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Miraculous Ladybug General Discussion 2

Suigetsuhyugs said:
I know Ladybug learned some stuff and so did Adrien, but that's hand to hand combat how the hell are you going to describe her in combat on how she uses a Yo-Yo as a sort of marcial art? Or worse stuff like a freaking horse shoe, a rope, a lyre, a pen ect. Also the miraculous holders just apparently became masters on the use of their weapon as soon as they turn, without any trainning whatsoever, overall they also became good at hand to hand combat.
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i mean not adding all feats she performed just the best scenes she got such as this



and this

 
Lort15 said:
finished it besides a few minor spelling mistake, everything is done.
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Shadybug

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General:

Spoiler Warning is pointless. Her only appearance is on a special released two years ago.

I don't have a problem with Edgynette scaling to Marinette, but the wording in the profile makes it seems is she who's making all this stuff when she's not.
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This isn't an ability.

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Tikki only meant that Marinette's antics when she uses her powers to solve her personal problems always ends up in more problemas. The onlly thing we know about Ladybug's magical luck is that she has it.
  • Magical Object Creation(Comparable, if not superior, to Ladybug, the Miraculous of the Ladybug allows her to create magical objects. Unlike Ladybug in seasons 1–5, she has absolute control over Lucky Charm and can choose the upcoming object. Shadybug, on the other hand, uses her Lucky Charms offensively in combat, such as creating a rocket launcher to blast her opponents, or weapons like swords and blasters etc.)
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All Lucky Charms are random. They just give her what she needs.
 
Monkey_Dunno said:
General:

Spoiler Warning is pointless. Her only appearance is on a special released two years ago.
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It's a character from later season it's fine
Monkey_Dunno said:
I don't have a problem with Edgynette scaling to Marinette, but the wording in the profile makes it seems is she who's making all this stuff when she's not.
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That's why i said almost except mino spelling shit
Monkey_Dunno said:
This isn't an ability.
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I could write that to her weakness section but it would be long so ı've made it
Monkey_Dunno said:
Tikki only meant that Marinette's antics when she uses her powers to solve her personal problems always ends up in more problemas. The onlly thing we know about Ladybug's magical luck is that she has it.
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Nah like using Ladybug miraculous for personal reasons really doesn't bring any luck to Ladybug in show the miraculous must be used for greater good
Monkey_Dunno said:
All Lucky Charms are random. They just give her what she needs.
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No? Literally she knew the upcoming object from lucky charm because she wanted "butterfly tracker" she wasn't surprised they can choose the lucky charm if they want or they can leave the choice to power itself
 
Monkey_Dunno said:
General:

Spoiler Warning is pointless. Her only appearance is on a special released two years ago.

I don't have a problem with Edgynette scaling to Marinette, but the wording in the profile makes it seems is she who's making all this stuff when she's not.

This isn't an ability.
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What about that it absorbs energy not just from her, but the Kwami also? Or that her evil purposes overrode the system?
 
Lort15 said:
Nah like using Ladybug miraculous for personal reasons really doesn't bring any luck to Ladybug in show the miraculous must be used for greater good
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Miraculouses being used for the greater good is a moral stance. Not a functional feature. Miraculouses have, can, are and will be used for objectively morally evil acts.
Lort15 said:
No? Literally she knew the upcoming object from lucky charm because she wanted "butterfly tracker" she wasn't surprised they can choose the lucky charm if they want or they can leave the choice to power itself
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She didn’t wanted a Butterfly Pheromones tracker, she wanted something that helped her locate Betterfly. For that matter, she didn’t knew Betterfly had released Ubiquity’s Kamiko.
Imaginym said:
What about that it absorbs energy not just from her, but the Kwami also?
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Powers requiring energy to be used isn’t an ability.
 
Monkey_Dunno said:
Miraculouses being used for the greater good is a moral stance. Not a functional feature. Miraculouses have, can, are and will be used for objectively morally evil acts.
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that's not just moral stance for holders as we seen child's using their superpowers for evil purposes slowly dies bcs of the miraculous, they ovveride the security system itself ladybug's magical luck is similiar to that if it is used for greater good it works otherwise it doesn!t work
Monkey_Dunno said:
She didn’t wanted a Butterfly Pheromones tracker, she wanted something that helped her locate Betterfly. For that matter, she didn’t knew Betterfly had released Ubiquity’s Kamiko.
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how is releasing ubiquity's kamiko is relevant to shadybug's lucky charm choosing? like butterflys are coming to him she knows vesperia need one to use his power she might thought hesperia could get one more with his limited animal manipulation and she literally wanted it and got it from lucky charm if she didn't know she would control it about what it is suppost to be, meanwhile she wasn't surprised she was literally aware from it's ability
Monkey_Dunno said:
Powers requiring energy to be used isn’t an ability.
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the miraculous absorps vital energy from her literally and it's a weakness it's okay to be changed but i will write that to her weakness section
 
Lort15 said:
that's not just moral stance for holders as we seen child's using their superpowers for evil purposes slowly dies bcs of the miraculous
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The security system in the Miraculouses doesn’t blocks the powers. They are done so the holder don’t put themselves at risk when they don’t have the physical energy to sustain the transformation. Theorically, Shadybug and Claw Noir would not suffer no ill effects if they actually limited themselves to use their powers once per transformation during a limited amount of time.
Lort15 said:
ladybug's magical luck is similiar to that if it is used for greater good it works otherwise it doesn!t work
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This isn’t a thing.
Lort15 said:
how is releasing ubiquity's kamiko is relevant to shadybug's lucky charm choosing? like butterflys are coming to him
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One Butterfly is coming to him. The same he used for Ubiquity.

We know that the Butterfly Miraculous can create its own. Ladyfly actually does this on the same special.

Lort15 said:
and she literally wanted it and got it from lucky charm if she didn't know she would control it about what it is suppost to be
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Because she actually checked it, she herself says that it’s a "Butterfly Tracker… kind of”, which she wouldn’t say if she went from the get go with that on mind.

Lort15 said:
meanwhile she wasn't surprised she was literally aware from it's ability
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The Lucky Charm isn’t always cryptic. Multibug was already counting from the get go that she'll get an object that would stop Kwamibuster akuma from fleeting, Bugnoire wasn't surprised by none of the Lucky Charms she got in her fight against Monarch nor on several episodes on Season 6 despite that episodes like Sublimation make abudantly clear that the Lucky Charm points to her at something she isn't aware of. They are random objects that serves a need.
 
Cipher333 said:


Thoughts on this powerscaling on MIraculous Highest arguments
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Have seen this guy and I have noticed that he lurks around here.

Agree to disagree with the points presenting here. Just Youtube Scaling culture.

Ladybug one taping Goku is fun tho.

Pixelator's thingy can be looked further, but honestly not even sure from where the source is so w/e.
 
its fun how Miraculous verse can be scaled as high as Multiversal or higher despite the consensus on where the verse scales is controversial
 
Monkey_Dunno said:
The security system in the Miraculouses doesn’t blocks the powers. They are done so the holder don’t put themselves at risk when they don’t have the physical energy to sustain the transformation. Theorically, Shadybug and Claw Noir would not suffer no ill effects if they actually limited themselves to use their powers once per transformation during a limited amount of time.

This isn’t a thing.

One Butterfly is coming to him. The same he used for Ubiquity.

We know that the Butterfly Miraculous can create its own. Ladyfly actually does this on the same special.


Because she actually checked it, she herself says that it’s a "Butterfly Tracker… kind of”, which she wouldn’t say if she went from the get go with that on mind.


The Lucky Charm isn’t always cryptic. Multibug was already counting from the get go that she'll get an object that would stop Kwamibuster akuma from fleeting, Bugnoire wasn't surprised by none of the Lucky Charms she got in her fight against Monarch nor on several episodes on Season 6 despite that episodes like Sublimation make abudantly clear that the Lucky Charm points to her at something she isn't aware of. They are random objects that serves a need.
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sorry for the delay about my reply, i've got an unexpected funeral at the moment so i don't have morals to reply about all the reply of yours, you can do the changes whenever i release all the profiles just mention them on the crt i will be making, i need to work on claw noir and betterfly so after that i will go for other heroes. I might not be able to help after those profiles are finished or during making them because of personal stuffs, i hope you guys keep making more calcs and profiles for other characters thanks for your help.
 
15 more hrs for new episode. Can't wait for my boi Adrien, my bro needs his justice, everyone's been lying to him. I want him to get to know the truth about his dad. Bro's left alone in the dark by lb. Btw isn't it only luka (Bunnix is exceptional) who knows about adrien's chat noir identity. I need some for him too like alya for marinette, tho i hate alya. She doesn't qualify for next gaurdian. Luka is more perfect for this shit.
Alright enough of my rant.
 
TWILIGHT-OP said:
15 more hrs for new episode. Can't wait for my boi Adrien, my bro needs his justice, everyone's been lying to him. I want him to get to know the truth about his dad. Bro's left alone in the dark by lb. Btw isn't it only luka (Bunnix is exceptional) who knows about adrien's chat noir identity. I need some for him too like alya for marinette, tho i hate alya. She doesn't qualify for next gaurdian. Luka is more perfect for this shit.
Alright enough of my rant.
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I really don't support Marinette about the ile he told to Adrien but i can understand her, the truth is too harsh for Adrien if she tell the truth the only person in his life besides mari will be in jail, Nathalie and yes nobody knows Adrien's secret identity except Luka, ı love Alya but she doesn't really fit for the guardian of the miraculous, ı hope Luka becomes the next guardian also ı'm very excited that why luka used second chance while talking with Marinette.
 
I just want one more ep like chat blanc. Idc what happen i just want this shit to happen once more.😭
 
Mister Agreste ep was one more episode with marinette keeping secrets. And yeah I still hate her for this. Atleast now both Luka and Adrien knows about each other's identity. That one one good thing.
 
Was not expecting a Keith Silverstein to reprise his role in that episode. Especially in an akumatization process
 
TWILIGHT-OP said:
Mister Agreste ep was one more episode with marinette keeping secrets. And yeah I still hate her for this. Atleast now both Luka and Adrien knows about each other's identity. That one one good thing.
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I wonder what was Luka gonna do with her miraculous?
 
Lort15 said:
I wonder what was Luka gonna do with her miraculous?
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Well, most likely relieve her from her duties 🤔 and tell adrien himself. She's gatekeeping too many things that's shouldn't be only limited to her only, she thinks she's right yet she's is always wrong.
 
TWILIGHT-OP said:
Well, most likely relieve her from her duties 🤔 and tell adrien himself. She's gatekeeping too many things that's shouldn't be only limited to her only, she thinks she's right yet she's is always wrong.
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He said he will fix everything and he told mari that he knows something she doesn't he was really gonna do smth different
 
I've got 2 fav, Adrien/chat and Chloe. Tbh, i really want her to get back in show. It's kinda boring without her. Aside from chat, her transformation is cool asf. 🔥
 
TWILIGHT-OP said:
I've got 2 fav, Adrien/chat and Chloe. Tbh, i really want her to get back in show. It's kinda boring without her. Aside from chat, her transformation is cool asf. 🔥
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chloe was so annoying during season 4-5 idk how u could stand her 😭
 
Lort15 said:
for me she is just a spoiled brat that isn't even smart a bit, blud gets manipulated by everyone literally 💀
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It's just no one really understood her, the only only one who truly understood her was adrien, and none. Talking about brat, was cuz of her sassy aah mother if she was given proper love and care, she and Adrien would've been same in personality. Although you could argue that Adrien got the best personality out of all despite not getting same love and affection from his loved one either. Tho her father was a great guy, i can give you that, since she left the show, it's kinda feels empty without her.
 
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