Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles General Discussion

[KingTempest]

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[KingTempest]

Yeo ppl

Yeah I made this general cause I saw we didn't have one, but mainly for the revisions I'm planning

I plan on revising/creating the IDW TMNT comics verse

These are the profiles I'm making

These are the calcs

 

[SuperStar]

Wait, who is the 5th turtle?

 

[KingTempest]

Wait, who is the 5th turtle?

Jennika (IDW)

Jennika, also known as Jenny or Jenn for short, was the ninja chūnin of Splinter's Foot Clan, a dear friend to the Turtles and for a time was a love interest to Casey Jones. Originally human, she is now a mutant turtle after her life was saved by an emergency transfusion of mutagenic blood...

turtlepedia.fandom.com

 

[Kaio1277999]

turtles need more love on this site

 

[Maskofthedragon]

Whenever we get Mirage profiles, how do we treat the guest era?
Should we ignore all of it or just the really silly stuff?

 

[Dinobot1996]

Did anyone else get to see Mutant Mayhem yet?

 

[HammerStrikes219]

Jennika (IDW)

Jennika, also known as Jenny or Jenn for short, was the ninja chūnin of Splinter's Foot Clan, a dear friend to the Turtles and for a time was a love interest to Casey Jones. Originally human, she is now a mutant turtle after her life was saved by an emergency transfusion of mutagenic blood...

turtlepedia.fandom.com

************ I miss this thread.

Have watched some TMNT stuff back in the day, but my memory is in the gutter obviously after years has passed

 

[Dinobot1996]

Some noteworthy stuff from early on in the new Mutants Unleashed game:

• Raphael's special ability basically seems to give him Rage Power
• Donatello's special ability should technically give him Light Manipulation for being able to use the flash of his phone camera in combat
• The Turtles can easily destroy stacks of wooden crates
• Both the Turtles and random enemies can withstand getting hit by cars
• While fighting near subway tracks, enemies can survive getting hit by trains
• Rocksteady easily knocks aside an overturned bus by charging into it

 

[V-King]

turtles need more love on this site

Can someone add me on the supporter list?

 

[Shadyboi0]

This verse loves 9-A ngl

 

[Dinobot1996]

The Mutant Mayhem continuity should get more representation on the wiki, especially now that Tales of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and Mutants Unleashed have both been released this year.

Also worth mentioning is that episode 5 of Tales of the TMNT gave Superduperfly a feat of smashing a large hole through a roof/ceiling during a flashback. Not sure if that would get a higher result than the GPE value he currently scales to.

Also, the Mechazoids survived getting a shipping container full of fireworks getting dropped on them in the middle of a shipping yard filled with containers of fireworks.

 

[Dinobot1996]

Another random feat from Mutants Unleashed:

With preparation (in this case, stealing a bunch of speakers from an AV shop), a mind-controlled Bebop and Rocksteady can set up a concert in the Bronx that could create a sonic boom loud enough to shatter every window in a ten block radius. (Or possibly just three blocks)

 

[Dinobot1996]

Feats involving Mechazoids:

Spoiler: Mechazoid 01

• Can turn its hands into weapons and has retractable secondary arms
• Is agile enough to keep up with Leonardo across rooftops
• Can burn away clothing with its eye
• Runs on all fours, and tackles Leonardo into a water tower a notable distance away, denting it
• Struggles with Leonardo, though he is able to push it away with some effort
• Grabs and throws Leonardo
• Has an informative HUD
• Analyzes Leonardo's ninjutsu and easily blocks his attacks before tanking a kick from him, then uses ninjutsu itself.
• A jump kick is ineffective against it, and it ragdolls Leo with a spin kick
• Catches two shuriken, but is damaged by a third hitting its eye
• Tears through a window frame
• Is completely unfazed by April throwing books and her phone at it (For reference, April was able to slightly hurt Leonardo with a slap)
• Can spin its arm (and whatever it grabs at) high speeds
• Can extend its arm several meters
• Punches Leo into a wall hard enough to damage it
• Was damaged, but still functional after getting hit by April with a fire axe
• Uses its buzzsaw to clash with Leo's swords
• Is left critically damaged (though ultimately not destroyed) after being short circuited with a hose, impaled with Leo's swords, and sent falling several stories onto a police car

Spoiler: Mechazoid 02

• Left badly damaged, though still functional, after getting caught in the shipping yard explosion. It's unclear if the other Mechazoids suffered similar damage, as 02 was the only one shown onscreen needing to repair itself in the aftermath.
• Able to detect the origin of a truck
• After repairing itself, takes hits from the Purple Dragons
• Stops a chainsaw with one hand and takes it
• Is unfazed by a boomerang to the head
• Blocks an attack from Angel and incapacitates her with electricity
• Attempts to use the chainsaw on Raphael, but only succeeds in freeing him, not being able to penetrate his shell
• Withstands Hun tackling it and hitting it with a brick repeatedly
• Overpowers Hun and subdues several other Purple Dragons, leaving a baseball bat and a pipe broken
• Struggles with Hun and attempts to use a retractable blade
• Is able to function after being decapitated
• Clashes with Raph while restraining Hun at the same time
• Withstands getting slammed into a wall by the chicken plucker machine, but is disabled when it is activated

Spoiler: Mechazoid 03

• Catches up to a recycling truck
• Cracks a windshield with a punch
• Is damaged by a trash compactor
• Repairs itself with parts from a bike and detects a picture upload from Rod's phone
• Smashes a countertop
• Smashes a cabinet, another part of the countertop, and punches a hole through a locker door
• Gets mauled by a bear
• Shatters a door
• Blocks attacks from Mikey and throws him into tiled walls hard enough to damage them
• After losing both arms, takes a beating from Mikey that damages another part of the wall

Spoiler: Mechazoid 04

• Breaks through a ceiling
• Is only briefly incapacitated by a taser
• Knocks doors off their hinges
• Cracks concrete
• Accidentally warps a steel beam by bumping into it
• Crushes a can by stepping on it
• Can see in infrared
• Can attach to the ceiling of a subway train
• Can easily punch holes through the roof of a subway train
• Knocks down a subway train door with a punch, visibly warping it a bit
• Cuts through the roof of a subway train
• Is undamaged by subway passengers throwing stuff at it
• Slams Donnie through a subway train window and attempts to grind him against a wall
• Is eventually able to analyze and counter Donnie's attacks

More to be added later...

 

[Dinobot1996]

Apparently Tales of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles is getting a Blu-ray release on November 12:

 

[Oscar]

Talking about TMNT... These 3 profiles are a disaster

 

[Dinobot1996]

More Mechazoid feats:

Spoiler: mechazoid stuff

• Mechazoid 01 uses parts from a security camera to repair its eye
• 01 easily knocks a door off its hinges
• 01 can scan for targets
• 03 breaks through ceiling and crushes metal table by landing on it
• 03 is briefly incapacitated by getting zapped
• 04 breaks through a billboard
• Bishop used 04 to hack video screens
• 04 burns through a turnstile gate
• Breaks off part of a turnstile and uses it to create a makeshift arm, with Bishop describing the Mechazoids as self-repairing and capable of learning and adapting
• 04 briefly keeps up with a moving subway train as it starts moving
• 04 knocks down subway train door
• 04 snaps pole and throws it into wall
• 04 tumbles out of detached car and keeps up with the train ahead log enough to use it's arm to grapple on, though it breaks its leg from getting dragged
• Unphased by a sai piercing its torso
• Spins Michelangelo at high speeds
• Clashes with Leo's swords using its arms
• Buzzsaws slice into shipping containers
• Knocks Mikey into wooden crates
• Get flung away by Raph
• Withstands getting hit in the face by Donnie's staff
• Catches a shuriken without looking
• Withstands getting kicked out of the air by Mikey
• Gets knocked off a crane and lands on Raph
• Still functional after a shipping container filled with fireworks is dropped on top of them and explodes on impact

 

[Lonkitt]

TMNT 2012 would definitely benefit from more calcs and more keys that are split apart based on different points in the show

It's made pretty clear that the turtles get stronger and more skilled as the show continues. In the finale, each one of them are able to individually harm Super Shredder, who much stronger than and easily stomped the team previously, for example

 

[Dinobot1996]

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Every TMNT universe needs work on this site tbh (the Rise pages being the most up-to-date).

 

[Lonkitt]

Every TMNT universe needs work on this site tbh

Fr, it's a bit sad how they've gotten zero overhauls

The 1990 film pages might actually need the most reworking given they have two live action sequels as well as the 2007 film, which is considered to be the fourth film in that series. The wiki doesn't acknowledge any of the sequels

 

[KingTempest]

Every TMNT universe needs work on this site tbh (the Rise pages being the most up-to-date).

Fr, it's a bit sad how they've gotten zero overhauls

The 1990 film pages might actually need the most reworking given they have two live action sequels as well as the 2007 film, which is considered to be the fourth film in that series. The wiki doesn't acknowledge any of the sequels

I was working on IDW but I dropped it cause of life. I have a bunch of calcs and draft profiles if anyone wants to continue.

 

[Lonkitt]

I was working on IDW but I dropped it cause of life. I have a bunch of calcs and draft profiles if anyone wants to continue.

May we have the links please?

EDIT: Nevermind, I scrolled up LMAO

 

[Lonkitt]

Also, the official TMNT YouTube Channel has videos covering each of the 2012 Turtles. A lot of stuff can be pulled from them and applied to multiple aspects of the pages:

-Leo
-Raph
-Donnie
-Mikey

 

[Dinobot1996]

Tales of the TMNT confirmed for December:

Is that Tokka, Rahzar, and Old Hob I see?

 

[Lonkitt]

Also, if the 1987 pages ever get revised, how are we treating the Turtles Forever and the 2012 crossover episodes?

Both are seemingly canon to 87, but they both contradict each other. It's not even because both have somewhat similar premises. It's because 87 Donatello goes to the Mirage Universe with 2012 Donnie and doesn't recall the universe despite having gone there in Turtles Forever (I'm under the assumption that the 2012 Mirage scene operates similarly to the alternate version we see in Turtles Forever, so I'm not even gonna talk about any Mirage scaling there)

Obviously this isn't the highest priority for any potential future revisions for the 1987 pages, but the topic's definitely gonna come up at some point if that ever happens

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Either

• Continuity error.
• The 2003 and 2012 Turtles met their own distinct versions of the 1987 Turtles (technically possible with the logic that there's infinite timelines but admittedly complete headcanon)

The 2012 Turtles should probably scale to the 1987 Turtles when they get Season 5 keys.

 

[Lonkitt]

Either

• Continuity error.
• The 2003 and 2012 Turtles met their own distinct versions of the 1987 Turtles (technically possible with the logic that there's infinite timelines but admittedly complete headcanon)

It's probably option 1, yeah

The 2012 Turtles should probably scale to the 1987 Turtles when they get Season 5 keys.

Agreed plus 1987 (and 2012) probably has some feats that are higher than 9-A

Speaking of which, this feat from the first episode of the 87 series could probably get some decent AP and LS results (divided by four for each turtle given this was a team effort of course). The wall here is pretty thick

 

[Oscar]

TMNT 2012 would definitely benefit from more calcs and more keys that are split apart based on different points in the show

It's made pretty clear that the turtles get stronger and more skilled as the show continues. In the finale, each one of them are able to individually harm Super Shredder, who much stronger than and easily stomped the team previously, for example

I actually found some calcs on Reddit that can give turtles tier 7...

 

[Oscar]

Either

• Continuity error.
• The 2003 and 2012 Turtles met their own distinct versions of the 1987 Turtles (technically possible with the logic that there's infinite timelines but admittedly complete headcanon)

The 2012 Turtles should probably scale to the 1987 Turtles when they get Season 5 keys.

Your confirmation would be correct if it weren't for the fact that Saturday Morning Adventures (Official continuation of the 1987 series) acknowledges that both Crossovers happened and that only one line from '87 exists as such.

 

[Lonkitt]

Your confirmation would be correct if it weren't for the fact that Saturday Morning Adventures (Official continuation of the 1987 series) acknowledges that both Crossovers happened and that only one line from '87 exists as such.

Welp, there we go. Both crossovers happened for sure

I wish they had Donnie at least acknowledge he's seen the "Mirage Universe" before, but oh well. We have confirmation

 

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[Lonkitt]

I actually found some calcs on Reddit that can give turtles tier 7...

These would need calcs on VSBW due to the wiki policy AFAIK, but these could definitely be good

Honestly, the three big cartoons of the TMNT (1987, 2003, and 2012) are in desperate needs of more calcs

 

[Lonkitt]

It's made pretty clear that the turtles get stronger and more skilled as the show continues. In the finale, each one of them are able to individually harm Super Shredder, who much stronger than and easily stomped the team previously, for example

Another good example is with Bradford. As a human, he's able to go toe-to-toe with the turtles and even style on them. Later when he's Dogpound, the team get to a point where they're able to fight him comfortably, with Leo being able to harm him and with Donatello doing the same in one situation (as well as styling on him during another episode without even focusing on fighting Dogpound in the moment). Later against Rahzar, Raphael's able to harm him with a kick and in another situation, an exhausted Leo quickly takes down Rahzar, Fishface, and Tiger Claw in a row after having just suffered a combined beating from them and the Shredder

Needless to say, there's a lot of progression in both skill and strength for the characters in 2012

 

[Oscar]

Reviewing Casey and April's 2012 profiles... I actually noticed quite a nerf as someone who watched the series.

Since Casey and April have consistently proven to be equal to the Turtles in physical abilities, especially Casey, who even defeated a large number of villains the Turtles had previously fought.

 

[Lonkitt]

Reviewing Casey and April's 2012 profiles... I actually noticed quite a nerf as someone who watched the series.

Since Casey and April have consistently proven to be equal to the Turtles in physical abilities, especially Casey, who even defeated a large number of villains the Turtles had previously fought.

Why would that be a nerf? That'd be an upgrade for Casey and April

 

[Dinobot1996]

The Mutant Mayhem universe has been expanding quickly. By the end of 2027, it'll be at two movies, four seasons of Tales, a short film, a video game, and a comic book series taking place in it (and that's assuming nothing else gets announced)

 

[Oscar]

Why would that be a nerf? That'd be an upgrade for Casey and April

UPS... I think I expressed myself badly... What I meant was that for some reason, their profiles do not scale to turtles despite there being clear evidence

 

[Dinobot1996]

One more handful of feats for the Mechazoids and related characters from the last episode of that arc from Tales of the TMNT:

Spoiler: XS-1 Mech

• Is at least twice Raph's height
• Breaks holes in the floor with its attacks
• Spins its claw hand like a drill and punches through a large metal box
• Has a flamethrower
• Can launch its mace hand
• Creates a shockwave with a stomp that sends Leo flying, then shatters a wooden crate with its mace hand
• Withstands Raph's sais, then spins its torso to throw him off
• Breaks more wooden crates
• Its claw hand is on a retractable cable like the mace hand, which it uses to grab and throw Raph
• Lifts and smashes a wooden crate
• The window is completely undamaged by Pigeon Pete flying into it
• Withstands attacks from all four turtles, with Mikey only briefly managing to restrain one of its arms
• Knocks back Leo with another shockwave stomp
• Can shoot nuts, bolts, and hand tools at high speeds
• Uses an extra arm on its back to throw Donnie
• Breaks two wooden crates at once
• Briefly fights off Mechazoids 01, 02, and 03 before being overwhelmed and wrecked

Spoiler: mechazoids

• Mechazoids 01, 02 and 03 repaired and upgraded themselves after their previous defeats, and do battle with the armored turtles.
• 02 easily cuts through a crate with its chainsaw
• 01 embeds an axe in the floor
• 01 tanks a hit from behind by Leo's makeshift blades
• The Mechazoid's coding grew past its previous limitations, allowing them to speak on their own
• 03 rips the arm off an industrial robot and throws it
• Override Bishop's shutdown command
• 01, 02, and 03, take hits from the XS-1 and overwhelm it
• 01 gets its head pierced by Leo's blade, but this only very briefly subdues it
• Aside from some broken teeth, withstands getting punched across the room by Raph with enough force to crush a large metal box
• Gain the upper hand over the turtles, with 01 pinning down Leo under its foot, and 02 restraining Raph with one hand
• Remotely activate every Mechazoid in the factory
• Evolved coding changes too quickly for Bishop or Donnie to hack, leaving an EMP as the only viable method of stopping all of them
• Mini Mechazoid remotely communicates with 01, which then in turn signals the rest of the Mechazoids
• Mini Mechazoid attacks Donnie, but gets knocked away by April
• Easily scale a building
• Donnie can barely hold back a group of Mechazoids
• Through sheer numbers, overwhelm the turtles and destroy Metalhead

Spoiler: Metalhead

• Knocks away Mechazoids 01, 02, and 03 while they were focused on attacking the turtles
• Equipped with blades and a bo staff
• Mechazoid 04 was reprogrammed into Metalhead by Donatello, who changed one line of Bishop's code to make it seek to protect mutants instead of destroying them
• Slices through multiple Mechazoids with ease using its twin blades
• Subdues a Mechazoid with a headbutt
• Is still connected to the other Mechazoids enough to be aware of their current objective in specific detail
• Overpowers a Mechazoid and throws it into a tanker truck
• Fights off a couple more Mechazoids before being overwhelmed and torn apart by the horde

Metalhead is supposed to be returning in the Tales of the TMNT comic series starting this month, and thus should presumably be getting more feats soon.

 

[Dinobot1996]

More notable Tales of the TMNT character feats:

Spoiler: pigeon pete

• Crashes through a wooden crate
• Flies during a storm
• Has infrared vision
• Continues flying through the storm while Leo hangs on
• Crashes through a billboard
• Survives a multistory fall after getting ensnared by an electrified net
• Weaponizes his poop

Spoiler: Anenemies

• Sneak up on Raph and Scumbug from underwater, dragging away the latter
• Drag Raph underwater, though his sai cuts through their tentacles with ease
• Extend their tentacles several meters to attack Raph, knocking back Scumbug in the process
• Knocks away Raph
• Slams Raph with enough force to crack concrete
• Three overwhelm Raph temporarily
• Withstands getting rammed into a large concrete pillar by Raph hard enough to crack it apart
• Grabs Raph and slams him into a wall
• Keep April O'Neil restrained
• On Goldfin's orders, set up a dynamite bomb intended to flood the city, and ended up blowing up a yacht when it did detonate.