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MCU Phase 6 General Discussion Thread

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Set leak for Doomsday; this is the crew merch that shows off some important characters designs for the film.

(Seems like Sentry is getting his old suit back. THOR'S SUIT LOOKS LIKE THE INFINITY WAR ONE, INCOMING PEAK?! I love the labcoat for Richards. Doom's design looks like the one from the Disney Chinese Expo. Cyclops' DESIGN IS SICK ASF. God Loki 😍. Franklin looks adorable. Can't wait to see Shang-Chi on-screen again)
 
Naeem0304 said:
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Set leak for Doomsday; this is the crew merch that shows off some important characters designs for the film.

(Seems like Sentry is getting his old suit back. THOR'S SUIT LOOKS LIKE THE INFINITY WAR ONE, INCOMING PEAK?! I love the labcoat for Richards. Doom's design looks like the one from the Disney Chinese Expo. Cyclops' DESIGN IS SICK ASF. God Loki 😍. Franklin looks adorable. Can't wait to see Shang-Chi on-screen again)
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No Doctor Strange? 😭
 
It seems like the crew merch is only showing characters that were confirmed by the cast reveal livestream earlier this year (plus Franklin)
 
I have questions regarding powerscaling in what if. Do variants scale to their sacred counterparts until the point of divergence? Or do they not simply because it's an alternate reality. And if they do, is this unique to MCU or is this generally accepted in the wiki regarding MWI verses.
 
Ptumri9 said:
Yes, they do.


I have no idea about how other verses are treated. However, if they have a similar multiverse structure, by pure logic, the same should apply to others.
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Hmm. Thanks for the clarification. Has there been any instance where a character after the split does a feat that is better than any mainline feat however there is no instance of the character training or getting stronger after the split? How would this situation be treated?
 
The scaling is pretty weird for the most part also why was infinity hulk so fodder he supposedly had infinite power to
 
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The Reality Stone should get Necromancy

Also, seems Spidey isn't going to get upgrade to tier 6 (who would have thought?)
 
darkphantom9805 said:
He lifted Stormbreaker which only the strength of a god can lift sorry
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Can I know where the whole "only gods can lift" is explained/mentionned? Cause last time I checked, Captain America wasn't a god and he could lift it during Endgame and unlike Mijolnir, Stormbreaker doesn't have a "those worthy can lift it" enchantement (and yes, it seems it can be summoned by those proven worthy to lift the hammer but that's it, the axe itself doesn't have a worthy enchantement)
 
ArkhamDC06 said:
Can I know where the whole "only gods can lift" is explained/mentionned? Cause last time I checked, Captain America wasn't a god and he could lift it during Endgame and unlike Mijolnir, Stormbreaker doesn't have a "those worthy can lift it" enchantement (and yes, it seems it can be summoned by those proven worthy to lift the hammer but that's it, the axe itself doesn't have a worthy enchantement)
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Captain amercia had the power of Thor when he lifted it lol we literally had this conversation earlier bro needs to read the conversation and it’s literally stated by Thor himself that the body and minds of people weak would crumble the Russo Brothers when asked if anyone could just wield stated only those with Thor level strength could other statements say you have to be extremely powerful just to even pick the weapon up
 
darkphantom9805 said:
Captain amercia had the power of Thor when he lifted it lol we literally had this conversation earlier it’s literally stated by Thor himself that the body and minds of people weak can’t wield it the Russo Brothers when asked if anyone could just wield stated only those with Thor level strength could
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Then it doesn't make sense that Spidey can lift it because he's NOT Thor level strength
 
Unless made absolutely clear, stated with absolute precision, not just "many feats" but a clear statement that directly, openly, irrevocably states "Spider-Man is just as powerful as Thor and similar characters", it just can't happen
 
ArkhamDC06 said:
Then it doesn't make sense that Spidey can lift it because he's NOT Thor level strength
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Yes he is he has feats of that range shown in endgame and infinity war the site just considers them outliers also Russo brothers have spidey at hulk tier just wait until doomsday and secret wars and you’ll see

ArkhamDC06 said:
Unless made absolutely clear, stated with absolute precision, not just "many feats" but a clear statement that directly, openly, irrevocably states "Spider-Man is just as powerful as Thor and similar characters", it just can't happen
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Also this is a pretty Ridonculous claim if we can’t even accept feats that happen on screen then what are we doing

feats > statements always
 


Why the hell is Infinity Hulk wounded by clearly weaker characters? Infinity Ultron treated Captain Marvel as a toy and only got some brief scratches from her at worst and it's made clear that he let her attack her just screw with her but Hulk with the power of all the Stones can actually harmed by lower zombies and Zombie Thor?
 
Difference being is that Spidey is consistently treated and shown being closer to Super Soldiers that are shown 99% of the time tier 9 to 8 feats
 
ArkhamDC06 said:


Why the hell is Infinity Hulk wounded by clearly weaker characters? Infinity Ultron treated Captain Marvel as a toy and only got some brief scratches from her at worst and it's made clear that he let her attack her just screw with her but Hulk with the power of all the Stones can actually harmed by lower zombies and Zombie Thor?
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Stormbreaker Infinity Stone level agenda rises again
 
ArkhamDC06 said:
Why the hell is Infinity Hulk wounded by clearly weaker characters? Infinity Ultron treated Captain Marvel as a toy and only got some brief scratches from her at worst and it's made clear that he let her attack her just screw with her but Hulk with the power of all the Stones can actually harmed by lower zombies and Zombie Thor?
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Glass canon ? It’s stated in the show that’s infinite power Thanos ith it would’ve ended the universe Wanda recreated the world etc

It honestly doesn’t make sense why he was so fodder
 
darkphantom9805 said:
Glass canon ? It’s stated in the show that’s infinite power Thanos ith it would’ve ended the universe Wanda recreated the world etc

It honestly doesn’t make sense why he was so fodder
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I guess the explanation could be that the Stones were destroyed and he just got their residual energy and not the full package which I guess is also why he doesn't show really specific ability (Zombie Thanos could learn how to be more versatile and use specific powers from them in instants and even learned to raise zombies, don't tell me Post-Ragnarok Hulk wouldn't be able to learn how to use more advanced abilities as well)

Still, even though I'm not the biggest Hulk fan (and is actually happy about him being trounced by Zeus in the comics), it feels weird
 
ArkhamDC06 said:
I guess the explanation could be that the Stones were destroyed and he just got their residual energy and not the full package which I guess is also why he doesn't show really specific ability (Zombie Thanos could learn how to be more versatile and use specific powers from them in instants and even learned to raise zombies, don't tell me Post-Ragnarok Hulk wouldn't be able to learn how to use more advanced abilities as well)
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Nah because it’s stated the energy infinity stone wave was infinite power it literally tore apart reality in the explosion also I thought it said he absorbed all of it but can’t remember

I really have no clue why he was so fodder
 
I do like how each new series/universe shows new abilities from the Stones, particulary the Reality Stone. Here, Thanos uses it to raise zombies (so Necromancy) and Captain Carter used it to create clones for herself in season 2 (so Duplication)
 
Also namor broke out what was called a hulk containment center and he gave immense effort to the ten rings and Kamala kahn even cracking her crystals
 
honestly depending how ultron destroyed the planet it would just be about low 6-B for Wanda
 
darkphantom9805 said:
Wait so Wanda survived this right

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Does that mean

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Or no
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It's a different version.

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In the scene where Strange summons the zombies, a Zombie Captain America appears, similar to the one from Marvel Zombies. However, unless we assume that all zombies have planetary-level durability, which would consequently upscale every other character in the series, this isn’t viable.
 
HelloThere1089 said:
Hmm. Thanks for the clarification. Has there been any instance where a character after the split does a feat that is better than any mainline feat however there is no instance of the character training or getting stronger after the split? How would this situation be treated?
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I don't know, maybe... probably?

It would probably be disregarded? The way the Multiverse works a split happens because something deviates enough. It's not just minor changes, it's big ones. There's universes with completely different laws of physics. After a split anything can happen.
 
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