Yu (The Boxer) Vs John Fart

[Bobsican]

IDK how this apparently works, but may as well

Speed equalized, John Fart has a maximized inventory of burritos and cabbages

Boxer: 1: @Pyro9278

Farter: 5: @Baken384 , @azontr , @Bobsican , @BoastJr, @EmbalmerMaster9000

 

[EmbalmerMaster9000]

John fart needs INFINITE BURRITOS AND CABBAGES

 

[azontr]

So first off Yu is capable of accurately determining the toughness and weakness of materials via info analysis, as shown in his fight against John Taker. So instantly he will know that John Farts body is too tough for him to conventionally damage, leading for him to instantly lead with Monster Stance as well as Limited Dura neg. In this fight he isn't being influenced by K to perform any different tactics or strategies, so his first instinct is simply to immediately go in for the kill.

Monster Stance, for the record, is such an incredible speed boost that it can super blitz even people with slow-mo perception like Yu's. And he can spam it however he likes and chain it into any of his attacks, which means along with subsonic movement speed, Yu is going to be dancing around the area and on John Fart before he can react.

Since Monster Stance is a dashing attack that means it can cross the distance far faster than Yu's punching speed, which is 109 m/s at the very, very least, and Mach 5 at the highest. The Player is average human speed, so basically that means Yu hyper blitzes just with raw movement and attack speed. And Yu is the faster opponent so he's allowed to do this in speed equal.

This all basically means that Yu will be blitzing John Fart to hell and back, and hitting John Fart with attacks that can basically cause insta-death if they hit the right spot in the right way, letting Yu basically stop The Player's heart with a precisely targeted blow, disregarding the AP difference. All in all, I think Yu stomps pretty easily.

 

[EmbalmerMaster9000]

Voting Yu. It's sad to say but I don't think my GOAT has this. Yu knows about the Travel Speed meta, meaning that John Fart cannot hit Yu at all.

 

[Baken384]

John Fart Attack advantages:
Decent AOE
- John Fart Attack's base attack, albeit needs build up with burrito can achieve this level of area of effect. This can make Yu The Boxer's approach to John Fart Attack to be difficult, but the caveat is as mentioned needs to build up his fart meter with the burrito, so the time John Fart Attack is building up fart energy is the exact moment Yu The Boxer can close the distance.

Variety of AOE Abilities
- While John Fart Attack's base attack needs to build up his fart energy, his energy to use special abilities builds up so much faster and easier, allowing access to effective abilities that will allow him to give him time to prepare his aoe.
First is Fartnado, an ability that allows John Fart to send a tornado of fart, once caught in its range, they are sent tumbling around the tornado until it dissipates, if Yu The Boxer is hit, this gives John Fart more ground to move away.

Second is Poopnami
- You can say this is even more effective than Fartnado because Poopnami covers huge distances in terms of aoe, while not as spamamble as Fartnado, with a full energy, If i recall John Fart can send two or three poonamis, greatly amplifying his defense

Third is Poop Nuke
- admittedly the strongest arsenal of aoe for John Fart, it does take some time yet it gives Yu The Boxer a choice if he was close to John Fart to continue the offense or suffer the consequence of poop nuke

Fourth is Fartquake
- The equalizer ability, if caught in its vicinity, you are essentially "shaken" by the earthquake, so its like a mini stun, if Yu The Boxer is caught in here, John Fart Attack is able to with his kill shot move like Poop Hammer or Blowout
Variety of Versatile Abilities

• John Fart Attack is not limited to AOE Abilities, but also utility abilities such as Silent But Deadly (Turns him partially invisible and gives him a movement speed), Gas Mask that allows John Fart to not only be immune to the farts, but most importantly face tanks Poop Hammer without knockback
• John Fart Attack has movement options such as cropduster that will allow him to temporarily fly and knock anyone away from him, useful tool to get away from Yu The Boxer

Kill Shot Abilities
- John Fart Attack has two moves that would just kill Yu The Boxer, his Poop Hammer (HIgh 8-C) and Blowout, these needs to be used carefully, especially the former since it takes a lot of energy, but with the help of Fartquake, he can destabilize yu the boxer to land it

Voting Yu. It's sad to say but I don't think my GOAT has this. Yu knows about the Travel Speed meta, meaning that John Fart cannot hit Yu at all.

fakedemon for john fart

 

[azontr]

A lot of, if not all of this stuff takes time to charge via consuming an energy source. Yu is literally seeing John Fart as a statue the entire time, and he has a stance that can go even faster that he can spam to literally dance around the arena (he can literally zoom across boxing rings like a f*cking speedster or smth). Meanwhile John Fart doesn't even see wth is happening because he's literally diabolically slow fodder.

 

[Bobsican]

Perception time is fun and all, but it's still perception time, Yu is still physically moving at the same speed. The standard distance between him and John Fart per SBA does also give John Fart the initial advantage by being given more time to act, while Yu has to bother getting close given the range stat gap, John Fart appears to even have the capability to retain his distance from Yu by flying with Crop Duster, which even pushes foes away while using it thanks to the power of farts.

 

[azontr]

Yu is still physically moving at the same speed

It's not just perceptions it is also his reaction speed. And he can boost his travel speed beyond his own perception with monster stance and chain it into other attacks. In this key that's like Hypersonic travel with Monster Stance, since it's a dashing attack. He's closing that distance instantly. We've seen him basically going speedster across the ring, and he can also adapt to start boosting his travel speed to that as well because he started speed blitzing Aaron's punches again after getting blitzed initially.

 

[Bobsican]

Well, reaction speed is notable, sure, but given that it's far more limited compared to combat speed by definition that doesn't change much here, after all this isn't a fight involving two characters with only standard melee range. That said, the profile in the speed section doesn't mention travel speed, so that'd require a CRT, but if you mean the attack speed with certain moves that enable to compensate on that, that also limits Yu's options as then he can't travel that fast without using a specific attack for this purpose, which is something John Fart can capitalize on.

 

[Epiccheev]

John Fart will last about as long as the smell of his farts will linger.

 

[azontr]

Well, reaction speed is notable, sure, but given that it's far more limited compared to combat speed by definition that doesn't change much here, after all this isn't a fight involving two characters with only standard melee range. That said, the profile in the speed section doesn't mention travel speed, so that'd require a CRT, but if you mean the attack speed with certain moves that enable to compensate on that, that also limits Yu's options as then he can't travel that fast without using a specific attack for this purpose, which is something John Fart can capitalize on.

It's not specifically mentioned but it is clearly implied. Monster Stance is a dashing attack across a wide distance, meaning it involves travel speed inherently, and it goes much faster than Yu's standard punching speed. I would probably have to add the fact that he can also generally just dash at that speed to the profile via CRT, tho. The edibles revealing to me shi i ain't even notice

 

[Bobsican]

TBH that's the best part of Vs threads, finding little stuff that's missing.

Anyways, I have nothing more to add, voting for John Fart for now.

 

[azontr]

Ig until I make that specific CRT I'd have to say John Fart wins, but when it happens Yu does actually stomp most likely. But incomplete profile. Farter claims a "win" in a dishonorable manner.

 

[Epiccheev]

Imagining Yu getting blow out of the ring by a fart while mantaining his serious face and deadpan look is quite the visual.

 

[Arkansalter2]

John Fart can eat burritos EXTREMELY quickly. As fast as the user can click. Same with cabbages. John Fart will def ability spam to hell and back.
SBD would make John Fart face tank everything Yu has.
Fartquake would just psuedo paralyze Yu and just get slammed by poo hammer.

Yu doesn't have any ranged abilities so he won't be able to close the distance. He's gonna have to make his way through the various sheit turds, fart nados, doo-doo bombs, fart nukes, and all that type of stuff just to try to touch John Fart, and even that won't work because of Crop Duster which basically knocks away anybody nearby.
John Fart is easily taking this purely because he outranges by a lot and out-powers by a lot.
John fart, low-mid diff.

 

[azontr]

Mf using game mechanics as an argument is insane

 

[Bobsican]

To be fair, given John Fart's cartoony body proportions, his mouth is decently big and should be capable of eating several burritos quickly, unless they're relatively big or something I guess.

 

[Arkansalter2]

I'm not kidding. He literally just insta-eats.

 

[azontr]

Bro that is a game mechanic that avatar doesn't even have a dang mouth

 

[Arkansalter2]

Bro that is a game mechanic

Trying to argue everything is a game mechanic. He literally amps himself like that.

that avatar doesn't even have a dang mouth

And that matters why? That's irrelevant. It's a scan for a reason and it shows how fast he can amp himself.

 

[azontr]

I'm saying the only way this argument works is if you assume John Fart magically absorbs his items into his body instead of eating and chewing them. There is literally a chewing noise my G. Tf you think it is.

 

[Arkansalter2]

There is literally a chewing noise my G. Tf you think it is.

And my man just eats it instantly. He literally inhaled it basically.
Hell, the burrito doesn't even have to hit him because as soon as the burrito spawns, he just gains more power like that.

 

[azontr]

Bro do you think they are gonna animate the entire chewing and swallowing animation proces?. That is why the sounds are there. The intent is obviously that the character is going through the process, however fast it may be, of chewing and swallowing food.

 

[Arkansalter2]

The intent is obviously that the character is going through the process, however fast it may be, of chewing and swallowing food.

Still irrelevant as he basically eats it instantly, amping him instantly. I don't know what point you're trying to prove here but it's not working.

 

[Arkansalter2]

Yu after accidentally stepping on a poop mine that John Fart decided to place:

 

[azontr]

"Nuh uh" is not an argument bruh are we deadass

 

[Arkansalter2]

"Nuh uh" is not an argument bruh are we deadass

Idk what to tell you. John Fart is just like that I guess.

 

[Epiccheev]

I'm not kidding. He literally just insta-eats.

Did he just fart... books?

 

[Arkansalter2]

Did he just fart... books?

Yes. Player can fart regular, cheese, books, or even little versions of their avatar.

 

[Epiccheev]

Fartastic

 

[BoastJr]

John Fart Attack just slams FRA

 

[EmbalmerMaster9000]

Did he just fart... books?

Yes. Player can fart regular, cheese, books, or even little versions of their avatar.

That, + money (this gives them extra money btw), fire that sets enemies on fire, electricity, sharts, and even farts that transmute the opponent into certain things.

 

[Pyro9278]

Yu FRA

 

[EmbalmerMaster9000]

 

[AthelChan]

2nd fart match i've seen.

 

[EmbalmerMaster9000]

erm.... switching my vote to John Fart FRA....

 

[azontr]

Okay before the match goes down this FRA train I need to actually address these arguments.

For one, The Player still doesn't instantly absorb the burritos and cabbages he needs to use most of his attacks. It was never disproved that this was a game mechanic, all that was said was basically "nuh uh", so until this is proved as something beyond a game mechanic, John Fart still has to physically chew and swallow his resources. There is literally an audible chewing sound, it doesn't need to be spelled out that this is a game mechanic that can't be used. Game mechanics are different from in minecraft where they are explicitly a canon part of how the world works, so in this scenario, you can't just say he instant absorbs the items. I am also pretty sure you can't give him literally infinite cabbages since that's not a thing you can purchase or own in game, so this would have to be a fun and games thread. You could only technically give him the maximum number of burritos that he can purchase in game.

For two, the actual range of John Farts AoE attacks. Maybe they were just f*cking with me, but I'm told that his biggest attack, the poop nuke, only has a radius of ten meters. And I was also shown that it literally casts a shadow and falls from the sky. So if his other attacks are significantly smaller than this, then Yu is going to have no issue avoiding them. I would need actual specific metrics on how large the attacks are, but since there's no value on the profile and I've only been told this, I'm going to assume his attacks cap out at 10 meters. Yu just needs a quick burst of speed with Monster Stance to get out of the way of any of these attacks, something he can do by just leaning a bit. To land any of this stuff it would basically need to be at point-blank range and would have to move faster than Yu's reactions to be able to hit him before he moves out of the way, but Yu's reactions literally scale above Hypersonic, so.

John Fart needs to get passed these two hurtles before he can hope to actually win the fight, because if he can't he will just kinda be blowing farts into the wind while Yu zooms around him. I'd like people to examine the match in just a bit more detail before they decide to vote.

 

[Arkansalter2]

It was never disproved that this was a game mechanic, all that was said was basically "nuh uh", so until this is proved as something beyond a game mechanic, John Fart still has to physically chew and swallow his resources.

And again, we've stated so multiple times, he just amps himself. He just eat the burrito and grows. That's it. The chewing sound is for aesthetic purposes. But you basically missed the entire point of him not even chewing and it still amps him. He can eat a bunch of these at once. So the chewing would just be irrelevant. He can use these burritos and cabbages as fast as player wants so theoretically, he should be able to amp himself really fast. It's not game mechanics if it's true to the player.

You could only technically give him the maximum number of burritos that he can purchase in game.

Which would just be hella nines so it'll be theoretically infinite. Player can get more burritos via microtransactions so theoretically, player can have as much as he wants.

For two, the actual range of John Farts AoE attacks. Maybe they were just f*cking with me, but I'm told that his biggest attack, the poop nuke, only has a radius of ten meters.

And it's spammable with no cooldown.

So if his other attacks are significantly smaller than this, then Yu is going to have no issue avoiding them

All of his moves are spammable with no cooldown with the only actual cooldown is the cabbages in which he can eat extremely quickly, as fast as the player could click. This is a literal f***ing player insert for crying out loud. He can do that.

 

[Arkansalter2]

2nd fart match i've seen.

One two, skip a few.

 

[azontr]

And again, we've stated so multiple times, he just amps himself. He just eat the burrito and grows. That's it. The chewing sound is for aesthetic purposes. But you basically missed the entire point of him not even chewing and it still amps him. He can eat a bunch of these at once. So the chewing would just be irrelevant. He can use these burritos and cabbages as fast as player wants so theoretically, he should be able to amp himself really fast. It's not game mechanics if it's true to the player.

None of this is an argument. Saying "he just does this" instead of proving why we would assume this is what happens over the much more reasonable conclusion that this is just a game mechanic (which it is) does nothing but make me have to keep repeating it over and over until it gets into your skull. If you had literally any other argument than this, I would address it, but if you just repeat the exact same thing I am just going to have to ignore this. If you want to get this added so badly then make a CRT to add absorption to the player's profile instead of spouting this nonsense, but I would assure you that it is not going to be accepted.

Which would just be hella nines so it'll be theoretically infinite. Player can get more burritos via microtransactions so theoretically, player can have as much as he wants.

Microtransactions would also be a game mechanic. He can only be given as many items as he can theoretically hold in game, and if we don't know the exact max, then that's just some unquantifiable number. Go play Fart Attack and get back to me with how many items he can carry at maximum.

And it's spammable with no cooldown.

It's still a giant sh*t ball that falls slowly (from Yu's perspective at least) from the sky, lol, it's not hard to avoid if you just run I'm ngl.

All of his moves are spammable with no cooldown with the only actual cooldown is the cabbages in which he can eat extremely quickly, as fast as the player could click. This is a literal f***ing player insert for crying out loud. He can do that.

The more he spams them the easier it's going to be for Yu to avoid them in the future as he will always be adapting and figuring out the extent of John Farts effective range. This still doesn't address the fact that even initially the only way these attacks can land is if they somehow outspeed Yu or happen directly in front of him, but that's never going to happen.