVerse - Earth One) and Black Siren (ArrowVerse - Earth 2) would be my suggestion for how to title the pages

 

[ByArrow]

I’d say Black Canary (ArrowVerse - Earth One) and Black Siren (ArrowVerse - Earth 2) would be my suggestion for how to title the pages

On Wiki, we don't use "Arrowverse" in the profile names of Arrowverse characters; instead, we use "CW". Additionally, there is more than one character named Black Canary, so we have to use “Laurel Lance” in the profile name.

Also, using the name Black Siren (Arrowverse - Earth 2) makes it seem like there is an Earth 1 version of Black Siren with the same name, but there isn't. And Black Siren now uses the name Black Canary, so her name should be Black Canary.

 

[Hellbeast]

On Wiki, we don't use "Arrowverse" in the profile names of Arrowverse characters; instead, we use "CW". Additionally, there is more than one character named Black Canary, so we have to use “Laurel Lance” in the profile name.

I mean I’d disagree

Dinah Drake is a different superhero yeah but that could easily just be on a tabber for her variants across media.

Also, using the name Black Siren (Arrowverse - Earth 2) makes it seem like there is an Earth 1 version of Black Siren with the same name, but there isn't. And Black Siren now uses the name Black Canary, so her name should be Black Canary.

Perhaps but it’s the name she was introduced as and went under for most of her run.

 

[ByArrow]

I mean I’d disagree

Then create a CRT and rename the 90+ pages.

Dinah Drake is a different superhero yeah but that could easily just be on a tabber for her variants across media.

Wally West is a different superhero, but his profile name is still "Flash (Wally West)".

Perhaps but it’s the name she was introduced as and went under for most of her run.

It doesn't matter, she took the name Black Canary and now uses that name.

And she will already get a redirect from that Black Siren name.

 

[Shiraito983]

looks fine

 

[Hellbeast]

Then create a CRT and rename the 90+ pages.

Needlessly hostile but ok

And yeah I’ll edit the pages if you give me time but that’s clearly not what I’m asking. I’m saying that Dinah’s profile should be on a separate tabber and be named as “Black Canary (ArrowVerse - Dinah Drake)

West is a different superhero, but his profile name is still "Flash (Wally West)".

Yeah

It doesn't matter, she took the name Black Canary and now uses that name.

Cool, that’s still the name she went by for years and entire seasons Wheras she only takes the BC title for Season 8

Also it’s not hard to just read the page and realise thats the case.

And she will already get a redirect from that Black Siren name.

Eh I’d say it should be on the page title but I don’t really care

 

[ByArrow]

Needlessly hostile but ok

I didn’t mean to, sorry

And yeah I’ll edit the pages if you give me time but that’s clearly not what I’m asking. I’m saying that Dinah’s profile should be on a separate tabber and be named as “Black Canary (ArrowVerse - Dinah Drake)

Dinah's profile already gives her name in parentheses.

Also, For characters sharing the same superhero name, we write the character's name in a separate parenthesis from the verse it comes from.

For example: Flash profiles

Cool, that’s still the name she went by for years and entire seasons Wheras she only takes the BC title for Season 8

It doesn't really matter.
She changed her name; she now goes by Black Canary, so she is now Black Canary.

 

[Hellbeast]

Also, For characters sharing the same superhero name, we write the character's name in a separate parenthesis from the verse it comes from.

In that case we’d probably have to do “Black Canary (ArrowVerse - Laurel Lance)

It doesn't really matter.
She changed her name; she now goes by Black Canary, so she is now Black Canary.

I’d argue it does

If we don’t have the “Earth One” title in the page then it could easily confuse people since we’d have to call her “Black Canary Laurel”

Black Siren (ArrowVerse) at least makes it clear which version of Laurel you’re talking about and we can have a redirect in place for Black Canary Earth 2

 

[ByArrow]

In that case we’d probably have to do “Black Canary (ArrowVerse - Laurel Lance)

I said in different parentheses. So the name should look like this: Black Canary (Laurel Lance) (Earth 1) (CW)

Via I’d argue it does

If we don’t have the “Earth One” title in the page then it could easily confuse people since we’d have to call her “Black Canary Laurel”

But we have.

The profile name will be Black Canary (Laurel Lance) (Earth 1) (CW). When I suggested separating Black Canary's profile and renaming Black Siren to Black Canary (Earth 2), I meant that the other Laurel would also be added to Earth 1. I guess I wasn't clear enough.

Black Siren (ArrowVerse) at least makes it clear which version of Laurel you’re talking about and we can have a redirect in place for Black Canary Earth 2

As I mentioned above, the Earth 1 version of Black Canary will also have Earth 1 in its name.

 

[Hellbeast]

But we have.

The profile name will be Black Canary (Laurel Lance) (Earth 1) (CW). When I suggested separating Black Canary's profile and renaming Black Siren to Black Canary (Earth 2), I meant that the other Laurel would also be added to Earth 1. I guess I wasn't clear enough.

Ah I see
It’s good but tbh it seems a bit wordy, I’d argue putting it into one set of parentheses could help like (Arrow Verse) (Laurel Lance-Earth One

As I mentioned above, the Earth 1 version of Black Canary will also have Earth 1 in its name.

If you mean Dinah Drake then that seems pointless since Drake doesn’t have variants as relevant as Laurel does

 

[ByArrow]

Ah I see
It’s good but tbh it seems a bit wordy, I’d argue putting it into one set of parentheses could help like (Arrow Verse) (Laurel Lance-Earth One

I prefer (Earth 1) (CW) to (CW-Earth 1) because I think it fits better with the naming on Wiki.

I'll ask an admin which one is more suitable for the Wiki.

If you mean Dinah Drake then that seems pointless since Drake doesn’t have variants as relevant as Laurel does

I mean Laurel (Earth 1)