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One Piece General Discussion: Elbaph

Nobody cares if they aren't scaling as high as they did before.

We care that we have to remake calculations once a month because of bs reasons.

We can't make earthquake calcs cause the planet isn't earth.
That is stupid.
Agreed. 🙏
 
Simple question is this: How many cals are you going to call wrong with no recalcs until you're putting everyone at Unknown?

If you want to downgrade something, or say X Calc is wrong, it should be a REQUIREMENT to replace the damn thing, or part of scaling.

It's tiring to see some Calc is wrong thread and when asked what the replacement is It's always just "UHHHHHHH UMMMMMMMMMMM ThAtS fOr AnOtHeR tHrEaD!" And then that "other thread" is just trying to use another existing Calc in the laziest way possible.
Also agreed. Just destructively going dead earth "burn it all down" over verses, especially one of our absolutely most important verses, is completely unacceptable. We need replacement calculations for the feats in question. 🙏
 
on one side unpopular verses get away with wank since no one wants to check out & debunk their stuff while popular verses people wanna check out and hold accountable is denied evaluation entirely
But WHEN I make a debunk thread for an unpopular verse I get hate, make it make sense mate, nobodies targeting One Piece. The calcs are bad, but it's okay because we can fix them.
 
nobodies targeting One Piece.
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The calcs are bad,
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but it's okay because we can fix them.
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"The calc's aren't bad he says", he was then debunked 100298929249 times
They said we can't calculate an earthquake calculation because it was a different ground.
They said we can't calculate a cloud calculation because the sky was different.
They said we can't calculate big islands because of artstyles.

Before you offer to help a verse, take like 10 minutes to actually look at the problems in the verse.
 
They said we can't calculate an earthquake calculation because it was a different ground.
They said we can't calculate a cloud calculation because the sky was different.
They said we can't calculate big islands because of artstyles.
I've only seen valid debunks of the verse, and ones that usually go through sorry.
Before you offer to help a verse, take like 10 minutes to actually look at the problems in the verse.
Lol, I've looked at all of the calculations and deduced that a fair amount of them have problems, actually it's funny.

You guys ACT like victims, yet when someone poses a valid debunk all you can do it gang up on them and hate on their thread.
 
I've only seen valid debunks of the verse, and ones that usually go through sorry.

Lol, I've looked at all of the calculations and deduced that a fair amount of them have problems, actually it's funny.

You guys ACT like victims, yet when someone poses a valid debunk all you can do it gang up on them and hate on their thread.
Says the 13 MJ chair breaker
 
Says the 13 MJ chair breaker
Tokyo Revengers scaling cliffs One Piece even though half of the verses scalers don't know how to calc, also where did I say 13 MJ chair breaking. I assume it's TR related.
 
Yes, all of the relentless focus on disqualifying absolutely anything related to this verse has turned into a problem. You and others likely need to significantly shape up your behaviour in that regard, Damage. 🙏
As far as I'm concerned, i have done literally nothing wrong or against the rules here.
 
They said we can't calculate an earthquake calculation because it was a different ground.
They said we can't calculate a cloud calculation because the sky was different.
They said we can't calculate big islands because of artstyles.

Before you offer to help a verse, take like 10 minutes to actually look at the problems in the verse.
I think I already said that I'm willing to help with cloud stuff in thread but need help of someone who's knowledgeable in OP.

Felt like mentioning it also here would be useful.
 
As far as I'm concerned, i have done literally nothing wrong or against the rules here.
Not against the rules, but systematically purging the supporting structure of a verse until almost nothing is left while not leaving any alternatives has destructive consequences, so I would appreciate if you try to be considerably more reasonable in that regard. 🙏
 
Saying this when one piece legit has basically the most haters and attacks outside the wiki is insane
One Piece is likely the world's most prominent anti-fascist entertainment work right now, so naturally people who dislike such positive values and prefer the world's alternative current state of extremely authoritarian and absolutely ruthless hatred, bigotry, division, oligarchy, social Darwinism, infotainment indoctrination, constant distractions, divide and conquer tribalism and xenophobia, warmongering imperialism, and ideological madness would disapprove of it. 🙏
 
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Not against the rules, but systematically purging the supporting structure of a verse until almost nothing is left while not leaving any alternatives has destructive consequences, so I would appreciate if you try to be more reasonable in that regard. 🙏
There would still be 40 AP calculations left at least for the verse, and let's be realistic here, God Tier characters getting their ratings from scaling above lower tier characters is not unprecedented or "destructive".
 
It at least turns the verse very unreliable to systematically disqualify all of the higher end feats without helping to offer alternatives. 🙏
 
Damage, carpet bombing an entire realm of scaling and offering exactly 0 alternatives is absolutely destructive.

Like not even something as simple as "Figure out approximately how big Blue Planet is compared to earth, get it to a percentage, than upscale the average planet shaking feat to that" ya just give absolutely nothing.
 
I think I already said that I'm willing to help with cloud stuff in thread but need help of someone who's knowledgeable in OP.

Felt like mentioning it also here would be useful.
Anyone who wants to help on this topic?
 
Damage, carpet bombing an entire realm of scaling and offering exactly 0 alternatives is absolutely destructive.

Like not even something as simple as "Figure out approximately how big Blue Planet is compared to earth, get it to a percentage, than upscale the average planet shaking feat to that" ya just give absolutely nothing.
I won’t call it 0 alternatives
I mean, the op of said thread is asking the supporters, who might have detailed knowledge on what and how the planet operates, to help in make a recalculation.
I won’t speak on the preceding cases
 
I won’t call it 0 alternatives
I mean, the op of said thread is asking the supporters, who might have detailed knowledge on what and how the planet operates, to help in make a recalculation.
I won’t speak on the preceding cases
"Hey find the physics of an entire planet in a manga" is not an alternative. It's saying "I don't want to put in the effort to do things properly, find out yourselves!"

Edit: no shots at Floxy, since he HAS actually shown a willingness to learn and help, but jeezus ****
 
One Piece is likely the world's most prominent anti-fascist entertainment work right now, so naturally people who dislike such positive values and prefer the world's alternative current state of extremely authoritarian and absolutely ruthless hatred, division, oligarchy, social Darwinism, infotainment indoctrination, constant distractions, divide and conquer tribalism and xenophobia, warmongering imperialism, and ideological madness would disapprove of it. 🙏
Are you into politics? Because most of what you are saying are words most wouldn't really understand I feel like 🙈😅
 
"Hey find the physics of an entire planet in a manga" is not an alternative. It's saying "I don't want to put in the effort to do things properly, find out yourselves!"
Except he’s willing to aid them in finding out the “Physics of the Planet”. He has asked KT for help on the thread, and now, asking y’all.
And you can’t say he’s not willing to put in the effort when you don’t even know him.
 
Except he’s willing to aid them in finding out the “Physics of the Planet”
Just post 1200 chapters of a manga, then like two dozen Vivre Cards, and try to find out from there... that's not a solution it's applying asinine standards that no other verse is subject to. Like I said, no full shots at Floxy, but you don't put one of a dozen torpedoes into a ship and be shocked when the captain and his two Lieutenants get pissed at you for helping sink it.
And you can’t say he’s not willing to put in the effort when you don’t even know him.
People have walls. The discussion thread is open.

You can like... discuss it here instead of going forward with a thread nobody is ready for. This is the sort of thread that takes months of time and effort, ASSUMING that it actually becomes a standard in the first place.
 
Just post 1200 chapters of a manga, then like two dozen Vivre Cards, and try to find out from there... that's not a solution it's applying asinine standards that no other verse is subject to. Like I said, no full shots at Floxy, but you don't put one of a dozen torpedoes into a ship and be shocked when the captain and his two Lieutenants get pissed at you for helping sink it.
If the ship was held together by duct tape and cardboard then it seems only right to point out the issues with it. Whether the ship sinks or gets repaired shouldn't just depend on the person who points out the issues.
 
"Hey find the physics of an entire planet in a manga" is not an alternative.
? My request is something relatively simple like "at what height snow forms in OP due to temp change with altitude?"

I even messaged KT on discord about it, got no response. How should I fix stuff of verse I know almost nothing about?
 
If the ship was held together by duct tape and cardboard then it seems only right to point out the issues with it.
If the ship works, it works... Doesn't matter the quality, destroying the ship all together just makes everyone stranded on the sea 🐵
 
at what height snow forms in OP due to temp change with altitude
uhhh... Impossible to know I think, there's sky islands and elbaph (Same on drum island mountains) where the temperature doesn't seem to get cold/colder with those altitudes (there's air shortages tho 🐵)
 
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uhhh... Impossible to know I think, there's sky islands and elbaph where the temperature doesn't seem to get cold with those altitudes (there's air shortages tho 🐵)
Not necessarily that example, I just need to know how temperature drops with altitude. But that can also work I think.

Is it 33k feet above blue sea or 56k feet?

Edit: max height of a mountain that doesn't have snow on top of it can also work I guess? But that'll be a lowball. Oh, that can still give higher result compared to air shortage end based on height of mountain you mentioned.
 
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