Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

[Buraqibear]

remove the capitalization from higher, and Triceratops should be just "even higher" not likely higher since she is stronger than Gorilla mode

Too bad we never actually got to see it do anything since it immediately got Kashimo'd

 

[Chariot190]

He got mad because he thought I was downgrade something because I wanted to and that there wasn't anything wrong about it. The feat was wrong and by "I only care ab out downgrading it" I mean it mattered as long as the value was rectified and lowered. Saying that It might affect future matchups was just to defend my stand

It took me over a minute to even remember who you were or what you were talking about, which should give you an idea how little effected me emotionally given I forgot about it like an hour later.
Calling you out doesnt make me mad, it means do better next time and stop that shit.

 

[Buraqibear]

It took me over a minute to even remember who you were or what you were talking about, which should give you an idea how little effected me emotionally given I forgot about it like an hour later.
Calling you out doesnt make me mad, it means do better next time and stop that shit.

Getting mad at something doesn't mean you have to remember it and again, you completely misunderstood what my point was. There's no point in just dwelling over what doesn't even matter anymore so just leave this behind

 

[Chariot190]

Getting mad at something doesn't mean you have to remember it and again, you completely misunderstood what my point was. There's no point in just dwelling over what doesn't even matter anymore so just leave this behind

You're putting yourself on a pedestal there lad, grossly overestimating how much anyone actually cares about this hobby, it isnt that serious to get mad over.
It was legitimately not worth the effort to get mad over, there's more important things to worry about like idk, if the drink I put in the freezer is cold by now or exploded. Probably the latter tbh that's gonna suck...

Your CRT lacked evidence, was mostly conjecture, disregarded the source material for your own unfounded stances despite the manga actively commenting on your proposition and shooting it down, all to culminate in that line.

Are mods mad because they call people out for suspect behavior? Are people mad because they disagree with you?
No dude you just made a vastly insufficient CRT and then said some extremely suspect shit.

Misunderstanding? Maybe but people can only react to what you wrote, if that isn't what you meant, that's on you.
Stop doubling down on it dude.

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

if the drink I put in the freezer is cold by now or exploded. Probably the latter tbh that's gonna suck...

I once forgot I put a sparkling water in the freezer and left it there. Hours later it ******* exploded inside the freezer,

 

[Chariot190]

Dude you're the one overkilling him

I will NEVER be accused of getting mad over that fraud ass mf Gojo
Todo on the other hand, i like him...

 

[Chariot190]

I once forgot I put a sparkling water in the freezer and left it there. Hours later it ******* exploded inside the freezer,

It almost exploded, it like puffed out and the top expanded...
I cant drink it now tho bros what am i gonna do im gonna die...

 

[Buraqibear]

You're putting yourself on a pedestal there lad, grossly overestimating how much anyone actually cares about this hobby, it isnt that serious to get mad over.
It was legitimately not worth the effort to get mad over, there's more important things to worry about like idk, if the drink I put in the freezer is cold by now or exploded. Probably the latter tbh that's gonna suck...

Yeah I misused the word 'mad' it wasn't that serious

Your CRT lacked evidence, was mostly conjecture, disregarded the source material for your own unfounded stances despite the manga actively commenting on your proposition and shooting it down, all to culminate in that line.
Are mods mad because they call people out for suspect behavior? Are people mad because they disagree with you?
No dude you just made a vastly insufficient CRT and then said some extremely suspect shit.

Why, isn't the point of Downgrade CRT's to downgrade stuff that is wrong? Are we supposed to ignore false calc's if they downgrade a character by a single tier? If anything, the Fuga calc being town+ or just over Large town would function as a supporting feat for Gojo's Earthquake getting downgraded.

Misunderstanding? Maybe but people can only react to what you wrote, if that isn't what you meant, that's on you.
Stop doubling down on it dude.

I put bare minimum emphasis on the "It could affect future matchups" to support the downgrade. And everyone starting saying I made the CRT to downgrade characters for matchups. I thought there was plenty of evidence, maybe not for the Gojo feat but for the rest, there was, directly from the manga as well. Should I redo it with better arguments? See, the feats I mentioned were all in fact flawed, Sukuna used the same attack in Shinjuku as he did in Shibuya, but the flames from Furnace didn't go past Malevolent Shrine's range in Shibuya since Megumi, 5 meters away was completely fine from it, so it made no sense for it to exceed the 200 meter radius in Shinjuku, especially with all the manga statements like it kills everything INSIDE the Domain, and Malevolent Shrine's slashes aren't active at the same time as the fuga, and that the explosive particles spread to every inch of the Domain, they don't go outside it and it's directly stated that he sealed the Domain airtight to not allow entry for anything except living beings.

Gojo physically causing an Earthquake wasn't in character since he just wanted to hurry up and kill Kenjaku, so he most likely used Red, which is a shockwave and his most commonly used CT attack.

I messed up a lot on the speed downgrade, but the heavy hitters should still downscale from Transonic in travel speed as Naobito was the second fastest sorcerer at the time Jujutsu High had information on Yuta to make him a special grade and Naoya outspeeding Maki when he was going transonic. But yeah, this was probably a weak argument

 

[Buraqibear]

Do people really care about getting called angry that much?

 

[Robo432343]

Do people really care about getting called angry that much?

i mean yeah if its straight up not true

 

[Buraqibear]

i mean yeah if its straight up not true

What Chariot says literally explains this, "Misunderstanding? Maybe but people can only react to what you wrote, if that isn't what you meant, that's on you."

 

[Chariot190]

Why, isn't the point of Downgrade CRT's to downgrade stuff that is wrong? Are we supposed to ignore false calc's if they downgrade a character by a single tier? If anything, the Fuga calc being town+ or just over Large town would function as a supporting feat for Gojo's Earthquake getting downgraded.

Because your points for it being wrong didnt exist?
Your points themselves were wrong.
Like ong man, you legit said
"it is a coincidence" and then said "because gege" despite everything ever saying it isnt, from where it happened (japan's plates) to even, unironically "This isn't a coincidence!" - Actual line.

And you expected people to believe that? Where's the proof, evidence?
You never posted any, you basically just concluded it was with zero backing and told everyone to ignore quite literally all the info we have on it that simultaneously rejects your the claim anyway.

Make a CRT if something is actually faulty, and make sure you have evidence for it even IF you're 100% right so we can index the truth, you didn't do that on any account. Like if I were to go downgrade Part 6 JoJo, I'm gonna be posting a slew of scans and proof showing why my claim isn't conjecture.

The rest I'm not commenting on because the same applies to them too, just checking the ch is enough to know your CRT was severely lacking in sufficient backing.

And then you say the meme and ngl nan, maybe you didnt mean that, but basically everyone thought you did guven the context and the actual statement given.

 

[OjeTheArcher15]

I will NEVER be accused of getting mad over that fraud ass mf Gojo
Todo on the other hand, i like him...

I know you like gojo but I just can't prove it

 

[OjeTheArcher15]

His CE was the highest in the history of his province, Date

Never stated

He's stated to have the greatest output in history not just his clan

 

[OjeTheArcher15]

See, the feats I mentioned were all in fact flawed, Sukuna used the same attack in Shinjuku as he did in Shibuya, but the flames from Furnace didn't go past Malevolent Shrine's range in Shibuya since Megumi, 5 meters away was completely fine from it, so it made no sense for it to exceed the 200 meter radius in Shinjuku, especially with all the manga statements like it kills everything INSIDE the Domain, and Malevolent Shrine's slashes aren't active at the same time as the fuga, and that the explosive particles spread to every inch of the Domain, they don't go outside it and it's directly stated that he sealed the Domain airtight to not allow entry for anything except living beings.

It makes perfect sense for it to pass 400m in diameter

Look at the explosion you see the blatant shockwaves reaching the buildings?

Well there's an issue with that, because Malevolent shrine slices every single thing in its domain range
Hence those buildings shouldn't exist where those shockwaves are reaching

So point wrong

Gojo physically causing an Earthquake wasn't in character since he just wanted to hurry up and kill Kenjaku, so he most likely used Red, which is a shockwave and his most commonly used CT attack.

You just changed your argument in the crt
Anyway red isn't his commonly used attack, that's blue
Y'know the ability he uses to do everything down to punching people

I messed up a lot on the speed downgrade, but the heavy hitters should still downscale from Transonic in travel speed as Naobito was the second fastest sorcerer at the time Jujutsu High had information on Yuta to make him a special grade and Naoya outspeeding Maki when he was going transonic. But yeah, this was probably a weak argument

Why?
We have straight up evidence that Yuki was made special grade without knowing zilch on her CT

Hell none of them could even get said information since bro was in Africa

Maki wasn't special grade when she fought Naoya
Hell she wasn't even on Toji level
We know how he behaves when actual special grades appear, he immediately folds

 

[OjeTheArcher15]

ngl I don't care for hakari but I don't think it's agenda to say he pretty clearly was relative to kashimo in and outside of jackpot

less so outside of it, but still was

Fairs so he would downscale from It
but it affects my agenda so that's wrong

 

[OjeTheArcher15]

Okay so I was checking the chapters trying to find the length of fuga attacks

Luckily I saw something in chapter 263 after Yujo domain broke;

Which is a real life location;

While location of malevolent shrine is in the Tokyo Opera city art gallery which is approximately 391m away from the point I located

 

[ShionAH]

Caught you guys tryna push 7C base Hakari agenda (I'm not allowing that CRT pass)

I am gonna make the CRT soon I guess.

We have several panels of him taking a bunch of Tier 7 punches, if he was Tier 8 he would combust lol

 

[Buraqibear]

Because your points for it being wrong didnt exist?
Your points themselves were wrong.
Like ong man, you legit said
"it is a coincidence" and then said "because gege" despite everything ever saying it isnt, from where it happened (japan's plates) to even, unironically "This isn't a coincidence!" - Actual line.

And you expected people to believe that? Where's the proof, evidence?
You never posted any, you basically just concluded it was with zero backing and told everyone to ignore quite literally all the info we have on it that simultaneously rejects your the claim anyway.

Make a CRT if something is actually faulty, and make sure you have evidence for it even IF you're 100% right so we can index the truth, you didn't do that on any account. Like if I were to go downgrade Part 6 JoJo, I'm gonna be posting a slew of scans and proof showing why my claim isn't conjecture.

The rest I'm not commenting on because the same applies to them too, just checking the ch is enough to know your CRT was severely lacking in sufficient backing.

And then you say the meme and ngl nan, maybe you didnt mean that, but basically everyone thought you did guven the context and the actual statement given.

The line was "This can't be a coincidence" Gojo isn't the type to just cause an Earthquake when he's clearly wanting to hurry over to Kenjaku and kill him. Sure, him using Red is more believable then it just being a coincidence but you can't act like the feat isn't vague. I gave evidence for literally everything else from the literal manga panels.

 

[ShionAH]

Gojo isn't the type to just cause an Earthquake when he's clearly wanting to hurry over to Kenjaku and kill him

I assumed the earthquake was BECAUSE he was wanting to hurry over to Kenjaku and kill him

 

[Chariot190]

The line was "This can't be a coincidence"

Yep so you, and I quote, saying "It's a coincidence", isn't gonna fly. Like that's legit your entire argument gone.

Gojo isn't the type to just cause an Earthquake when he's clearly wanting to hurry over to Kenjaku and kill him.

First half of the chapter actually sets up the fact he could and very well might emerge pissed and cause some collateral.
Given Gege and Gojo himself later says that it sucked and when we do see Gojo 15 seconds later he's straight up seething, dude probably did crash out tf out for a few seconds.

But how, why or what he did, doesn't change the fact it was still him.
The only topic of debate was what he did, not if it was secretly a coincidence and an earthquake just so happened to happen randomly when Gojo was teleported to Japan's hotspot, after setting up he might cause collateral, with the earthquake happening at the exact same time he emerged, and then saying that earthquake wasn't random and it was tied to him somehow.

Like what are we doing man?

Sure, him using Red is more believable then it just being a coincidence but you can't act like the feat isn't vague.

It being vague doesn't change it was him?
He could've done anything from Red, to flexing his muscles, to stomping his feet like a toddler throwing a tantrum, to even a huge purple nuke, none of that changes the fact he did it, how did he do it is the actual question, not IF he did it.

Instead of arguing what actually had merit, you opted to just say "ignore everything, it random".

I gave evidence for literally everything else from the literal manga panels.

Yeah and people gave counter evidence from like 5 seconds after said panels.

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Okay so I was checking the chapters trying to find the length of fuga attacks

Luckily I saw something in chapter 263 after Yujo domain broke;

Which is a real life location;

While location of malevolent shrine is in the Tokyo Opera city art gallery which is approximately 391m away from the point I located

Deadass imagine seeing your house being destroyed at random in a manga

 

[Chariot190]

Deadass imagine seeing your house being destroyed at random in a manga

Part 5-"yo the back alley street I live on was randomly featured down to even the ghetto-ass posters hung up wtf"-energy

 

[Buraqibear]

Never stated

He's stated to have the greatest output in history not just his clan

Go back to like page 1066 someone sent the emphasized translation there

I assumed the earthquake was BECAUSE he was wanting to hurry over to Kenjaku and kill him

I don't get how that works

Yep so you, and I quote, saying "It's a coincidence", isn't gonna fly. Like that's legit your entire argument gone.

First half of the chapter actually sets up the fact he could and very well might emerge pissed and cause some collateral.
Given Gege and Gojo himself later says that it sucked and when we do see Gojo 15 seconds later he's straight up seething, dude probably did crash out tf out for a few seconds.

But how, why or what he did, doesn't change the fact it was still him.
The only topic of debate was what he did, not if it was secretly a coincidence and an earthquake just so happened to happen randomly when Gojo was teleported to Japan's hotspot, after setting up he might cause collateral, with the earthquake happening at the exact same time he emerged, and then saying that earthquake wasn't random and it was tied to him somehow.

Like what are we doing man?

It being vague doesn't change it was him?
He could've done anything from Red, to flexing his muscles, to stomping his feet like a toddler throwing a tantrum, to even a huge purple nuke, none of that changes the fact he did it, how did he do it is the actual question, not IF he did it.

Instead of arguing what actually had merit, you opted to just say "ignore everything, it random".

Yeah, that was a bad move, saying that it should be removed altogether. Gojo wasn't really seething, he was clowning on Sukuna for following Kenjaku's orders and laughing, then he said "I'd win" with a smile(?) He wanted to kill Kenjaku, but he wasn't seething. Angel was the one who suggested they unseal Gojo away from crowded or closed areas, and angel has no idea of what kind of person Gojo is.

Yeah and people gave counter evidence from like 5 seconds after said panels.

Yeah, but they were wrong

 

[Buraqibear]

It makes perfect sense for it to pass 400m in diameter

Look at the explosion you see the blatant shockwaves reaching the buildings?

The shockwaves =/= the flames

Well there's an issue with that, because Malevolent shrine slices every single thing in its domain range
Hence those buildings shouldn't exist where those shockwaves are reaching

So point wrong

Bombs cause shockwaves that reach farther than their actual radius, this disproves nothing.

You just changed your argument in the crt
Anyway red isn't his commonly used attack, that's blue
Y'know the ability he uses to do everything down to punching people

Yes, I did, and Gojo uses Red at a higher, visible output more than Blue or Purple. He's used Blue like thrice, Purple thrice, and Red four or more times.

Why?
We have straight up evidence that Yuki was made special grade without knowing zilch on her CT

They clearly had to have some info to give her the rank. She doesn't go on missions that's why Kenjaku found no actual info on her.

Hell none of them could even get said information since bro was in Africa

He could report it to them

Maki wasn't special grade when she fought Naoya
Hell she wasn't even on Toji level
We know how he behaves when actual special grades appear, he immediately folds

She was physically on Toji's level. She didn't have the precog. Ngl my argument is pretty weak here I'll admit it.

 

[Chariot190]

Yeah, that was a bad move, saying that it should be removed altogether. Gojo wasn't really seething,

Bro looked like if you said the wrong word he would flip tf out.
Dude was deadass telling the lad to say his prayers.

Note how I said seething, not yelling or acting outwradly angry.

he was clowning on Sukuna for following Kenjaku's orders and laughing, then he said "I'd win" with a smile(?)

Pretty big time jump there? Why are we taking what happened later to the immediate emergence where he looks and sounds like someone just killed his dog?

He wanted to kill Kenjaku, but he wasn't seething.

Dude looked like how I look when I see someone ask where Class G for the ten frugillionth time.

Angel was the one who suggested they unseal Gojo away from crowded or closed areas, and angel has no idea of what kind of person Gojo is.

And literally everyone in that group agreed.
And man, writing.
If a mangaka, or ANY media goes out of there way to write in dialogue, it's there for a purpose. They wouldn't spent over half the chapter talking about it just for it to not be relevant. If it wasn't relevant or something the manga wants you, the reader, to have in mind, they would have never actually said it to begin with.

Yeah, but they were wrong

Everyone is wrong, and not you? Pretty sure someone literally right above your post just proved it's like 391m.

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

He's used Blue like thrice

Blue is used In every single punch and movement he does

 

[Buraqibear]

Bro looked like if you said the wrong word he would flip tf out.
Dude was deadass telling the lad to say his prayers.

Note how I said seething, not yelling or acting outwradly angry.

Pretty big time jump there? Why are we taking what happened later to the immediate emergence where he looks and sounds like someone just killed his dog?

It was like half a minute later, not that big of a jump

Dude looked like how I look when I see someone ask where Class G for the ten frugillionth time.

Idk he looked pretty "-_-" to me

And literally everyone in that group agreed.
And man, writing.
If a mangaka, or ANY media goes out of there way to write in dialogue, it's there for a purpose. They wouldn't spent over half the chapter talking about it just for it to not be relevant. If it wasn't relevant or something the manga wants you, the reader, to have in mind, they would have never actually said it to begin with.

That's because they had thought a lot more time would've passed in the prison realm probably, and they probably didn't want to risk it. I don't really get why I'm still talking about this since I admitted he caused the Earthquake

Everyone is wrong, and not you? Pretty sure someone literally right above your post just proved it's like 391m.

Yes. I can debunk that too but Oje is chill so I concede

 

[Buraqibear]

Blue is used In every single punch and movement he does

Okay, Okay, I meant like when it's actually visible.

 

[ShionAH]

I don't get how that works

???

If someone is really angry at someone and moving as fast as possible to kill them I think doing some collateral damage/affect on the way either to remove obstacles or on accident is pretty normal? Especially for someone like Gojo who is the strongest sorcerer??

 

[Robo432343]

Gojo who is the strongest sorcerer??

 

[Buraqibear]

???

If someone is really angry at someone and moving as fast as possible to kill them I think doing some collateral damage/affect on the way either to remove obstacles or on accident is pretty normal? Especially for someone like Gojo who is the strongest sorcerer??

How would an earthquake at the bottom of the sea remove obstacles He likely attacked the cursed spirit(s) around the prison realm with Red and the shockwave caused the earthquake

 

[Buraqibear]

Gojo who is the strongest sorcerer??

 

[Buraqibear]

I once forgot I put a sparkling water in the freezer and left it there. Hours later it ******* exploded inside the freezer,

Wait, people unironically actually drink sparkling water?

 

[Buraqibear]

Never stated

He's stated to have the greatest output in history not just his clan

Page 1062

 

[ShionAH]

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Notice how they said that the aliens are as dangerous as Sukuna and didn't used Gojo as a metric #fraud #weak #bornintherighttimecuzinheianerahewouldbemediocre

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

 

[MyriadOfHeartsSpiritualFlowerGarden]

any canonical explanation for why the aliens not only look human but also speak human language

not a nitpick but genuinely looking if gege came up with anything, a humanoid shape is one of the best suited for building civilizations is something to consider but the language segment is something i only cam up with an answer for by basically linking the aliens to humanity's creation a little, in my fic of course, looking for inspirtation if possible...

 

[Chariot190]

any canonical explanation for why the aliens not only look human but also speak human language

not a nitpick but genuinely looking if gege came up with anything, a humanoid shape is one of the best suited for building civilizations is something to consider but the language segment is something i only cam up with an answer for by basically linking the aliens to humanity's creation a little, in my fic of course, looking for inspirtation if possible...

The aliens were the Jujutsu Kaisen all along