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Meliodas vs Monkey D. Luffy [19-2-0]

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Luffy ha resistance negation.

Luffy would literally just turn it into rubber, nullifying its effects.
LMAO that’s crazy bro

Can you show him negating EE ?

Message to Kaydee:
Never again with those One piece vs threads it’s always the same they wank the shit out of their characters.

Bro realised Luffy was not « beating the brakes out of Meliodas » at all
 
i mean the EE is AOE based so theres a chance it can be turned into rubber

the EE is not some sort of thought based thing
 
i mean the EE is AOE based so theres a chance it can be turned into rubber

the EE is not some sort of thought based thing
It's literally a subset of Luffy's subjective reality and toon force. He turns things into rubber.
It’s an aura show him turning an aura into rubber and negating EE effects.

Else you are assuming he did without a feat or a single instance which would be a NLF.

Meliodas can bypass Power modification.
 
It being able to ignore Power Modification is irrelevant as that's not Luffy's ability.
One more time, when did luffy null EE.

« Luffy rubberize and nulls » strictly works for what’s shown in verse also show him rubberizing an aura.

Else if we can make nlf’s i’ll argue about Meli erasing Luffy’s aura passively since it destroyed the darkness aura that envelopps the Commandments and the magical aura around the curses.
 
You avoid the answer.

Show him rubberizing auras and nullifying EE effects.
It's you that has to prove that Luffy's Subjective Reality Manipulation and Toon Force would be limited to Meliodas' aura since it has worked on smaller things than that.
 
It's you that has to prove that Luffy's Subjective Reality Manipulation and Toon Force would be limited to Meliodas' aura since it has worked on smaller things than that.
That’s a shifting the bop fallacy, the question is « do you have any showings of Luffy doing so » if not it’s all based on assumptions and an NLF you know very well that we base ourselves on showings.

Nature ≠ size

Luffy didn’t rubberize Borsalino’s light blade and got hurt, he didn’t rubberize Kaido’s haki aura etc…

yes i didn’t
Damn but do we use TMF before or after he destroyed his commandments ?
 
That’s a shifting the bop fallacy, the question is « do you have any showings of Luffy doing so » if not it’s all based on assumptions and an NLF you know very well that we base ourselves on showings.
You have it flipped. It's a basic assumption that an ability that affects reality is not limited by something based in reality unless it has a specific resistance or reason (such as being beyond Marco-Quantum). Being an aura is not a valid reason. I do not have to prove that Luffy's transmutation can work on it. You have to prove that Meliodas' ability is beyond the scope of Subjective Reality Manipulation.
 
Hey Kachon how long would you last against a bloodlusted Gear 5 Luffy? You have guaranteed survival (body is indestructible but still feel pain), earn 100k USD every 10 seconds you stay in the fight, and you can't fall unconscious from the pain. You resist Conqueror's Haki for the purpose of not getting instantly stunned but that's it.
 
Hey Kachon how long would you last against a bloodlusted Gear 5 Luffy? You have guaranteed survival (body is indestructible but still feel pain), earn 100k USD every 10 seconds you stay in the fight, and you can't fall unconscious from the pain. You resist Conqueror's Haki for the purpose of not getting instantly stunned but that's it.
Me when I get turned into a frisbee and thrown into the Sun
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You have it flipped. It's a basic assumption that an ability that affects reality is not limited by something based in reality unless it has a specific resistance or reason (such as being beyond Marco-Quantum). Being an aura is not a valid reason. I do not have to prove that Luffy's transmutation can work on it. You have to prove that Meliodas' ability is beyond the scope of Subjective Reality Manipulation.
Arthur can affect reality but is strictly limited to showings, you have to prove that the scope of Luffy’s ability extends to EE, auras etc… else it’s restricted to showings

Else Luffy can null anything thrown at him without any actual feat.
 
Arthur can affect reality but is strictly limited to showings, you have to prove that the scope of Luffy’s ability extends to EE, auras etc… else it’s restricted to showings
Arthur is not part of this match so mentioning him does nothing to aid your stance.
 
Damn but do we use TMF before or after he destroyed his commandments ?
the former

Also, for the people arguing against meliodas wincons; i need to know who you’re voting for.
 
Arthur is not part of this match so mentioning him does nothing to aid your stance.
Idc about if he is part of the match, it’s an exemple on why reality related powers need showings too.

the former
Selflessness insta erase Luffy’s memories emotions and sense of self.

Btw this Meliodas kinda one shots Luffy with any AOE no need for EE
 
That's still a projectile. My point remains.
It’s an aura.

So do you have actual showings or you base yourself on assumptions and NLF’s ?

Let the people vote it’s getting circular.

Meliodas scales to 300 zt physically a one shot gap higher with Lostvayne 3 yt with enchantments.
EE aura that Luffy never shown to be able to ruberize/null
Selflessness that base itself on will/desire to rob people of their sense of self which is an insta win.
3 layers of deconstruction with darkness attacks.


Here is Luffy not being able to change Kizaru’s nature or the effects of his power taking damage etc...
 
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It’s an aura.

So do you have actual showings or you base yourself on assumptions and NLF’s ?
Showings of Luffy's transmutation? It's on his profile.
Here is Luffy not being able to change Kizaru’s nature or the effects of his power taking damage etc...
You literally sent a page of Luffy doing what you said he couldn't. If he didn't, he would have gotten shot through the face. He literally ate the laser beam.
 
Showings of Luffy's transmutation? It's on his profile.
You keep dodging the point

You literally sent a page of Luffy doing what you said he couldn't. If he didn't, he would have gotten shot through the face. He literally ate the laser beam.
Ok so that’s him not being able to nullify Kizaru turning into photons not being able to null his blade and not nullifying the nature of his power.

Rubberizing his light didn’t change it’s nature.

Luffy gets EE’d
 
For you to turn EE to rubber you have to have feats or showings of IT. Subjective reality is heavily dependant on feats, this is some serious nlf that he'd rubberize EE.

Also there's no speed gap, isn't speed equalised? The ap increase didn't really change much. Mel primary wincons was erasing him which he still does
 
For you to turn EE to rubber you have to have feats or showings of IT. Subjective reality is heavily dependant on feats, this is some serious nlf that he'd rubberize EE.
Yeah
Also there's no speed gap, isn't speed equalised? The ap increase didn't really change much. Mel primary wincons was erasing him which he still does
In fact Mel massively outscales OP stated he can use TMF (300 zt and 3 yt with enchantments) before he erased the commandments. (Which means he can insta apply selflessness and win)

Though even without the AP gap Meli takes it as Luffy has no way to deal with EE.
 
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