Genshin Impact Discussion Thread

[Voidnether]

That one NPC is right after all, Dottore is number 2 for absolutely no reason and no feats at all, lmao.
The only one who truly representing their harbinger rank is just Capitano atp.

Sandrone number 7 because of her intelligence and her robot things.
Columbina logically would've been number one if their harbinger rank can be raised or lowered, sadly they can't.

Their rank is simply how important their contribution is within the Fatui.

It was ranked based on strength but as far as I can see if this is just ranked based on technological invention, even if that's so: Going by that logic, Sandrone technically would be the one replacing Dottore due to Pulonia being atleast capable of mimicking 10% Rerir compared to Dottore with Scaramouche. Like even the leaked stuff in 6.x about Dottore here was another Archon invention feat where it's just him this time instead of Scaramouche, the ranking is so inconsistent since Childe ong

 

[Giannysmag]

Skirk states that the adepti realm couldn't withstand the force of her clashing with the Traveler

Canonically sub-City level realm btw

 

[MSahla]

Should i put him the same tier as current traveler tho?
That would be kinda funny, Ineffa and Flins 6-B lol

Sahlwrld/Flins

vsbattles.fandom.com

 

[The_Tetromino_King]

Should i put him the same tier as current traveler tho?
That would be kinda funny, Ineffa and Flins 6-B lol

Sahlwrld/Flins

vsbattles.fandom.com

Yeah, sure.

Also Flins doesn't need to use the moonwheel, he can manipulate its elements by himself. also is this really all the hax he will receive?

 

[MSahla]

Yeah, sure.
Also Flins doesn't need to use the moonwheel, he can manipulate its elements by himself. also is this really all the hax he will receive?

But he still can use it and a moon wheel user so it's still count.
Well, thats just his current hax for now, maybe we'll got some new haxes when we got new fae lore.

Bro's still new character anyway

 

[The_Tetromino_King]

But he still can use it and a moon wheel user so it's still count.

Lorewise, he barely uses it and use it as a coverup. his power comes from himself. I think You should clarify that in the profile.

Well, thats just his current hax for now, maybe we'll got some new haxes when we got new fae lore.

Bro's still new character anyway

he lwk feels more haxxed than this tbh

 

[MSahla]

Lorewise, he barely uses it and use it as a coverup. his power comes from himself. I think You should clarify that in the profile.

Buddy i don't need to, he can trigger Lunar-Charged reaction which is obviously using Kuuvahki energy. And he can even create a shield with Kuuvahki power too.

Theres no confirmation that the Fae can manipulate Kuuvahki energy, The Fae have their own power. Like think of the adeptus.

 

[Voidnether]

Should i put him the same tier as current traveler tho?
That would be kinda funny, Ineffa and Flins 6-B lol

Sahlwrld/Flins

vsbattles.fandom.com

Yeah he's not beating Childe anytime soon bro if this is all he had, I thought he chainscaled off Rerir or something that's why there are people saying Flins > Childe, holy ragebait

 

[MSahla]

Yeah he's not beating Childe anytime soon bro if this is all he had, I thought he chainscaled off Rerir or something that's why there are people saying Flins > Childe, holy ragebait

He's stronger than below 10% Rerir or even can be match against 10% rerir if he wasn't weakened after blocking that beam of light from Aino's cannon.

But, Flins have better Speed Feat than childe btw.

 

[Voidnether]

He's stronger than below 10% Rerir or even can be match against 10% rerir if he wasn't weakened after blocking that beam of light from Aino's cannon.

But, Flins have better Speed Feat than childe btw.

His ability sucks so that wouldn't even matter if he would just get killed by Childe's abyssal energy through his Foul Legacy unless he had resistance to all of them in which I'm unsure

 

[MSahla]

His ability sucks so that wouldn't even matter if he would just get killed by Childe's abyssal energy through his Foul Legacy unless he had resistance to all of them in which I'm unsure

Bros carrying his lantern all the time who had Rerir's corpse and has Abyssal Energy in it.

 

[Voidnether]

Bros carrying his lantern all the time who had Rerir's corpse and has Abyssal Energy in it.

It's still not on the same level of resistance as Childe who managed to live in the Void Realm itself for like 3 months or so there back when he was a 14 year old child anyway, carrying a lantern which had a small area and like I'm sure there had to be like a barrier that prevents the abyssal energy from coming out and Flins resisting it are both two different things. Logically if it wasn't prevented, it would've just came out and somehow everyone had resistance to Abyssal Energy due to them being capable near Flins's lantern, yeah nah

 

[The_Tetromino_King]

Buddy i don't need to, he can trigger Lunar-Charged reaction which is obviously using Kuuvahki energy. And he can even create a shield with Kuuvahki power too.

Genshin Impact: A Lantern in the Night shows that Lunar reaction is from his own power, it comes from his latern and his blue flame.

Theres no confirmation that the Fae can manipulate Kuuvahki energy, The Fae have their own power. Like think of the adeptus.

They should, since they are created from Frostmoon lights.

 

[MSahla]

Genshin Impact: A Lantern in the Night shows that Lunar reaction is from his own power, it comes from his latern and his blue flame.

No they didn't show it? That video of him fighting without context.
And the devs already said moon wheel user can manipulate kuuvahki.

And theres no statement yet the fae could manipulate the kuuvahki without moon wheel, it is just possibly the elements.

 

[MSahla]

Also, I think Flins is 500 years old because bro witnessed the switch between the Belyi Tsar and Tsaritsa which is around 500 years ago.

Local legends have it that the noble who vanished — Kyryll the Azure Flame — was originally a blue flame that guided fallen souls across the icy plains. A flame will eventually go out, and while Kyryll did not stay at court for long, he was present for the transition of power from the Belyi Tsar to the Tsaritsa. There are only so many reasons for his departure: Dissatisfaction with the Tsar, or with the Tsaritsa, or perhaps he said something he shouldn't have and was purged for it. Some even say that his disappearance has nothing to do with politics. That his fire simply went out, having reached the end of its natural lifespan, and thus was never seen again. Not everything has to do with politics, so such people say. Could anyone put a number on the happenings at court, in any case?

 

[MSahla]

It is so funny that Flins listening to the story of himself which is "Kyryll"
Even though thats literally himself.

In the old of Snezhnaya, he always called "Chudomir" and Kyryll.

 

[MSahla]

 

[MSahla]

Hoyo is cooking

 

[MSahla]

@Giannysmag UNIVERSAL NEUVILLETTE LET'S GOO

 

[OmniScalator]

Guyssss

Arlecchino is scion of crimson moon, just like frost moon SCIONS!!!!

 

[The_Tetromino_King]

Guyssss

Arlecchino is scion of crimson moon, just like frost moon SCIONS!!!!

where do you get that?

 

[OmniScalator]

where do you get that?

Arlecchino boss description -

Someday, the hearth-fire's faint radiance shall burn the old world away, incinerating the final scion of the baleful moon as well.

And her blood have bale fire just just like lauma's blood looks like "frost moon" color

Lauma's blood helps with kuuvahki sensitivity while Arle's help with erasing memory


Arle is final scion

 

[The_Tetromino_King]

Arlecchino boss description -



And her blood have bale fire just just like lauma's blood looks like "frost moon" color

Lauma's blood helps with kuuvahki sensitivity while Arle's help with erasing memory


Arle is final scion

Yeah. The crimson moon dynasty were worshippers iirc.

Scion just mean descendant btw.

 

[OmniScalator]

Yeah. The crimson moon dynasty were worshippers iirc.

Scion just mean descendant btw.

Exactly, crimson moon dynasty was Scion of crimson moon, like frost moon scions of hiisi island

 

[The_Tetromino_King]

Exactly, crimson moon dynasty was Scion of crimson moon, like frost moon scions of hiisi island

interesting

 

[MSahla]

Exactly, crimson moon dynasty was Scion of crimson moon, like frost moon scions of hiisi island

That "Crimson Moon" is still unknown which one of the three moons but "allegedly" is the Iridescent Moon/Canon.

So you're gonna tell me that those Khaenriahns from Crimson Moon Dynasty also from Hyperborea?

 

[OmniScalator]

That "Crimson Moon" is still unknown which one of the three moons but "allegedly" is the Iridescent Moon/Canon.

So you're gonna tell me that those Khaenriahns from Crimson Moon Dynasty also from Hyperborea?

If you don't know

At first there was single unified civilization of human's across all of teyvat and none other

Hyperborea was capital of this unified civilization

In funerary year this civilization got destroyed, and people who were saved and blessed by Frost moon became frost moon scions

Just like that, it is very safe to say that people saved and blessed by Crimson moon/bale moon became Crimson moon scions/Bale moon scions


And yes naturally khanraeiahns are also from this first civilization

 

[MSahla]

If you don't know

Oh i know.

What i meant is that, though it was a single unified civilization but their place names were different. As i mentioned before like Sal Vindagnyr, Natlantea or even Remuria.

But their capital was Hyperborea which is all of them are worshipping the three moon goddesses. Now in Sal Vindagnyr case, they were all enjoying the Celestia's blessing instead of one of three moons. So by this alone, not all places at the time was getting blessed by the three moon goddesses, Hyperborea was getting the most blessing from the moons.

 

[OmniScalator]

Oh i know.

What i meant is that, though it was a single unified civilization but their place names were different. As i mentioned before like Sal Vindagnyr, Natlantea or even Remuria.

But their capital was Hyperborea which is all of them are worshipping the three moon goddesses. Now in Sal Vindagnyr case, they were all enjoying the Celestia's blessing instead of one of three moons. So by this alone, not all places at the time was getting blessed by the three moon goddesses, Hyperborea was getting the most blessing from the moons.

Since crimson moon formed after iridescent got destroyed, it is highly likely that crimson moon didn't existed at hyperborea's time period

 

[MSahla]

Since crimson moon formed after iridescent got destroyed, it is highly likely that crimson moon didn't existed at hyperborea's time period

I don't think so. Both Iridescent Moon and Hyperborea were destroyed in the same year which is the Funerary Year which also the Great War of Vengeance triggered by Dragon King Nibelung.

Hyperborea worshipped all three of them not like this block is worshipping the Frost Moon, the other block is worshipping the Eternal Moon and the other block is worshipping the Iridescendet Moon.

Instead, this "Crimson Moon" is likely a name from the ideas of the Khaenri'ah people rather than the people of Hyperborea as they would have no reason to name the Iridescent Moon as the "Crimson Moon".

When the "Iridescent Moon" shattered, the crimson shadow sank into the abyssal sea.

With this quote alone even further supported that the idea of the name "Crimson Moon" is from Khaenri'ahns.

 

[PedjaTarzan]

@Giannysmag UNIVERSAL NEUVILLETTE LET'S GOO

Vro wtf

 

[PedjaTarzan]

aight nothing impressive, most off stuff IS taken from his vsbw profile with addition of bunch of hyperbolic shit where somehow realms in genshin are universal and ftl speed ig its from blackholes against narwhal but thats it

 

[OmniScalator]

I think base traveler is low harbinger level

All of their Archon tier feats are performed by being under temporary external buffs of unknown measure

Like in Inazuma fight bro was buffed by 99 visions

In sumeru against shouki no kami, nahida gave them special device saying "it will come handy", and then said since she don't know how to fight she will support traveler, and then in last fight where traveler actually defeats shouki no kami, they were buffed by knowledge of whole sumeru

After this next they fought Narwhal while under being buff of Neuvillette

After that they fought against pyro dragon mimic, and they were under buff from lord of the night and tribe


And if we talk about good anti feats -

They gets neg diffed by Arlecchino who is supposed to not be Archon Tier since she is ranked 4th

In sumeru interlude chapter, when they again went into dream created by nahida and had to fight Shouki no kami, they were about to take a fatal blow and wanderer saved them

And now, Pulonia is doing better fights than traveler

We should probably make 2 keys for every region, one with buff, one without it

What do you guys think?

 

[IReallyLoveRilysse]

@Giannysmag UNIVERSAL NEUVILLETTE LET'S GOO

Can't see it

 

[PedjaTarzan]

I think base traveler is low harbinger level

All of their Archon tier feats are performed by being under temporary external buffs of unknown measure

Like in Inazuma fight bro was buffed by 99 visions

In sumeru against shouki no kami, nahida gave them special device saying "it will come handy", and then said since she don't know how to fight she will support traveler, and then in last fight where traveler actually defeats shouki no kami, they were buffed by knowledge of whole sumeru

After this next they fought Narwhal while under being buff of Neuvillette

After that they fought against pyro dragon mimic, and they were under buff from lord of the night and tribe


And if we talk about good anti feats -

They gets neg diffed by Arlecchino who is supposed to not be Archon Tier since she is ranked 4th

In sumeru interlude chapter, when they again went into dream created by nahida and had to fight Shouki no kami, they were about to take a fatal blow and wanderer saved them

And now, Pulonia is doing better fights than traveler

We should probably make 2 keys for every region, one with buff, one without it

What do you guys think?

put him at 8-C

 

[MSahla]

I think base traveler is low harbinger level

All of their Archon tier feats are performed by being under temporary external buffs of unknown measure

Like in Inazuma fight bro was buffed by 99 visions

In sumeru against shouki no kami, nahida gave them special device saying "it will come handy", and then said since she don't know how to fight she will support traveler, and then in last fight where traveler actually defeats shouki no kami, they were buffed by knowledge of whole sumeru

After this next they fought Narwhal while under being buff of Neuvillette

After that they fought against pyro dragon mimic, and they were under buff from lord of the night and tribe


And if we talk about good anti feats -

They gets neg diffed by Arlecchino who is supposed to not be Archon Tier since she is ranked 4th

In sumeru interlude chapter, when they again went into dream created by nahida and had to fight Shouki no kami, they were about to take a fatal blow and wanderer saved them

And now, Pulonia is doing better fights than traveler

We should probably make 2 keys for every region, one with buff, one without it

What do you guys think?

So like..
"7-B, up to 6-B via 99 vision buff" Type shi?

 

[OmniScalator]

So like..
"7-B, up to 6-B via 99 vision buff" Type shi?

Yeah we can do that


or we can make separate keys like -

"7-B bla bla | 6-B with buff bla bla | 7-B bla bla | 6-B with buff bla bla"

 

[MSahla]

"7-B bla bla | 6-B with buff bla bla | 7-B bla bla | 6-B with buff bla bla"

This doesn't work because "|" is the seperation between the different keys.
So if a single key have like.. Different level of power than the base one it would just be like what i said before.

| "At least 7-B, up to 6-B with something" |

 

[The_Tetromino_King]

Was there ever a true age of darkness?
Where ignorance and shadow were mistaken for divine,
And the "Devil" was hailed as creator.
Where violence and suffering ran rampant,
A "Dark Age" of savagery that burned through civilization.

The "Devil" is merely a mask,
Through which the power of darkness is revealed.
The god who creates and maintains,
The abyss that consumes and destroys.
That infinite, boundless, perpetual "Age of Enlightenment."

They lowkey sneak dissed nibelung. Rhinedottir enlightenment with the abyss is infinite and boundless.

 

[MSahla]

This doesn't work because "|" is the seperation between the different keys.
So if a single key have like.. Different level of power than the base one it would just be like what i said before.

| "At least 7-B, up to 6-B with something" |

And btw, it's already on the profile, like in the inazuma key.

Tier: High 8-C | 7-C | 7-B, at least 6-B with Vision Buff | 6-B | 6-B | At least 6-B, possibly 5-B with Nightsoul's Blessing.

Key: Mondstadt Chapter | Liyue Chapter | Inazuma Chapter | Sumeru Chapter | Fontaine Chapter | Natlan Chapter